CMS recommendations

[redalert]

Looking at getting a decent cms for my new paysite.

Could anyone recommend a decent cms which doesn't cost the earth?

Thanks for your help

[Brother Bareback]

I have a buddy that uses www.sitedepth.com and LOVES it, plus from what I can tell the price is perfect

[madawgz]

sitedepth is wicked, but maybe you should just hire a coder to cutom code one for you

[nata25]

aWIZ Paysite Manager - check the huge list of features, and then look at the price: for one paysite just $99.

[Greg MissionD]

Carma from the same guys that do NATS (toomuchmedia) we use carma and it's really good

[one eight]

Been using Xtract, from ecoders.biz and like it.. simple and powerful.

[quantum-x]

I have used ALL the CMS systems listed above, in a variety of situations.

1. aWiz - Cheaper option. It has some nice features, but it always felt 'cheap' to me.
PRO: Cheap, some nice features
CON: Cheap


2. SiteDepth - a very good option for in the middle of the field. It has a better templatinbg system, and a more solid backend than aWiz (In my opinion). We had quite a few security issues w/ the last two versions, but I am assured they are fixed in the latest version.
PRO: Good price, solid backend
CON: Fixed templating system (compared to CARMA), less flexible (than CARMA)


3) CARMA. It's much more expensive, but it's worth every penny. If you're trying to manage quite a few sites, then this is definitely the system to use.
If you're looking for TOTAL flexibility in design and the ability to SCRIPT your OWN functions as you need, look no further than CARMA.
PRO: More functionality and flexibility than all others. AMAZING support.
CON: May be priced out of your range.


Hope that helps.

[Sinstar]

I haven't used anything but sitedepth. Its good, fairly easy to use, and does everything I need. Good luck with whatever you choose!

[VicJay]

We have a special offer this month: 50% off on Xeon Vega CMS
so you can buy it for only $500 and you can get a design for your paysite and members area for free

please check out demo version here: http://xeonlogic.com/demo/vega.php
contact me at any time via ICQ

[aico]

SiteDepth... love it...

[The Ghost]

Looking forward to the newest version of Carma that's due out soon. If it's everything that's been promised it is my wet dream.

BTW I have both Sitedepth and Carma.

[nata25]

I have used ALL the CMS systems listed above, in a variety of situations.

1. aWiz - Cheaper option. It has some nice features, but it always felt 'cheap' to me.
PRO: Cheap, some nice features
CON: Cheap

Well, 3500$ (carma) for actually the same features which costs $349 at aWIZ... No comments.
If you consider that cheaper price is bad factor, you always can pay more, we have nothing against.

quantum-x, please be so kind to specify your aWIZ licensed domain, it will help me and all other readers here to be sure that you really was/is our client. Because "JaYMaN Cash" seems never was in the list of clients of aWIZ... This is just a question of your opinion's weight.
Thank you.

[candyflip]

As someone else mentioned above, XTract does a great job. All the features of the big boys, at much less cost. You can even get the source code to make your own adjustments as needed.

See sig.

[fris]

i would go with CARMA you will benefit in the long run.

[nata25]

You can even get the source code to make your own adjustments as needed.

Ahh, I just forgot to say
Any aWIZ package include 120 scripts, and 102 of them are delivered in open source in any type of license.
+ all templates supports includes of external scripts, access to the database is not restricted. Thus, possibilities for adjustments are unlimited.

[quantum-x]

Well, 3500$ (carma) for actually the same features which costs $349 at aWIZ... No comments.
If you consider that cheaper price is bad factor, you always can pay more, we have nothing against.

quantum-x, please be so kind to specify your aWIZ licensed domain, it will help me and all other readers here to be sure that you really was/is our client. Because "JaYMaN Cash" seems never was in the list of clients of aWIZ... This is just a question of your opinion's weight.
Thank you.

I've used aWhiz on over 35 different domains, over two different clients. I didn't say it was licensed to me, I was doing work on it for clients.

To be honest, when you say aWIZ has all the features of CARMA, you're being dishonest. It's just that simple.

I'm unsure of your attitude, so I'm just assuming you're being nice, and I'll happily play along.

[nata25]

To be honest, when you say aWIZ has all the features of CARMA, you're being dishonest. It's just that simple.

quantum-x, I would be happy at any moment to compare features of aWIZ and carma in detail!
But ...on the carma site I discovered the blank fields in the features' page... Maybe something wrong with my browser

OK, anyway, if you are so experienced user of this cms, may I ask you to mention the features which are not exist in aWIZ? And which grounds the TENFOLD difference in the price.
Thank you.

