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  • Nardimus
    Confirmed User
    • Feb 2003
    • 418

    #1

    New Program : NATS vs CCBILL

    I am starting up a new affiliate program with 7 sites and since we don't have a huge budget yet i am thinking of starting with just CCBILL to do the billing, stats, payouts and then to upgrade to NATS later on.

    My question is, do webmasters these days not even take your program seriously unless you use NATS or MPA3?

    Will going strictly CCBILL hold me back from gaining webmasters to promote my stuff?

    Thanks
  • mufas
    Confirmed User
    • Sep 2004
    • 1054

    #2
    For me CCBILL

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    • dial
      Confirmed User
      • May 2006
      • 1225

      #3
      I don't touch programs that use CCBILL....my clicks never add up and they scrub entirely too hard
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      • munki
        Do Fun Shit.
        • Dec 2004
        • 13393

        #4
        CCBill can be okay, but most programs that use them heavily code around the CCBill cookie's to give the wms a little more security with thier traffic.

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        • Jay_StandAhead
          Confirmed User
          • Jul 2002
          • 3103

          #5
          I hate promoting a CCbill program. Bad tracking, often no backup processor, etc. This makes for 20-30% less sales

          Go with NATS or don't go at all

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          • ninavain
            So Fucking Banned
            • Jan 2004
            • 6268

            #6
            NATS with 2 processors

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            • Nardimus
              Confirmed User
              • Feb 2003
              • 418

              #7
              Sounds like nats is worth the investment.

              which processors do you guys recommend going with when using NATS? CCBILL and Paycom?

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              • kaktuz
                Confirmed User
                • Sep 2004
                • 2422

                #8
                i dont like ccbill at all ;< it sux
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                • Nardimus
                  Confirmed User
                  • Feb 2003
                  • 418

                  #9
                  also with NATS, would we have to send out payments to webmasters ourselves? Are there any companies that would do this for you?

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                  • MarkMan
                    Confirmed User
                    • Feb 2005
                    • 1370

                    #10
                    as an affilate of many sites. i will tell you i preffer the once using NATS.. it also has great setup for Hosted gallerys and exporting the urls.. sites that don't use nats drive me nuz.. and some i just don't use .. becouse its too diffecult to deal with them

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                    • xlogger
                      Confirmed User
                      • Jul 2004
                      • 9507

                      #11
                      I was woundering about this as well.

                      Cant you like have nats and then let cbill cut the checks, is that possible?

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                      • PornAddict
                        Confirmed User
                        • Feb 2002
                        • 1401

                        #12
                        In the long run, you have more options to work with if you use NATS. They're also priced affordably for start-up companies so budgeting shouldn't be a big problem. I'd say go with them now... since you're planning on doing it in the future anyway, might as well just save yourself the time and your affiliates the hassle.

                        I did enjoy having CCBill cut the checks though.

                        - PornAddict

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                        • Sam I Am
                          Confirmed User
                          • Jul 2001
                          • 155

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Nardimus
                          also with NATS, would we have to send out payments to webmasters ourselves? Are there any companies that would do this for you?
                          Yes this is a good question about affiliate check processing. That's the one thing that makes me hesitant about starting with NATS instead of just using CCBill.

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                          • breaker
                            Confirmed User
                            • Oct 2003
                            • 652

                            #14
                            Originally posted by dial
                            I don't touch programs that use CCBILL....my clicks never add up and they scrub entirely too hard
                            Hmm i don't see how that makes any sense. If a program runs with NATS what do you think they process with in the back? NATS?
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                            • Manowar
                              jellyfish  
                              • Dec 2003
                              • 71528

                              #15
                              go with nats

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                              • shuki
                                Confirmed User
                                • Aug 2004
                                • 3070

                                #16
                                Nats
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                                • Greg MissionD
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Apr 2005
                                  • 4866

                                  #17
                                  Go with NATS, with the cascading billing options your also make more joins.
                                  There are other tools within nats that will also help you bring in more joins or mail out special offers to get members that cancel back for you and your affiliates.
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                                  • IamShaider
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Jun 2005
                                    • 545

                                    #18
                                    NATS baby
                                    $3 banner? That's fucking insane!

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                                    • madawgz
                                      8.8.8.8
                                      • Mar 2006
                                      • 30509

                                      #19
                                      sometimes peoples credit cards get declined on ccbill but approved with paycom
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                                      • bigdog
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Jul 2001
                                        • 6964

                                        #20
                                        Getting nats and and cascading between ccbill and paycom would be your best option. You are just leaving money on the table if you aren't doing it

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                                        • jerzeemedia
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • May 2004
                                          • 1532

                                          #21
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                                          • xclusive
                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                            • Apr 2004
                                            • 35218

                                            #22
                                            Nats is more than worth it.

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                                            • DutchTeenCash
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                                              • Feb 2003
                                              • 21684

                                              #23
                                              most do ccbill first then hop to nats, the epass/checks issue is troublesome but there are companies who do that just search

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                                              • darksoul
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Apr 2002
                                                • 4997

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by bigdog
                                                Getting nats and and cascading between ccbill and paycom would be your best option. You are just leaving money on the table if you aren't doing it
                                                only that you can't do cascade billing with ccbill.
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                                                • justsexxx
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                                                  • Aug 2001
                                                  • 13723

                                                  #25
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                                                  • Violetta
                                                    Affiliate
                                                    • Jul 2004
                                                    • 28735

                                                    #26
                                                    I love ccbill! If I had 10 sites + and a few people working for me, I would consider nats or stuff like that. But for now, ccbill rock! Stats are great and signup-ratios are very good!
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                                                    • rose4u
                                                      Registered User
                                                      • Jul 2005
                                                      • 72

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Nardimus
                                                      also with NATS, would we have to send out payments to webmasters ourselves? Are there any companies that would do this for you?
                                                      Nardimus,

                                                      My company specializes in Affiliate Payouts for companies using NATS or any other affiliate software. We offer check, ePassporte, Fund2Go, International and Domestic payout methods.

                                                      I'd love to discuss this further with you if you decide to go with NATS or just have any questions about our services.

                                                      Looking forward to hearing from you,
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