Will Senator Lott

[theking]

Will Senator Lott survive the fallout from putting his foot in his mouth? Should he be allowed to survive?

[multisexsite]

I hope not, he's bringing Mississippi a lot of money since he's been at the job so long. (Im from Mississippi)

[theking]

Originally posted by multisexsite
I hope not, he's bringing Mississippi a lot of money since he's been at the job so long. (Im from Mississippi)

He is bringing a lot of money to your state and you don't want him to survive???

[Mr.Fiction]

At this point I think he will still be the leader.

I think Bush wants to find a balance between keeping the racists in his party happy as well as the anti-racists and minorities. The far right wing of the Republican Party, which Bush knows is overrun with racists, is a big voting block, so it should be interesting to see how he sorts this all out.

[Mishi]

One of Canada's Prime Minister's aides calls Bush a moron, and subsequently resigns in the wake of that comment.

If Lott doesn't step down, shame on America.

Full disclosure: Personally, I do believe Bush is a moron, so my comments are not entirely objective.

[DTK]

nevermind

[Backov]

He definitely should.

He openly admitted he supported segregation not once, not twice, but at least three times. Most recently at the speech in question.. After Strom ran for president he said it again, and in his fraternity he was one of the most active people trying to keep blacks out of ALL the chapters.

He's a racist, how more obvious does it have to be?

Now, that doesn't mean he shouldn't be allowed to be a politician, but I'm sure all republocrats aren't all that comfortable admitting that a lot of their senators and congressman are old white wannabe Klan members. (Like Lott)

Cheers,
Backov

[sextoyking]

Hi,

Of course I want lott to resign. but if he doesn't think about it guys and gals.

Us Dems sure have some good press and Ammo, come 2004 election cycle )

peace


todd

[Simon-interaid]

He is a racist bastard.

He needs to go. Just looking at him you can tell the guy is racist.


He can kiss ass all he wants, he should resign.

[DemonWolfe]

Originally posted by sextoyking
Hi,

Of course I want lott to resign. but if he doesn't think about it guys and gals.

Us Dems sure have some good press and Ammo, come 2004 election cycle )

peace


todd

Let's face the facts, when a Democrat does something wrong, the republicans are on him like stink on shit for years to come. Even after he is no longer in office.

When a republican does something wrong, Democrats are quick to forgive and then they retract part of their forgiveness, but they lack the balls to go in for the kill.

Republicans would have already formed an entire commitee to investigate the allegations of racism by now. They'd spend billions of our tax dollars in an attempt to destory the opositions leader.

[jimmyf]

Lott is history as Speaker... Also that card caring KKK member Senator Bird should be run out of fucking town. You want racist better be checking out * MOST * of the Demo's from the south.

[Gutterboy]

Originally posted by theking
Will Senator Lott survive the fallout from putting his foot in his mouth? Should he be allowed to survive?

Definitely. I think he should be made majority leader and allowed as much time in the public eye as possible. I wish the Republicans would aclknowledge their strongest supporters.. religious kooks, racists, and ignorant hicks.. in public more often.

Best way to assure they get their asses kicked by the Demo's in '04

[[Labret]]

Originally posted by Gutterboy

I wish the Republicans would aclknowledge their strongest supporters.. religious kooks, racists, and ignorant hicks.. in public more often.

hehe

[[Labret]]

He has the NAACP on his ass now. Kweisi Mfume has called for him to step down. They are not gonna let up. They never do. He is a pariah to the republicans now. They have to scuttle him.

[theking]

I am ambivilant. Senator Lott is actually a moderate Republican and since the Republicans have control of the Senate I would prefer a moderate to an ultra conservative to have control of the Senate agenda. I do not think that he will survive the storm. Because he is a moderate Republican the ultra conservative Republicans would like to see him smacked down and the President in a speech certainly did not support him.

[Sarah_Jayne]

He should go. Waiting ages to say sorry just shows to me how little he means it. Such bad PR as well..the story has been creeping up the news agenda here in the UK as well. At first they didn't care all that much but the longer it goes on the more it is getting reported - particuarly when Bush got involved. It is hard to try to tell folks over here that the US isn't as sterotypical racist as they think when the big story in the news is about a racist at the top of gov't.

Mind you the one amussing thing from it all is listening to all the British news readers trying to pronounce Strom's name.

[Captain Canada]

I dont agree with his views but I dont think he should have to go.