[nata25]

Unfortunately because of our modesty very late, just a few days ago, we have started to form "testimonials" section, and only few of the clients left the comments at this moment.
But anyway it is real clients, who worked with aWIZ script, who know its quality, and felt the level of support. So it may be useful to read:
http://awiz.org/testimonials/

[quantum-x]

quantum-x, I would be happy at any moment to compare features of aWIZ and carma in detail!
But ...on the carma site I discovered the blank fields in the features' page... Maybe something wrong with my browser

OK, anyway, if you are so experienced user of this cms, may I ask you to mention the features which are not exist in aWIZ? And which grounds the TENFOLD difference in the price.
Thank you.

1) I don't like your attitude; someone asked for opinions, I gave mine. SImply because you don't like mine doesn't mean you can start being smart.

2) If your only knowledge on CARMA is what is written on their features page- and you only just looked at it, then you've got poor research skills.

I'll be more than happy to help out other people with their choice in this thread, but I'm finished wasting my time with you.

[nata25]

1) I don't like your attitude; someone asked for opinions, I gave mine. SImply because you don't like mine doesn't mean you can start being smart.

The only idea I try to defend here - potential clients should make well-considered choice, which may be based on:
a) real features comparison
b) quality of product
c) quality of support
d) PRICE
And not on some doubtful remarks like "I didn't try but I advise" or "I somehow tried but even can't call the licensed domain".

Anyway, you have blamed me in "unhonestly", but can't call any features difference. The question is clear for me.

2) If your only knowledge on CARMA is what is written on their features page- and you only just looked at it, then you've got poor research skills.

So you think that we should torture the carmas' support with "personal presentation", just in order to learn the features?! Hmm... maybe it is good way for "research skills", but unacceptable for us by the ethical reasons!
Moreover I always thought that website was created to give to men some info...

[Harry Red]

Using aWIZ quite a long time and have no problems neither with the script nor with the support. I think it's the optimal solution for my needs..
So far..
^)

[ShaneRyale]

I've used site depth on some of my sites, and CARMA is the only one that could setup my members area exactly how I wanted it. Nothing else I looked at had the same type of flexibility.

Thanks to Quantum-x for the great assistance in helping me set it up! He's definately one of the most well versed, intelligent guys I've met in the industry.

[quantum-x]

The only idea I try to defend here - potential clients should make well-considered choice, which may be based on:
a) real features comparison
b) quality of product
c) quality of support
d) PRICE
And not on some doubtful remarks like "I didn't try but I advise" or "I somehow tried but even can't call the licensed domain".

Anyway, you have blamed me in "unhonestly", but can't call any features difference. The question is clear for me.


So you think that we should torture the carmas' support with "personal presentation", just in order to learn the features?! Hmm... maybe it is good way for "research skills", but unacceptable for us by the ethical reasons!
Moreover I always thought that website was created to give to men some info...

Ok, here I go again. Apologies for the threadjack.
1- I agree with all of your points a-d - but as you yourself have admitted- you don't know what CARMA's features are. You haven't used it. I don't know if you've used sitedepth either, so I won't go there.

While you would probably be the most knowledgable person here in regards to aWIZ - I think it's fair to discount your arguments based on the fact you don't know the compeition products.

I am not revealing who I have worked for, but safe to say they're on your testimonials page (PS: run a spell check on that page, it's kinda amusing to have people on there talknig about incontinence).

I don't have to do a feature comparison, because I have better things to do than to do your job for you.

You seem to think that I'm attacking your product, which I'm not. See my original post. As you've admitted, you don't know what CARMA can do, so it's impossible to say aWIZ can do everything CARMA can do.

Now I'm done. Thanks for the props Shane

[martinsc]

if you want to try out some cms before you install it pay this site a visit...
http://www.opensourcecms.com/

[Kenny B!]

You should look into ElevatedX they have some kick ass features, really worth a look! You can contact AJ his icq is 202-474-015 he'll hook you up!

[Tam]

I've used site depth on some of my sites, and CARMA is the only one that could setup my members area exactly how I wanted it. Nothing else I looked at had the same type of flexibility.

Thanks to Quantum-x for the great assistance in helping me set it up! He's definately one of the most well versed, intelligent guys I've met in the industry.

Same here, I have been using it for many years myself, whether it be on my own projects or others, I have had my hands in MANY of their scripts and I have to say, they are top notch on support, security and everything else. Their scripts are very straight forward and easy to understand. Features are over the top too. For the price of this script, you won't even come close to finding anything that works as well.

And NO, I don't make anything off this, not an employee or anything, just a very loyal and happy client on their long list of clients.

HELL, I have even asked that they alter pieces of their scripts for me and they have done so without question, you don't get better support than this anywhere.

[NoWhErE]

Its simple, Carma is the superior program.

Anything else pales in comparison. If you're opening up a paysite, its definately worth the initial expense

[Nathan]

Thanks for all the props people... wait till ya see v1.1