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  • matulo
    Confirmed User
    • Dec 2002
    • 116

    #1

    What I'm doing wrong, help please

    Hi, I've jumped into adult biz with both feet and started a payste from a scratch. I think, our webdesign is nice. I made some galleries, posted to tgps, had more than 2000 visitors in 1-2 days, but no sign-up yet. Please can you recommend me what do improve or tell me what I'm doing wrong ?

    Here is the site: www.bizarre-amateurs.com
    I don't give a shit.
  • mrthumbs
    salad tossing sig guy
    • Apr 2002
    • 11702

    #2
    basicly: wipe your mind and visit your site:

    do you see ANYTHING that motivates you to pull your creditcard?

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    • greentea
      Confirmed User
      • Mar 2002
      • 6580

      #3
      Dump another 25K-50K + of traffic at, then come back and post.

      These 2K hits were is it from tgps?
      blunts

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      • greentea
        Confirmed User
        • Mar 2002
        • 6580

        #4
        These girls dont look to amateurish, it dont fit..

        just make it a bizarre site, i personally would not join this site.
        blunts

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        • matulo
          Confirmed User
          • Dec 2002
          • 116

          #5
          ok, so what to improve or change ?

          matulo
          I don't give a shit.

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          • MonkeyMan
            So Fucking Banned
            • Dec 2002
            • 1026

            #6
            Maybe you designed it on a lower res machine...but everything seems a bit tiny to me and nothing really eye catching, And theres nothing bizzare about the amatures from what I can see.... besides the bananna.

            Im new too and never ran a paysite.... but thats my take on it.

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            • Plugger
              Confirmed User
              • Jul 2001
              • 592

              #7
              You just have to keep plugging away at it, why do you think they call me Plugger?

              It is because in the face of adversity, I just keep plugging away . . . or maybe it's that anal thing; I forget . . .

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              • Zebra
                Banned from Kimmy's couch
                • Oct 2001
                • 5091

                #8
                Run away, don't walk, and never look back at the adult biz again.
                Old School

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                • [Labret]
                  Registered User
                  • May 2001
                  • 10945

                  #9
                  I am the only person on here who is going to tell you the truth.

                  Leave. There is no money in straight amateur tgp gallery posting. Unless you are happy making beer money.

                  You fucked up, suck it up and move along. You believed the hype. Its ok, lots of these idiots bought into it.

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                  • Lethal
                    Confirmed User
                    • Jan 2003
                    • 494

                    #10
                    Your site is just shit. You obviously have a poor command of English and your site violates all the laws of the conversion process. It has no direction, no flow, and at no point do you give the surfer a decent reason to want to buy. I hope you didn't pay money for it. That pic of the chick with the leek is pretty funny though.

                    I would suggest quitting, or maybe suicide.

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                    • Forkbeard
                      Confirmed User
                      • Feb 2002
                      • 2236

                      #11
                      It's pretty dull looking -- the colors aren't very bright or eyecatching. It more like a financial services site than a porn site.

                      Also, there's really nothing bizarre visible except that one girl with the leeks. And, um, that's been done, and the sickpuppy.com girls are a lot cuter than yours.

                      Bigger, brighter, tour pictures that show the surfer what he's getting. Text promises alone won't make the sale.

                      That's all from a porn consumer perspective; I don't own a paysite.
                      Offering sponsored blog posts and custom writing services.

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                      • p1mpdogg
                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                        • Nov 2002
                        • 16714

                        #12
                        Originally posted by [Labret]
                        I am the only person on here who is going to tell you the truth.

                        Leave. There is no money in straight amateur tgp gallery posting. Unless you are happy making beer money.

                        You fucked up, suck it up and move along. You believed the hype. Its ok, lots of these idiots bought into it.
                        lol
                        A fast fortune is easy to earn! Just go with a winner!

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                        • ControlThy
                          Confirmed User
                          • May 2002
                          • 1909

                          #13
                          You should never start in the adult online business with a paysite unless you have $ and know what to do.