His home town newspaper said that he is a racist and that everyone knows it, so if the people know it and still vote for hime - so be it. That is America isn't it, the right to have your opinions and to express them. It might not be the smartest move a politician can take but he was elected with his views apparently well known.

[Paul Markham]

If the people of his state voted for him knowing he is a racist then he should stay. That is the strength of a democracy.

If he incites racial violence then he should go to jail.

You cannot legislate how people should think and by stopping free speech you encourage the bigot.

Educate, Educate, Educate, Educate, Educate, Educate, Educate, Educate, Educate is the key to getting rid of the bigots.

[playa]

Lott has no balls i am pretty surpised he ever became a leader,

if anyone knows segragation only ended like around 30 years ago
so most of the Political leaders are from that generation,

though i came to the conclusion that most politicians don't really care about their personal position in politics rather they'll do whatever the voting people wants them to do, So its possible he isn't truely a racist and just doing what would keep him in office.
but growing up as a white guy Mississippi during civil rights, i highly doubt it

and if you ever been to Mississippi or know people they'll tell you its not the best place to live if your a minority.

[Sarah_Jayne]

Pretending you are a racist to pander to racists for purpose of advancing your career doesn't rate very highly on my moral scale - and that's comming from a pornographer.

[playa]

Originally posted by sarah_webinc
Pretending you are a racist to pander to racists for purpose of advancing your career doesn't rate very highly on my moral scale - and that's comming from a pornographer.

Well this is how Politicians stay in office,
Politicians will always side to the highest bidder

If company A says i'll give you 1 million dollars
so you can say company B is doing something
illegal
or vice versa-
Politician says give me 1 million dollars
or we'll say your doing something illegal


hence why Microsoft gets in court,, Bill Gates never
took any political stands

[ColKurtz]

He should NOT resign. That would be ridiculous.

Democrats are such hypocrites. Clinton, Gore, and many other democrats have been in all kinds of scandals, and they find a way to put a postive spin it. But then a republican says something not bad at all, and hes suppose to resign?

[[Labret]]

Originally posted by ColKurtz
He should NOT resign. That would be ridiculous.

Democrats are such hypocrites. Clinton, Gore, and many other democrats have been in all kinds of scandals, and they find a way to put a postive spin it. But then a republican says something not bad at all, and hes suppose to resign?

There is a difference between getting a blowjob and saying the country would be in a better place if people would have backed a pro segregation candidate back in the day (which may or may not be true, but thats besides the point). That and he voted in college to keep blacks out of his fraternity.

He is fucked.

[ColKurtz]

He did much more than just get a blowjob. Your spinning.

One off hand comment, where he was just trying to make some old fart about to die feel good about himself, and democrats call for him to resign. Democrats do everything under the sun, and would never think about resigning.

Its all just political bullshit, posturing for the next election. Doing whatever they can to paint conservatives as evil.

Nothing will change. Minorities, bleeding hearts, and far left will vote democrat. White middle and upper class will vote republican.

[Pleasurepays]

Originally posted by [Labret]


There is a difference between getting a blowjob and saying you should have backed a pro segregation candidate back in the day. That and he voted in college to keep blacks out of his fraternity.
He is fucked.

hmm.... [Labret]

FIRST, i dont support anything LOTT did or said.

however, "getting a blowjob"? You think that lying to a grand jury and a court of law as both the President of the United States and Attorney is better or for some reason is more forgivable?

since you seem to be really uninformed on the issues you comment on, let me refresh your memory on some facts.

1. President Clinton lied under oath in his civil case when he denied a sexual affair, a sexual relationship, or sexual relations with Monica Lewinsky.

2. President Clinton lied under oath to the grand jury about his sexual relationship with Ms. Lewinsky.

3. In his civil deposition, to support his false statement about the sexual relationship, President Clinton also lied under oath about being alone with Ms. Lewinsky and about the many gifts exchanged between Ms. Lewinsky and him.

4. President Clinton lied under oath in his civil deposition about his
discussions with Ms. Lewinsky concerning her involvement in the Jones case.

5. During the Jones case, the President obstructed justice and had an understanding with Ms. Lewinsky to jointly conceal the truth about their relationship by concealing gifts subpoenaed by Ms. Jones's attorneys.

