Etelegate =IBILL= SCAM ..Same Crooks Different Name!

[DEA - banned for life]

Etelegate =IBILL Its IBILLs way of ripping off webmasters by raising rates and double charging for transactions ,refunds and chargebacks and stealing 20% in reserves now go to www.etelegate.com notice the phone number on right hand side of screen :

1-800-676-0127

Call and listen to IBILL sales departments pathetic message !

These people are Crooks stealing money and i think its time sombody paid Gary Spaniak a personal visit , IF not to get there money ..atleast take whats owed out of his lying thieving cheating ass !

FUCK YOU IBILL , FUCK YOU ETELEGATE , FUCK YOU IBID FUCK YOU GKARD FUCK ALL YOU AND YOUR MOTHERS !

[MickeyG]

that's pretty shitty but really doesn't surprise me. Looks like they shifted the accounts to the new company and bailed out on the notes payable and all previous debts.

[ajrocks]

People shouldn't be stupid enough to use them. That would stop them. As long as idiots are using them they will be in business.

[mazdaman]

ibill lol

[mazdaman]

oh yeh i forgot sign up to the sponsers in my sig people!

[will76]

Etelegate =IBILL Its IBILLs way of ripping off webmasters by raising rates and double charging for transactions ,refunds and chargebacks and stealing 20% in reserves now go to www.etelegate.com notice the phone number on right hand side of screen :

1-800-676-0127

Call and listen to IBILL sales departments pathetic message !

These people are Crooks stealing money and i think its time sombody paid Gary Spaniak a personal visit , IF not to get there money ..atleast take whats owed out of his lying thieving cheating ass !

FUCK YOU IBILL , FUCK YOU ETELEGATE , FUCK YOU IBID FUCK YOU GKARD FUCK ALL YOU AND YOUR MOTHERS !

Back at the 2000 Internext Show in New Orleans, there was a new third party processor that had a booth, the company's name was Digiblaze. This was the same mother fuckers who ran Web800. Web800 wasn't even 100% dead (kinda like how ibill has been the last couple months) and these assholes had already jumped ship and started a new company. The same people who ran web800 in the ground was trying to get old web800 people to signup to their new company Digiblaze. Naturally they were trying to keep the fact that they were web800 people low key. I am talking about the very high up people, not sales reps or anything like that, but the people who actually ran the company. I can't believe these guys are allowed to keep fucking up, losing OUR money, then getting a clean slate to try again. BTW, Digiblaze was out of business less then 1 year later. Some of these 3rd party guys are worst then used car sales man.

[JFK]

that's pretty shitty but really doesn't surprise me. Looks like they shifted the accounts to the new company and bailed out on the notes payable and all previous debts.

Where is the fraud squad when you need them ?

[John69]

Back at the 2000 Internext Show in New Orleans, there was a new third party processor that had a booth, the company's name was Digiblaze. This was the same mother fuckers who ran Web800. Web800 wasn't even 100% dead (kinda like how ibill has been the last couple months) and these assholes had already jumped ship and started a new company. The same people who ran web800 in the ground was trying to get old web800 people to signup to their new company Digiblaze. Naturally they were trying to keep the fact that they were web800 people low key. I am talking about the very high up people, not sales reps or anything like that, but the people who actually ran the company. I can't believe these guys are allowed to keep fucking up, losing OUR money, then getting a clean slate to try again. BTW, Digiblaze was out of business less then 1 year later. Some of these 3rd party guys are worst then used car sales man.

dont you mean web900 ?

[John69]

Etelegate =IBILL Its IBILLs way of ripping off webmasters by raising rates and double charging for transactions ,refunds and chargebacks and stealing 20% in reserves now go to www.etelegate.com notice the phone number on right hand side of screen :

1-800-676-0127

Call and listen to IBILL sales departments pathetic message !

These people are Crooks stealing money and i think its time sombody paid Gary Spaniak a personal visit , IF not to get there money ..atleast take whats owed out of his lying thieving cheating ass !

FUCK YOU IBILL , FUCK YOU ETELEGATE , FUCK YOU IBID FUCK YOU GKARD FUCK ALL YOU AND YOUR MOTHERS !

I am pissed off as well, IBILL is a piece of shit.

[Screaming]

bUMP for ibill sucking balls.

