newb question:

[dillinja666]

ive seen all the anti zongo threads on here, and ive done a lot of searching, but i cant find anything that says how/why zongo rips you off. can someone please explain it to me? thanks!

[madawgz]

they steal sales you should be getting...

[starpimps]

they steal sales you should be getting...

like he said
its spyware that installs on the users system and steals your sales

[martinsc]

fuck zango.
that's all i have to say.

[dillinja666]

how does it steal your sales, it takes your redirect or something off? is that the way they designed it?

[free4porn]

steal sales and alot of them

[EBORG9]

Dude, I've been here a little while, and I don't get it either, but I never ask because it seems to be very touchy.

[en21]

they force people to go to the sponsor site without their consent...

[marko13]

zango steals your sales ... and those sales you should get it....

[dillinja666]

i get that it steals your sales, but how? why? does anyone actually know how this program works?

[Barefootsies]

[MyNameIsNobody]

It's spelled "zango"

Not zongo

[EBORG9]

they force people to go to the sponsor site without their consent...

I get it now. We had some Escort Services doing that for a while out here, stealing phone calls from competitors, and redirecting them.
It was a Federal Crime.
Something about Interstate Wire Fraud.

Isn't this?

[dillinja666]

It's spelled "zango"

Not zongo

close enough, i call it crap

[Barefootsies]

I get it now. We had some Escort Services doing that for a while out here, stealing phone calls from competitors, and redirecting them.
It was a Federal Crime.
Something about Interstate Wire Fraud.

Isn't this?

Right. But that deals with the 'air waves' which in turn falls to the F.C.C. jurisdiction.

There is no such precedent on the net that I am aware of sire.

[LiveDose]

I thought it was the name of a dance. What's up?

[dillinja666]

Right. But that deals with the 'air waves' which in turn falls to the F.C.C. jurisdiction.

There is no such precedent on the net that I am aware of sire.

do you think if enough people bitched about them that the goverment would eventually get something like the FCC for the net going?

[Barefootsies]

do you think if enough people bitched about them that the goverment would eventually get something like the FCC for the net going?

That my friend... is a slippery slope.

You should almost NEVER want the government in ANY THING.

[dillinja666]

kinda what i figured, but if you are not doing anything wrong you in theroy should have nothing to worry about...in theroy

[EBORG9]

Right. But that deals with the 'air waves' which in turn falls to the F.C.C. jurisdiction.

There is no such precedent on the net that I am aware of sire.

Well the Escort case fell under Interstate Wire Fraud, they were actually hacking , and redirecting the land line calls.
Isn't the net under the same Wire Fraud guidlines?

[EBORG9]

WIRE FRAUD - 18 USC 1343, makes it a Federal crime or offense for anyone to use interstate wire communications facilities in carrying out a scheme to defraud.

A person can be found guilty of that offense only if all of the following facts are proved beyond a reasonable doubt:

First: That the person knowingly and willfully devised a scheme to defraud, or for obtaining money or property by means of false pretenses, representations or promises; and

Second: That the person knowingly transmitted or caused to be transmitted by wire in interstate commerce some sound for the purpose of executing the scheme to defraud.

It is not necessary that the Government prove all of the details concerning the precise nature and purpose of the scheme; or that the material transmitted by wire was itself false or fraudulent; or that the alleged scheme actually succeeded in defrauding anyone; or that the use of interstate wire communications facilities was intended as the specific or exclusive means of accomplishing the alleged fraud.

What must be proved is that the person knowingly and willfully devised or intended to devise a scheme to defraud; and that the use of the interstate wire communications facilities was closely related to the scheme because the person either wired something or caused it to be wired in interstate commerce in an attempt to execute or carry out the scheme.

To "cause" interstate wire facilities to be used is to do an act with knowledge that the use of the wires will follow in the ordinary course of business or where such use can reasonably be foreseen.

Each separate use of the interstate wire facilities in furtherance of a scheme to defraud constitutes a separate offense.
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That is what is going on, right?
To cause interstate wire facilities......