6. During the Jones case, the President obstructed justice and had an understanding with Ms. Lewinsky to jointly conceal the truth of their relationship from the judicial process by a scheme that included the following means:

(i) Both the President and Ms. Lewinsky understood that they would lie under oath in the Jones case about their sexual relationship;

(ii) the President suggested to Ms. Lewinsky that she prepare an affidavit that, for the President's purposes, would memorialize her testimony under oath and could be used to prevent questioning of both of them about their relationship;

(iii) Ms. Lewinsky signed and filed the false affidavit;

(iv) the President used Ms. Lewinsky's false affidavit at his deposition in an attempt to head off questions about Ms. Lewinsky; and

(v) when that failed, the President lied under oath at his civil deposition about the relationship with Ms. Lewinsky.

7. President Clinton endeavored to obstruct justice by helping Ms. Lewinsky obtain a job in New York at a time when she would have been a witness harmful to him were she to tell the truth in the Jones case.

8. President Clinton lied under oath in his civil deposition about his
discussions with Vernon Jordan concerning Ms. Lewinsky's involvement in the Jones case.

9. The President improperly tampered with a potential witness by attempting to corruptly influence the testimony of his personal secretary, Betty Currie, in the days after his civil deposition.

10. President Clinton endeavored to obstruct justice during the grand jury investigation by refusing to testify for seven months and lying to senior White House aides with knowledge that they would relay the President's false statements to the grand jury -- and did thereby deceive, obstruct, and impede the grand jury.

11. President Clinton abused his constitutional authority by;

(i) lying to the public and the Congress in January 1998 about his relationship with Ms. Lewinsky;

(ii) promising at that time to cooperate fully with the grand jury investigation;

(iii) later refusing six invitations to testify voluntarily to the grand jury;

(iv) invoking Executive Privilege;

(v) lying to the grand jury in August 1998; and

(vi) lying again to the public and Congress on August 17, 1998 -- all as part of an effort to hinder, impede, and deflect possible inquiry by the Congress of the United States.

[playa]

Originally posted by Pleasurepays


hmm.... [Labret]

FIRST, i dont support anything LOTT did or said.

however, "getting a blowjob"? You think that lying to a grand jury and a court of law as both the President of the United States and Attorney is better or for some reason is more forgivable?

since you seem to be really uninformed on the issues you comment on, let me refresh your memory on some facts.

....................

well the point is it was all about the blowjob,
every married man will deny it if he thinks he can get away with it

[Pleasurepays]

Originally posted by playa

well the point is it was all about the blowjob,
every married man will deny it if he thinks he can get away with it

i dont remember anyone being charged with "getting a blowjob" or that "getting a blowjob" is a criminal offense.

The President of the United States lied, both in a court of law and to a Grand Jury. that was the issue of "the blow job". Otherwise, no one probably would have cared. well, except for his wife, Mr Clinton.

I dont think Lott is a better specimen of humanity by far, however, there is a huge difference in legally expressing an unpopular opinion as a college kid in the 60's and lying to a court of law as an attorney and as the President of the United States.

[[Labret]]

Originally posted by ColKurtz


Its all just political bullshit, posturing for the next election. Doing whatever they can to paint conservatives as evil.

I agree 100%. Personally, I have no problem with segregationists in the government. There needs to be more diversity of opinion represented.

Even still, there are some republicans who are not too thrilled with his comments as well.

If it were a democrat that made the comment, the republicans would be riding his ass as well. Its fun just watching the posturing. Thats what I enjoy the most.

[rdunn404]

Originally posted by Pleasurepays


i dont remember anyone being charged with "getting a blowjob" or that "getting a blowjob" is a criminal offense.

The President of the United States lied, both in a court of law and to a Grand Jury. that was the issue of "the blow job". Otherwise, no one probably would have cared. well, except for his wife, Mr Clinton.

I dont think Lott is a better specimen of humanity by far, however, there is a huge difference in legally expressing an unpopular opinion as a college kid in the 60's and lying to a court of law as an attorney and as the President of the United States.

What the fuck did Monica Lewinsky have to do with a Whitewater investigation? NOTHING! They kept spending money and bumping around in the dark until they found anything on Clinton. Hey look taxpayers, I know we've spent lots of your money, and since we can't nail him on the real scandal, look we've got a 1000 page document detailing a blowjob and a cigar up the ass! Even better! Money well spent!!

[[Labret]]

He stuck it in her ass?

[rdunn404]

Originally posted by [Labret]
He stuck it in her ass?

Haha...nah it was her pussy....sorry for the wishful thinking.

[Mr.Fiction]

Pleasurepays - you know that almost everything you wrote were lies. The only thing they ever found on Clinton was that he got a blowjob and he didn't want his wife to find out. All the rest of that is right wing propaganda probably written by none other than Ken Starr.