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                          • SpaceAce
                            Confirmed User
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 6493

                            #14
                            The design starts out nice but gets uglier and uglier as you go through the tour. You have thumbnails of all different sizes just thrown in all over the place and most of the thumbnails are way too small. You should try to make the thumbs a more uniform size or at least arrange them nicely around the text instead of just have text and thumbs jumbled together.

                            Also, you can't click on anything. You have all these model headshots and stuff, but they are not interactive. That was bugging the shit out of me. It's like you don't want me to be able to click on things. I have to run my mouse over everything because you use all these graphical links with no underlines and the thumbs have borders on them that make them look clickable, but they aren't. You should be able to click on a model's head and get a page about her that would link to a signup form.

                            I don't like the color scheme, but that may just be me. That orange-on-black always looks like a downer to me and I associate it with people's homepages and flash-heavy commercial sites.

                            Edit: One other thing, In Linux I have my monitor in 1024x768 and a lot of the text was really small and nearly unreadable on my 19" monitor. In Windows I run in 1600x1200. I'll bet it would be completely illegible at that resolution (not that a lot of surfers use 1600x1200, but plenty use 1024).

                            SpaceAce
                            Last edited by SpaceAce; 01-03-2003, 02:00 AM.

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                            • RedShoe
                              赤い靴 call me 202-456-1111
                              • Feb 2001
                              • 14831

                              #15
                              Originally posted by [Labret]
                              I am the only person on here who is going to tell you the truth.

                              Leave. There is no money in straight amateur tgp gallery posting. Unless you are happy making beer money.

                              You fucked up, suck it up and move along. You believed the hype. Its ok, lots of these idiots bought into it.
                              BWAHAHAHA. I seriously think Labret is my alter ego. He posts what I often think. Except for all that racial stuff, oh and the stuff about the killings, and the guns, and the tattoos, other than that, we're identical. Also, he posts pics of himself, I do not.

                              I'm really not very pleasant on the eyes.

                              SPECIALTY COSTUMES • PROPS • FX
                              Superheroes • Monsters • Robots
                              PM for details


                              For any manufacturing needs. Adult or otherwise.

                              aka BonsHigh on Insta
                              Bonsai weed plants


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                              • Lethal
                                Confirmed User
                                • Jan 2003
                                • 494

                                #16
                                You sound like you want to date him.

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                                • RedShoe
                                  赤い靴 call me 202-456-1111
                                  • Feb 2001
                                  • 14831

                                  #17
                                  Pay me $1,250 US dollars, and exclusive rights to the content to use as I see fit.

                                  In turn, I'll knock out a 2 page tour, and a sign up page. You will in turn, send me all your gay exit traffic. Deal? I'll create a page that as an exit offers gay, but I get that traffic. Smaller details will be worked out later.


                                  You're design doesn't look very amateurish. It looks like you are pro amateurs. Dumb it down... A LOT. Take out all those single phrase descriptions, "I like bananas". Well, I like cashews, so what.

                                  You're site is neither bizarre, nor very amateurish. The colors are too dark (in tone). More content up front... or at least bigger thumbs. Tell them to join, or these girls will starve and die. Sell them. Never think your shit is so good it will just magically sell itself.

                                  oh, and rework your math in your sig. "240% satisfaction?" I think 100% is fine, no need to ever go more than 100%.

                                  One thousand two hundred and fifty dollars. Paypal only. You get a better design, and in exchange for going so low on price, I get your gay exit traffic, from a console, and or a link on the tour.

                                  This offer stands only while I'm still in a good mood.

                                  SPECIALTY COSTUMES • PROPS • FX
                                  Superheroes • Monsters • Robots
                                  PM for details


                                  For any manufacturing needs. Adult or otherwise.

