Is replacing someones code with yours through spyware illegal?

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  • Dirty F
    Too lazy to set a custom title
    • Jul 2001
    • 59204

    #1

    Is replacing someones code with yours through spyware illegal?

    Just wondering.
  • jimthefiend
    So Fucking Banned
    • Oct 2003
    • 18889

    #2
    Prolly. I would only do it to Will.

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    • fallenmuffin
      Confirmed User
      • Nov 2005
      • 8170

      #3
      Unmoral but I don't think it's illegal. It's not spam so it doesn't fall under that and it doesn't collect any data or transmit data so it doesn't follow under identity theft (i.e. it's not harvesting your cc info). So iuno but I would lean towards no...

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      • SmokeyTheBear
        ►SouthOfHeaven
        • Jun 2004
        • 28609

        #4
        yes . the legal term is "Trespass to chattels"

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trespass_to_chattels
        hatisblack at yahoo.com

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        • SmokeyTheBear
          ►SouthOfHeaven
          • Jun 2004
          • 28609

          #5
          a) Lack of consent
          A vendor can attempt to dispute a trespass claim on the grounds that the user consented to the terms of the contract. Even if consent was given for certain access, a user may still have a valid trespass to chattels complaint if the vendor has exceeded the contractual terms, if the contract is found to misrepresent the actual functioning of the product, or if the consent has been withdrawn. A vendor can be held liable for “any use exceeding the consent” given.” (Restatement (Second) of Torts § 256)

          b) Actual harm
          The precise criteria for ascertaining actual harm varies among states, in California, for instance, an electronic message can be deemed a trespass where the message interferes with the target computer’s operation, as long as a plaintiff can demonstrate either actual hardware damage or actual impaired functioning (see: Intel v. Hamidi, 30 Cal.4th 1342 (2003)). But the general concept of requiring impaired computer functioning has been adopted consistently and in showing impaired computer functioning, courts have usually emphasized system unavailability.

          c) Intentionality
          In clarifying the meaning of intentionality in the context of a trespass to chattels claim, § 217 of the Restatement (Second) of Torts states that “intention is present when an act is done for the purpose of using or otherwise intermeddling with a chattel or with knowledge that such an intermeddling will, to a substantial certainty, result from the act,” and that, furthermore, “[i]t is not necessary that the actor should know or have reason to know that such intermeddling is a violation of the possessory rights of another.”


          Damages from a trespass claim are limited to the actual harm sustained by the plaintiff (which can include economic loss consequent on the trespass - e.g. loss of profit on a damaged chattel). In cases of dispossession, the plaintiff is always entitled to damages if they can prove the dispossession occurred, even if no quantifiable harm can be proven.
          hatisblack at yahoo.com

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          • mortenb
            Confirmed User
            • Jul 2004
            • 2203

            #6
            Sorry, but what does "chattel" mean?

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            • fallenmuffin
              Confirmed User
              • Nov 2005
              • 8170

              #7
              Originally posted by mortenb
              Sorry, but what does "chattel" mean?
              Personal property is a type of property. In the common law systems personal property may also be called chattels.

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              • mortenb
                Confirmed User
                • Jul 2004
                • 2203

                #8
                Originally posted by fallenmuffin
                Personal property is a type of property. In the common law systems personal property may also be called chattels.
                Thank you

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                • Deej
                  I make pixels work
                  • Jun 2005
                  • 24386

                  #9
                  SmokeyTheBear = GFYCIA

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                  • CaptainHowdy
                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                    • Dec 2004
                    • 94735

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Deej
                    SmokeyTheBear = GFYCIA
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                    • mike217
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                      • Jul 2006
                      • 448

                      #11
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                      • Missie
                        Confirmed User
                        • Oct 2006
                        • 372

                        #12
                        Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
                        a) Lack of consent
                        A vendor can attempt to dispute a trespass claim on the grounds that the user consented to the terms of the contract. Even if consent was given for certain access, a user may still have a valid trespass to chattels complaint if the vendor has exceeded the contractual terms, if the contract is found to misrepresent the actual functioning of the product, or if the consent has been withdrawn. A vendor can be held liable for ?any use exceeding the consent? given.? (Restatement (Second) of Torts § 256)

                        b) Actual harm
                        The precise criteria for ascertaining actual harm varies among states, in California, for instance, an electronic message can be deemed a trespass where the message interferes with the target computer?s operation, as long as a plaintiff can demonstrate either actual hardware damage or actual impaired functioning (see: Intel v. Hamidi, 30 Cal.4th 1342 (2003)). But the general concept of requiring impaired computer functioning has been adopted consistently and in showing impaired computer functioning, courts have usually emphasized system unavailability.

                        c) Intentionality
                        In clarifying the meaning of intentionality in the context of a trespass to chattels claim, § 217 of the Restatement (Second) of Torts states that ?intention is present when an act is done for the purpose of using or otherwise intermeddling with a chattel or with knowledge that such an intermeddling will, to a substantial certainty, result from the act,? and that, furthermore, ?[i]t is not necessary that the actor should know or have reason to know that such intermeddling is a violation of the possessory rights of another.?


                        Damages from a trespass claim are limited to the actual harm sustained by the plaintiff (which can include economic loss consequent on the trespass - e.g. loss of profit on a damaged chattel). In cases of dispossession, the plaintiff is always entitled to damages if they can prove the dispossession occurred, even if no quantifiable harm can be proven.
                        GREAT POST! Wonderful information here! Gonna have to print a few TOS/screenshots and ask for legal opinion on this. I especially like the bold parts.

                        Missie
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