Found another cheating ccbill program

[rowan]

No surprise really, they changed NATs (and billers) several months ago and by default fucked over webmasters with existing ccbill links. Disabling any future ccbill rebills was just an extra kick in the teeth.

That's assuming they were not forcibly terminated by ccbill, of course.

[studiocritic]

I thought we already played this game and determined that "zero" meant indefinite?

CCBill?

[Napolean]

I thought we already played this game and determined that "zero" meant indefinite?

CCBill?

correct

[studiocritic]

correct

so, fake drama

[justsexxx]

correct

Nope....99rebills is unlimited...ZERO means 0 nothing nada

Andre

[Pete-KT]

Fake Drama

[Gnus]

Yep I have the same thing here rowan. Looks like it's time to remove some links.

[Zarathustra]

I thought we already played this game and determined that "zero" meant indefinite?

CCBill?

"(Unlimited) rebills" means unlimited
"(Zero) rebills" means 0

[L0rdJuni0r]

cheaters suck..........

[rowan]

No fake drama. A legit sponsor will show this:

Trial Subscriptions: Payments for Rebills End After: (Unlimited) rebills Recurring Subscriptions: Payments for Rebills End After: (Unlimited) rebills

Exclusively4Affiliates shows this:

Trial Subscriptions: Payments for Rebills End After: (Zero) rebills Recurring Subscriptions: Payments for Rebills End After: (Zero) rebills

Zero rebills means you're paid on the initial signup only.

[Gnus]

Here's some more I have found. Doing the same thing

Sexypayouts.com
Yotone.com
Tomaparadise.com

[studiocritic]

No fake drama. A legit sponsor will show this:

Trial Subscriptions: Payments for Rebills End After: (Unlimited) rebills Recurring Subscriptions: Payments for Rebills End After: (Unlimited) rebills

Exclusively4Affiliates shows this:

Trial Subscriptions: Payments for Rebills End After: (Zero) rebills Recurring Subscriptions: Payments for Rebills End After: (Zero) rebills

Zero rebills means you're paid on the initial signup only.

Looks like you're right. I don't promote programs that don't cascade.

[The Ghost]

Does it say in their terms that they don't pay rebills on revshare? Amazed that programs (if it's true) still do these type of things.

[DutchTeenCash]

zero means zero

you wont get paid for rebills if youre promoting them - a prg id never signup for

period

[tenderobject]

Here's some more I have found. Doing the same thing

Sexypayouts.com
Yotone.com
Tomaparadise.com

hmm thats fucked. yotone is one of my sponsors. i have to check my sponsors then . thanks man.

[mikeyddddd]

I emailed Exclusively4Affiliates to respond.

It looks like a Nats account was created from the CCBill info.

[PORNPAYOUTS]

Click my sig... before all the drama about EXCLUSIVELY4AFFILIATES begins...

[Digipimp]

did you know that probably 3/4's sponsors cheat you somehow, so its not really news

[mikeyddddd]

Someone should be here shortly to explain things. They rebill through NATS.

If you don't promote Exclusively4Affiliates click here.

[RyanL]

I see rebills from exclusively4affiliates in both nats and in my old ccbill stats.

[mikeyddddd]

[PlugRush Sascha]

I've never had any issues with rebills on E4A even after the switch to NATS. I got an e-mail when they switched to NATS, so it wasn't any secret that they switched and the CCBILL links went through NATS and I've gotten signups this way with them.

[andrej_NDC]

I see rebills from exclusively4affiliates in both nats and in my old ccbill stats.

Yes, it affects only new sales and their rebills, but since they switched to NATS, they dont want new sales through the old ccbill link codes anymore probably(do they still allow affiliates to sign-up for a "ccbill only" program?). So the rebills for ccbill sales before NATS are not affected at all.

[Yotone]

yo yo yo! i never set anything to zero!!! im checking right now whats the deal.

[Yotone]

Here's some more I have found. Doing the same thing

Sexypayouts.com
Yotone.com
Tomaparadise.com

ok, so i check immediatly as well as called ccbill and all is correct...

unlimited rebills for all affiliates for life.

do tell me what you have found. and if you are mistaken i expect a retract of your statement.

[Mark_E4A]

To clear this up real quick

A) The old ccbill account WERE added into our nats system and ALL affiliates were emailed about this.

B) The old ccbill link codes STILL to this day will work (they all get redirected through YOUR nats code and you still get the credit.)
click your old ccbill link then look in your nats admin and you will see the hit
(for those who dont read sponsors emails and didnt see this email months ago please hit me up and I will get you your login info)

C) When the rebills ect.. were set to 0 (in ccbill) there were no past rebilling memberships left (through ccbill ) as this was a cpl months after we had nats running ( NATS is calculating ALL the rebills from all the billers).