                                  aka BonsHigh on Insta
                                  Bonsai weed plants


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                                  • RedShoe
                                    赤い靴 call me 202-456-1111
                                    • Feb 2001
                                    • 14831

                                    #18
                                    oh.. and you might want to remove your produced by "XXXMedia"

                                    I actually work for "TripleXMedia" that might not look too good if anyone else sees it up there.

                                    SPECIALTY COSTUMES • PROPS • FX
                                    Superheroes • Monsters • Robots
                                    PM for details


                                    For any manufacturing needs. Adult or otherwise.

                                    aka BonsHigh on Insta
                                    Bonsai weed plants


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                                    • Tipsy
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Jul 2001
                                      • 6989

                                      #19
                                      It's more or less been said - simply shut it down. Seriously. Jumping straight in with a paysite is just plain daft. You know nothing about the business, traffic generation, how to convert.... the list goes on.

                                      Start with the basics first and IF you manage to make money with them then maybe try it. That's a huge IF though.
                                      Ignorance is never bliss.

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                                      • sonomasnap
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Oct 2002
                                        • 410

                                        #20
                                        must concur with everyone and also say that cross niche promotion is tuff. Either go amateur or bizarre. If you go bizarre then make it fucking bizarre. If you go amateur then make it amateur. Finally, get someone to write your copy who actually speaks english.

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                                        • Gary
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Aug 2001
                                          • 6110

                                          #21
                                          spam

                                          Up to 35$ per join...!

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                                          • Zayne E.
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Apr 2002
                                            • 1383

                                            #22
                                            Loads slow as shit and doesn't look like an amateur site at all.

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                                            • Jak
                                              So Fucking Banned
                                              • Apr 2002
                                              • 1143

                                              #23
                                              "These girls are driving wild us, and will be driving wild you."

                                              You have no chance to survive make your time.


                                              Jak

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                                              • McAttack
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Jul 2002
                                                • 625

                                                #24
                                                Well, I won't tell you to get out of the biz. I'll give you some honest feedback.

                                                - First of all 2000 uniques is NOTHING. It's peanuts.

                                                - Secondly, the layout is very bad in my opinion. Right From the start, your age verification page shows stuff that kids can't see. You're asking to leave if you're not an adult, when you're showing a girl with some vegetable inside her. Strip clubs card you at the entrance, not when you're next to the stage. So you should have an age verification page before this, and keep it CLEAN. Put pictures, but nothing like nipples or snatch shots.

                                                - It took me a while to find the Tour button. Off the main page, a user should be able to find the JOIN and TOUR buttons fast. You don't have a join button off the main page, only through the end of the tour. Avoid putting important stuff like that at the bottom of the page. Should be in the middle, larger than the rest and it should catch the eye. With these colors, use a large yellow font.

                                                - The tour is bad. Can't click on anything, I can't see if you're giving me webcam shots or real pics. The pictures aren't enticing. And if you would entice me, I can't click join. I have to go through the rest of the tour.

                                                A tour should work very simply. Here's a quick example of it.
                                                Tour page 1
                                                Look at this feature. I give you tons of videos. Do you want to join or continue tour?
                                                Tour page 2
                                                I bring you pictures of crazy chicks with vegetables, brooms, and handcuffs. Do you want to join or continue tour?
                                                Tour page 3
                                                I bring you live cams so you can chat with these crazy girls and ask them to perform whateer you want them to.
                                                Join or continue?
                                                Tour 4
                                                I give you all that and here's some pictures of some of the girls we have inside.
                                                JOIN NOW.

                                                This way it's not confusing. Every page serves one purpose and then if the guy wants to join, he clicks in right away. If page 1 did the job, then don't make him click through 3 more pages to join, you remove the spontaneous reaction at that point.

                                                I'd say it needs a complete redesign, change the word Bizarre to wild or crazy. Dirty girls, they're not "bizarre". Bizarre is vacuum pumps, and the real freaky stuff.

                                                Also, have someone translate what you want to say. If you want to make an english site, make sure it's proper english.

                                                Good luck man and if you got more Q's, ask me

                                                You know Teen Kelly converts like crazy.

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