[u-Bob]

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[Servhot]

just thrown out etelegate before I was aware of this - as the system could not handle CC at all and they are not able to do payments to countries outside of the US - but now for sure I will not get them back ever for processing

[DutchTeenCash]

hmm good to know

[FuckU2]

Yet another Ibill thread ?

Im amazed at how many clue less fucks are out there. First if you still have an Ibill account you are a stupid asshole, if you switch to this Etelegate scam you deserve to lose all your fucking money because your too stupid to hold on to it ( money doesn't come with instructions ).

People wake up this is the porn industry no fucker will help us to fight Ibill, no government agency is worried, in fact they want to close us down so if anything im sure they will back Ibill, Globill, Web 800 etc. in stealing our money.

The only people who got paid by Ibill any substantial amounts took action on September 2004 or before, i doubt there is anything left at Ibill now so you are wasting more $$$ if you invest in legal action.

The only legal way to stop these anal rapists is to post messages on all web master boards, perhaps getting the owners of those boards to keep them stuck to the top for a few months. Ibill don't owe me a dime as i stopped promoting sponsors who use them in 2002. But they leave a stain on our industry a stain that makes us the laughing stock of the internet.

[FuckU2]

????? Double post ?????

[Booger]

People shouldn't be stupid enough to use them. That would stop them. As long as idiots are using them they will be in business.

And as long as the webmasters who did get fucked over int the past keep the word out ,there will be that many less new webmasters getting fucked out of there revenue in the future

[scardog]

Bump for the crooked asshole theives.

[directfiesta]

Dear xxxxxxxx Corporation,


In order to continue processing transactions uninterrupted we ask that you upload the information detailed below as soon as possible. We would like to have all necessary documents uploaded by the end of April. Please log into your account at www.etelegate.com and follow the steps there to upload the documents requested. If you have any questions regarding these requirements, please contact [email protected] or call us directly at 888.371.7800 or directly at 954.363.4400



Please upload the following documents for review:



<!--[if !supportLists]-->· <!--[endif]-->Photo ID- High quality (at least 200dpi), color scans of government issued photo IDs will be accepted. These include passports, driver's licenses and ID cards. Please ensure the ID is valid (not expired) and includes a picture of yourself. Additionally, the ID must contain a name, birth date and ID number.



<!--[if !supportLists]-->· <!--[endif]-->Certificate of Incorporation- High quality scans of the certificate issued by the government with a seal will be accepted. If the business is a Sole Proprietorship, please upload a blank check, utility bill, or some other document which shows the name and address of the business. If you do not have any such documents, please contact us.



<!--[if !supportLists]-->· <!--[endif]-->Signed contract. The entire contract does not need to be uploaded. Please upload an initialed copy of the Rates & Fees page as well as the Signature page.



Additionally, please input a username/password for each web site so that we may do the following:



Log into your Etelegate account at www.etelegate.com
Select ?Tools?
Select ?Websites?
Select ?Edit? for each site you want to update.


WEBSITE SETTINGS

Complete all of the following fields:

Website URL
Your Order Page URL
Your Return Page URL
Your 2257 Compliance Page (If applicable)
Your Customer Service Email
Your Customer Phone Number
Your Website Ftp address (Example: ftp://ftp.myftpserver.com)
Your Website Ftp Username
Your Website Ftp Password


ENABLE PASSWORD MANAGEMENT

All fields in this section must be complete if your site contains a member?s area.

<!--[if !supportLists]-->· <!--[endif]-->Please provide a sample username/password so our Risk Department can review the member?s area content.

<!--[if !supportLists]-->· <!--[endif]-->Members Login URL

<!--[if !supportLists]-->· <!--[endif]-->Member Username

<!--[if !supportLists]-->· <!--[endif]-->Member Password



Thank you for your cooperation. We are here to help in any way and to assist you and make in this transition as easy to get set up correctly as possible.



Your iBill Support and Sales Team





Your Login Information:

Dear Etelgate ( or Ibill ). I will comply if you send me high quality scan of YOUR personnal ID's and copies of your incorporation.

If not, stick your shit backup your ass...