[Yotone]

ok something is funky after all here, im with ccbill right now trying to figure it out.

fyi, i would NEVER have set zero rebills, ever.

[Mark_E4A]

ALL the rebills go through nats and ARE calculated.
not through the billers

[Gnus]

Yotone I have a screenshot for ya.



Gary

[Yotone]

well, it seems to be fixed now, i dont know how, when or why it was ever changed but seems it was just a few older accounts.

thanks for brining it to my attention. i dont know what else to say about it but all should be fixed now. if not, let me know.

[Gnus]

Yotone, Yes it is fixed and yes it was an older account. Would of never discovered it if it wasn't for this thread. Figured better check them all.

Gary

[FilthyRob]

Seems to be a dilema. How do you find out your ccbill account number and how to access the ccbill stats if your signed up through the nats program? I have an older original e4a ccbill account, but I don't think that's the one connected to my Nats account.

[Dirty Dane]

I was told by CCBill that (zero) means unlimited.

[RogerV]

We pay on rebills forever

[TheSwed]

To clear this up real quick

C) When the rebills ect.. were set to 0 (in ccbill) there were no past rebilling memberships left (through ccbill ) as this was a cpl months after we had nats running ( NATS is calculating ALL the rebills from all the billers).

So why set to 0?
if there was no more rebilling

[Lykos]

scammers...

[TheSwed]

scammers...

agree

[andrej_NDC]

I was told by CCBill that (zero) means unlimited.

I will give you zero dollars, enjoy.

[rankscom]

"Exclusively4..." seem legit to me! We've used them for quite a while now, and always gotten proper rebills from what I see. Now that they use Nats, those cc bill account settings don't apply anymore.

Sometimes things aren't always what they seem...

[rabbit]

a ton of sponsors kill old links when they change programs,but e4a ones work, which is great. mark's a good guy, i'll trust him on this one.

[Rep]

We pay on rebills forever

Classy


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[pocketkangaroo]

hmm thats fucked. yotone is one of my sponsors. i have to check my sponsors then . thanks man.

Shit, me too. Some very old sites too that still pull in a few sales a month, but still.

[georgeyw]

No surprise really, they changed NATs (and billers) several months ago and by default fucked over webmasters with existing ccbill links. Disabling any future ccbill rebills was just an extra kick in the teeth.

That's assuming they were not forcibly terminated by ccbill, of course.

stop speaking out of your arse! They emailled us all letting us know that existing ccbill links coulld be left as they will be redirected to our NATS code.

Mark is a good guy - how about speaking to him first before spouting bullshit like this.

[Mark_E4A]

Rowan
I would like to thank you for making this thread, it is a real eye opener.

I just spoke with ccbill and nothing was effected by the 0 on rebills ( as they are all going through NATS )

However, I also found out this:
because i only set the rebill to 0 and not the initial sale, you or any affiliate were paid not only by me ( E4A ) but also paid by ccbill for the same sale.

Again, thanks for making this clear to me

[georgeyw]

Rowan
I would like to thank you for making this thread, it is a real eye opener.

I just spoke with ccbill and nothing was effected by the 0 on rebills ( as they are all going through NATS )

However, I also found out this:
because i only set the rebill to 0 and not the initial sale, you or any affiliate were paid not only by me ( E4A ) but also paid by ccbill for the same sale.

Again, thanks for making this clear to me

damn so no more 100% payouts

first time an affiliate has been able to shave a sponsor

[Kenny B!]

Well looks like no more 100% payouts, thanks for ruining it for the rest of us lol.
Mark is an honest guy, he wouldn't cheat affiliates

[pornguy]

I am promoting them, just started actuallu. With nats link codes. So far, no good, but I am hopeful.

[georgeyw]

Well looks like no more 100% payouts, thanks for ruining it for the rest of us lol.
Mark is an honest guy, he wouldn't cheat affiliates

yes indeed - would be nice if there were more program owners like him!

[Solid Bob]

Rowan
I would like to thank you for making this thread, it is a real eye opener.

I just spoke with ccbill and nothing was effected by the 0 on rebills ( as they are all going through NATS )

However, I also found out this:
because i only set the rebill to 0 and not the initial sale, you or any affiliate were paid not only by me ( E4A ) but also paid by ccbill for the same sale.

Again, thanks for making this clear to me

[E$_manager]

THanks for making it clear to everyone.