You repeated a bunch of lies made up by right wingers. You blame Clinton for lying, then you lie and repeat lies. Do you see the irony?

Billl Clinton is an innocent virginal angel compared to Bush.

Look at all the money they spent going after Clinton and all they found out was that he got a blowjob and didn't want his wife to know he got a blowjob.

Cheney and Bush would be in jail today if they spent 1/10 the money going after them. But Democrats aren't quite corrupt enough to spend hundreds of millions of dollars in taxpayer money to try to go after Bush. They should, they could, but they don't.

It's always amusing to see how many people in the adult industry think a blowjob is a bad thing.

Think about that, people in the adult industry crying about a blowjob.

How can you not laugh at them?

[Honeyslut]

I think Lott should be replaced by a black man.

[playa]

the guy is spineless even the republicans want him out,
i guess thats what happens when you choose a former college cheerleader

[Pleasurepays]

Originally posted by Mr.Fiction
Pleasurepays - you know that almost everything you wrote were lies. The only thing they ever found on Clinton was that he got a blowjob and he didn't want his wife to find out. All the rest of that is right wing propaganda probably written by none other than Ken Starr.

You repeated a bunch of lies made up by right wingers. You blame Clinton for lying, then you lie and repeat lies. Do you see the irony?

Billl Clinton is an innocent virginal angel compared to Bush.

Look at all the money they spent going after Clinton and all they found out was that he got a blowjob and didn't want his wife to know he got a blowjob.

Cheney and Bush would be in jail today if they spent 1/10 the money going after them. But Democrats aren't quite corrupt enough to spend hundreds of millions of dollars in taxpayer money to try to go after Bush. They should, they could, but they don't.

It's always amusing to see how many people in the adult industry think a blowjob is a bad thing.

Think about that, people in the adult industry crying about a blowjob.

How can you not laugh at them?

wow. i am not blaming anyone for anything. just stating a fact. its not my idea, the investigation and Grand Jury were not mine either. i

he denied any sexual relationship with her. he denied it under sworn testimony in court. he denied it under oath to the Grand Jury. then when her dress showed up with HIS sperm on it, he admitted to it.

i am not sure how that qualifies as "propaganda"

i did not say one thing about Bush, much less anything good. i personally think that had 9/11 not happened, he would have been lynched long ago. but i am not sure what that has to do with Clinton lying in court under oath as the President of the United States.

[sextoyking]

Hi,

here is my take.

I am very pro clinton, it was indeed a pleasure to shake his hand 2 times when he was running in 92. I have a picture of him and al gore right above my head that signed by pres. clinton.

Did he lie about his affiar, yes. bill clinton had some character issues and personal problems that hurt him, and our party. but that doesn't take away from him what's due. he is one of the most gifted, smart, popular presidents of the 20th century.

He truly did want to change our country for the better, and help the poor and working men and women.

Remember guys, he wan't rich, and didn't get brought up wealthy at all. he was a rhodes scholar on his own.

I belive one day bill clinton will be back living in the white house or the VP house, as the first or 2nd man

Lott, fucked up plain and simple. if he doesn't step down, it will hurt them in 2004.

Did we have some assholes in my party too, sure.

I do love Sen. Byrd of WV, but I will never excuse what he did in his early days, kkk, etc. I am a jew, so it's even harder for me to like him I guess. but since then, he has always worked hard for his state (one of the poorest) and the poor.

[sextoyking]

Oh I forgot whatelse I was going to say.

ken star was on a mission controlled by the right side of the wall.

it was to kick the clintons in the face as much as he could.


yes he did lie, yes he did get impeached by the house.

they hated that a small gov. from AR, could kick the ass of Bush #1, and laugh in there face about it.

remember everyone, politics like most stuff is cyclical, bush #1 had high approval raitings after the war, what happ. to him??

Bush#2 might win in 2004, but it's not forsure.

[Pleasurepays]

Originally posted by sextoyking
Hi,

here is my take.

I am very pro clinton, it was indeed a pleasure to shake his hand 2 times when he was running in 92. I have a picture of him and al gore right above my head that signed by pres. clinton.

Did he lie about his affiar, yes. bill clinton had some character issues and personal problems that hurt him, and our party. but that doesn't take away from him what's due. he is one of the most gifted, smart, popular presidents of the 20th century.

He truly did want to change our country for the better, and help the poor and working men and women.