[FuckU2]

More blackmail and yet more scams

April 13, 2006

It has come to our attention that clients are attempting to cancel transactions or issue refunds through the CMI. Please be aware that as of April 01, 2006, iBill began processing subscription data through Etelegate?s system. All cancellations and refund requests would have to be processed through Etelegate. CMI has only been made available as a tool to recover historical accounting and payout data. All iBill client and customer information has been migrated over to Etelegate and a majority of the CMI functionality has been disabled. Any transactions or refunds that have been issued in CMI after April 13th will not be processed.



If you need to issue a refund or cancel a transaction you will need to log into the Etelegate system and click on the transactions option. There you will be able to view the different type of transactions, select the timeframe and the status and the system will provide you with Transaction Details. It will give you the option to cancel and refund recurring subscriptions or the ability to issue a refund for a one-time transaction.



If you do not have a username and password for etelegate.com, please contact our Sales Department at 888-371-7800 or 954-363-4400, so that they may issue you one.



Your iBill Support Team


Ibill go fuck yourself and you new scamming partners

[Booger]

Fuck Ibill...bump

[DEA - banned for life]

Etelegate is just another name for IBILL .Crooks!

[toddcan]

Warning to Ex IBill Clients:
Here's something to think about. I was an IBill victim. They fucked us hard too!

IBill still may have direct deposit account information for some ex IBill clients. In re-bills, I still got a few small checks this year from them, so they had my direct deposit info, so I could be paid. Hell I'll take what they send.

If IBill sends Etelegate your account info, and they probably will (The Fucking Crooks They Are!) They could try to take there mega monthly fees, charge back fees, & so called settlement fees, right out of your account without even your permission to do it! Watch em!

Just because you took the IBill buttons down, don't mean there done fucking you. They just keep on fucking!

Don't be stupid and change any direct deposit accounts that you gave to IstealyourmoneyBill!!!!

Big Daddy Todd

[tony286]

Warning to Ex IBill Clients:
Here's something to think about. I was an IBill victim. They fucked us hard too!

IBill still may have direct deposit account information for some ex IBill clients. In re-bills, I still got a few small checks this year from them, so they had my direct deposit info, so I could be paid. Hell I'll take what they send.

If IBill sends Etelegate your account info, and they probably will (The Fucking Crooks They Are!) They could try to take there mega monthly fees, charge back fees, & so called settlement fees, right out of your account without even your permission to do it! Watch em!

Just because you took the IBill buttons down, don't mean there done fucking you. They just keep on fucking!

Don't be stupid and change any direct deposit accounts that you gave to IstealyourmoneyBill!!!!

Big Daddy Todd

IF you never signed a contract with them like they wanted then they cant do that.

[Drake]

IF you never signed a contract with them like they wanted then they cant do that.

A contract for Etelegate or some other contract?

[tony286]

A contract for Etelegate or some other contract?

to continue processing we were supposed to sign a contract etelegate my wife told me. the deal was very fucked up and was tired of taking it up the ass from them. We instead canceled the rebills we have left with them.

[DEA - banned for life]

Fuck Ibill Fuck Etelegate Fuck Segpay Fuck All There Mothers Too

[DebsDeep]

bump for all the money owed

[toddcan]

Ibill keeps stealing from you!

IBill -The Processor that keep on fucking you!

What IBill/Etelegate is doing is making there processing and monthly charges high enough to out weigh the amount of any low count rebills. Thus forcing you to give them more of your hard earned money. These crooks need to be federally snapped. Yeah like that will happen!

In my case I only have a handful of rebills left there. I have got a check for $61.07 every 2 weeks from them since January. Why 61.07, I have no fucking idea? Now they have figured out how to screw me out of that money too. It is MY MONEY!

They screwed me out of about $15,000.00 in transactions when I settled with them last year. Now they still owe me for reserve money of $6281.90 and Discover card transactions which they never paid me.

I just got off the phone with IBill. I quit them formally. I told them to keep the rebills and pay me my reserve moneys. The guy on the phone was ok and took all my account info and the totals of what Ibill still owed me. He gave me a ticket # and said that someone would get back to me. I wont hold my breath.

The new phone number is 306-781-7660 if you want to formally cancel.

B.D. Todd @robertacanyon.com

[DebsDeep]

last year they sent me a check for 2500 bucks, it bounced, i still have it, can i do anything to them for it?

