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  • FTVGirls
    So Fucking Banned
    • Oct 2002
    • 1052

    #1

    Internet billing services --

    I currently run with ccbill; their service and reliability is good -- however after all their processing fees and such, more than 25% of the gross sales goes to ccbill... it really bites.


    Now I have been contacted by comanies like http://www.netbilling.com/ and such which have far lower processing fees. Question is, I wish to keep quality customer service for members and such, and does these other sites really have lower quality services or parameters? I hear many are moving to globill for example.

    Any comments or opinions?
  • m0rph3us
    Confirmed User
    • Mar 2001
    • 2033

    #2
    From my experience ccbill has been horrible as far as sales & rebills.

    Ibill works great.

    ibill/ccbill/epoch all offer services that do not require you to have a merchant account (hence the 11-15% fee).

    Netbilling helps you get a merchant and process transactions through your merchant (that's why fees are lower), however you have to REALLY monitor your CB% because once you go over a threshold you can lose the merchant and get on the TMF (never be able to bill again).

    Then again, you have to watch your CB% with ibill/ccbill too .. so where's the benefit :-/
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    • FTVGirls
      So Fucking Banned
      • Oct 2002
      • 1052

      #3
      Since I'm new to this business, when you say ccbill is horrible with sales/rebills, what do you mean? Somehow there are problems with sales & rebills?
      I do get a lot of people who try to sign on and get the 'transaction denied due to...' and so on.

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      • Splicer
        Confirmed User
        • May 2002
        • 198

        #4
        Scrubbing motherfuckers!

        I think what he means is exactly what's happening to you.
        For some webmasters certain companies work better than others 'cause they have more slaes and rebills.
        This is due in part to the policies of each company (and the way they handle the actual billing and rebilling).

        Best thing to do is have at least two processors. And put Ccbill as alternate or get rid of it all together if you're getting all those denials.
        Are we rich yet?

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        • FTVGirls
          So Fucking Banned
          • Oct 2002
          • 1052

          #5
          So recommendations?

          Ibill? Globill? other? I chose ccbill because it was one of the largest companies, and it happens to have its corporate office only a few miles away from me.

          More input please ))

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          • Fatbrain
            Confirmed User
            • Oct 2002
            • 218

            #6
            I've been with Globill for 2 years...Customer Service is EXCELLENT and I have only had 2 chargebacks during my stay with them...They are prompt on support too!

            If your up to it (how I hate to say it) click on the sig!

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            • Tornado
              Confirmed User
              • Feb 2002
              • 287

              #7
              Hey there,

              If you go with Netbilling you can still offer your members excellent customer service for way less than the 3rd party billing companies charge. They take care of it for ya. Plus with the new Visa regulations there is really no reason not to get your own merchant acoount. Just my

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              • lagwagon
                Confirmed User
                • Jul 2001
                • 8464

                #8
                thanks for the input guys

                FTVGirls - FTVMilfs - DanielleFTV

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                • NETbilling
                  Confirmed User
                  • Jan 2002
                  • 8598

                  #9
                  Originally posted by lagwagon
                  thanks for the input guys
                  FTVgirls / Lagwagon

                  Please contact me at the office tomorrow if possible. I will explain everything including how will will handle all of your customer service as well for you.

                  Toll Free within the US: (888)357-8166
                  Outside the US: (661)252-2456

                  Thank you, Mitch Farber

                  p.s. Thanks for the plug Tornado!


                  Mitch Farber
                  CEO - NETbilling, Inc.
                  Email / Phone: 888-357-8166 / 661-252-2456
                  Transaction processing & 24/7 call center services with exceptional rates and flexibility, since 1998!

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                  • mrthumbs
                    salad tossing sig guy
                    • Apr 2002
                    • 11702

                    #10
                    Originally posted by netbilling


                    FTVgirls / Lagwagon

                    Please contact me at the office tomorrow if possible. I will explain everything including how will will handle all of your customer service as well for you.

                    Toll Free within the US: (888)357-8166
                    Outside the US: (661)252-2456

                    Thank you, Mitch Farber

                    p.s. Thanks for the plug Tornado!
                    You're a little too pushy on the boards Mitch.

                    Im sure that if i'd write a processing related
                    question on a post-it note and stick it to my desk
                    your number would appear instantly..

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                    • EscortBiz
                      Fuck Checks, CASH only!
                      • May 2002
                      • 19422

                      #11
                      well if you want to go with your own merchant account then yes netbilling is great I know many who use them.

                      But if you want to go the third party route CCBill is the way to go, I tried so many billers (not ProBilling lol)

                      Yes they scrub but what good does it do not to scrub and then end up with a chargeback.

                      I also found that Im getting way more affiliates to signup under ccbill

                      Plus never any stories about:

                      NSF checks because they changed banks
                      Account closed checks
                      Wire was by mistake sent somewhere else
                      Accounting is at lunch
                      We are moving offices so checks are late
                      Its an error on your server not ours
                      Long hold times

                      They are just ontime and always quick to help those are facts.

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                      • Bobo
                        Confirmed User
                        • Feb 2002
                        • 2253

                        #12
                        Originally posted by FTVGirls
                        I currently run with ccbill; their service and reliability is good -- however after all their processing fees and such, more than 25% of the gross sales goes to ccbill... it really bites.


                        Now I have been contacted by comanies like http://www.netbilling.com/ and such which have far lower processing fees. Question is, I wish to keep quality customer service for members and such, and does these other sites really have lower quality services or parameters? I hear many are moving to globill for example.

                        Any comments or opinions?
                        Wow. Hey, you know, your site looks really nice. The only problem I'm having with it from here is that it doesn't load very quickly. Maybe it's just a temporary connectivity issue, I'm not sure. But if it loads slow that may be a cause for cancellations.

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                        • Bobo
                          Confirmed User
                          • Feb 2002
                          • 2253

                          #13
                          Originally posted by EscortBiz
                          well if you want to go with your own merchant account then yes netbilling is great I know many who use them.

                          But if you want to go the third party route CCBill is the way to go, I tried so many billers (not ProBilling lol)

                          Yes they scrub but what good does it do not to scrub and then end up with a chargeback.

                          I also found that Im getting way more affiliates to signup under ccbill

                          Plus never any stories about:

                          NSF checks because they changed banks
                          Account closed checks
                          Wire was by mistake sent somewhere else
                          Accounting is at lunch
                          We are moving offices so checks are late
                          Its an error on your server not ours
                          Long hold times

                          They are just ontime and always quick to help those are facts.

                          Are you allowed to customize the actually ccbill affiliate sign-up pages? They're ugly and barren. I also hate the fact that it doesn't send you your password after you join a ccbill affilate program.

                          But besides those small issues ccbill is a great processor.

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