Remember guys, he wan't rich, and didn't get brought up wealthy at all. he was a rhodes scholar on his own.

I belive one day bill clinton will be back living in the white house or the VP house, as the first or 2nd man

Lott, fucked up plain and simple. if he doesn't step down, it will hurt them in 2004.

Did we have some assholes in my party too, sure.

I do love Sen. Byrd of WV, but I will never excuse what he did in his early days, kkk, etc. I am a jew, so it's even harder for me to like him I guess. but since then, he has always worked hard for his state (one of the poorest) and the poor.

thats really cool that you met Clinton Todd, i did not know that
there is no arguing that he had great leadership skills. The best person for President would be someone that would never seek a job like that.

i think that a great paradox of politics is that people want someone to make them feel good about themselves and their future as much as they want the truth and honesty. but they those things seldom go hand in hand. doing the popular thing is not always the same as the right thing and visa versa, so it is often a lose-lose situation for anyone in charge.

[ColKurtz]

"I think Lott should be replaced by a black man. "


The funny thing is this administration has higher ranking blacks than any democrat administration ever had.

But they are passed off as "house negroes" by the left mouthpieces. Damnd if you do, damnd if you dont.

I wouldnt be surprised at all if Condi Rice was president in 2008. She would get crossover vote from women, and blacks. Theres not as many hardcore racists as the left likes to think, and most conservatives would toe the party line. Would be very hard to beat her.

And certainly would not be beat by hillary. Only in a dream world. Most people hate that bitch and she would get hardly any crossover vote.

[sextoyking]

Col,

Study up on rice when she was a professor. She is pretty right wing my friend.

there is no way in hell she would ever win in 2008 or mabey never.

First off it's tought to win, if you have never been elected to a public office ever, 2nd off, except for bush SR. hard to win if you held a post that was related in some way to the cia or nation security advisor.

She's smart, that is forsure, but don't leave Sen. Clinton in the dust. in 2008 she will have had 1 term as sen from NY, and she is bright as hell.

Cheney sure won't win in 2008, that is forsure. probably won't even run. mabey someone new from the trilatteral commission

[playa]

well i got my money that Collin Powell will run 2008,
i know he'll might change his mine with some pressure
from the republicans

generals have made good presidents in the past

[[Labret]]

Colin Powell isnt black. That guy is whiter than I am.

[ColKurtz]

"Study up on rice when she was a professor. She is pretty right wing my friend. "


So? The conseratives will vote for her. As will more women and blacks than would normally vote republican. Seems pretty simple to me.

Youve called me racist before, and I would have no problem with her as president.

The american people are stupid. The only reason Bill Clinton was elected is because he went on mtv, and arsenio and was a "cool" guy. And the fact that Perot took a big chunk of the conservative vote.

I've talked to people from arkansas, and some of them hated him so much, they voted for him just to get him out of arkansas.


Hillary is an even worse candiate than Gore. Too much baggage, too many people that straight out hate them, or strongly distrust them.

[TDF]

Originally posted by Honeyslut
I think Lott should be replaced by a black man.

im perfect for the job. Women get one day off for periods and s-curls and jherri-curls are illegal in all fitty states

[Sarah_Jayne]

Clinton gave a speech a couple months ago at the UK Labour party convention and it was just amazing. I wish, he was still president - I really do. No, he wasn't perfect but atleast I felt like he had the mental capacity to understand even the basic concepts of gov't - both domestic and international.

I do love it how conservaties (and my father is one) can't hear something even mildly critical of one of their own without launching out about the so called liberal media and how 'atlest they aren't as bad as Clinton'.

He did wrong....about a blowjob. Lott does wrong about Racisim..if they cases have to be compared at all (and I don't see why they do) then I know which one looks worse to me.

[Greg Atherton]

Originally posted by sarah_webinc
Clinton gave a speech a couple months ago at the UK Labour party convention and it was just amazing. I wish, he was still president - I really do. No, he wasn't perfect but atleast I felt like he had the mental capacity to understand even the basic concepts of gov't - both domestic and international.

I do love it how conservaties (and my father is one) can't hear something even mildly critical of one of their own without launching out about the so called liberal media and how 'atlest they aren't as bad as Clinton'.

He did wrong....about a blowjob. Lott does wrong about Racisim..if they cases have to be compared at all (and I don't see why they do) then I know which one looks worse to me.

sarah, I don't say this often, but I agree 100% with you

[Sarah_Jayne]

It's good to know that someone does