[DebsDeep]

i doubt anyone will ever see any money

[toddcan]

Yeah we wont see any money. I still can't belive the feds let them get away with this shit. FUCK THE STSTEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Booger]

Bump For The Fuckin Lying Theives !

[Webby]

Shit.. another thread on em... OK.. Just posted this on another thread..

On whois the etelegate.com has the following data:

Registrant:
Etelegate
Cariocca Business Park,
2 Sawley Road
London, UK M40 8BB

Registrar: NAMESDIRECT
Domain Name: ETELEGATE.COM
Created on: 31-MAR-04
Expires on: 31-MAR-08
Last Updated on: 22-MAR-06

Administrative, Technical Contact:
THomas, Mr [email protected]
Etelegate
Cariocca Business Park, 2 Sawley Road
London, UK M40 8BB

There is no such address in London as Cariocca Business Park, 2 Sawley Road. This should read Manchester.

This company, Etelegate Limited, (of 2 Sawley Road, Manchester), continues to use a maildrop address at 29 Harley Street London W1G 9QR.

Etelegate Limited of Cariocca Business Park, 2 Sawley Road, Manchester, M40 8BB is a dissolved company and has never submitted any annual filings since incorporation date - namely, it is a dead parrot company. The UK company number is 05121625.

The domain, etelegate.com current lists this dissolved company, Etelegate Limited as it's mailing contact and uses the maildrop address 29 Harley Street London W1G 9QR.

The above obviously raises some question over who exactly "Etelegate" is and what legal entity and jurisdiction they purport to operate under.

This "company" does not fall within UK law as may be suggested by the addresses above and it is a criminal offense within the UK to trade or use the name of a dissolved or liquidated company.

As with all things, there can be simple explanations, however other background information does not point to a "simple explanation".

For further information on Etelegate Limited call UK Companies House Contact Centre on 0870 33 33 636. If the matter appears to relate to a criminal offense, complaints may be filed with UK Metropolitan Police, West End Central, 27 Saville Row, London - Tel: (0)20 7437 1212.

[Webby]

Dear Etelgate ( or Ibill ). I will comply if you send me high quality scan of YOUR personnal ID's and copies of your incorporation.

Damn... now that would be interesting to see what they claim is their copies of certificate of incorporation

[FUCKED_BY_IBILL]

Lets forget the money we are owed by IBILL and now ETELEGATE. Its time we deny access to anyone who joined our site using the above. Just delete the IBILL .htaccess located on your server, and all the users who paid to get in thru IBILL and ETELEGATE will be asking for refunds and charge backs. This way, those assholes will lose their merchant accounts and get nothing, just like we are getting nothing. Do it today, I did. When my members tell me they cant login, I simply tell them to call their banks and get their money back since I didnt get it.

[Thee Johnclave]

Back at the 2000 Internext Show in New Orleans, there was a new third party processor that had a booth, the company's name was Digiblaze. This was the same mother fuckers who ran Web800. Web800 wasn't even 100% dead (kinda like how ibill has been the last couple months) and these assholes had already jumped ship and started a new company. The same people who ran web800 in the ground was trying to get old web800 people to signup to their new company Digiblaze. Naturally they were trying to keep the fact that they were web800 people low key. I am talking about the very high up people, not sales reps or anything like that, but the people who actually ran the company. I can't believe these guys are allowed to keep fucking up, losing OUR money, then getting a clean slate to try again. BTW, Digiblaze was out of business less then 1 year later. Some of these 3rd party guys are worst then used car sales man.

Wrong. One person from Web800 (DMR) moved on to Digiblaze. Not even close to the same company.

Oh yeah...bump for iBill

[Booger]

Fuck em all ! even ex emplyees can go fuck themselves for all i care .
The SS did the work for hitler just like ibill employees did it for there bosses.Fuck EM All

[John69]

ibill blows

[Barefootsies]

IF you never signed a contract with them like they wanted then they cant do that.

Correct.

You have to sign a contract, or a reversabiltiy form (whatever it's called) that authorizes them to be able to seize, charge, or take back funds or overpayments. If you never signed one of these, then you have no worries.

Some companies have them in their original contract. Others have them if your deposits are over a certain dollar amount, say... $500.

[Barefootsies]

last year they sent me a check for 2500 bucks, it bounced, i still have it, can i do anything to them for it?

Depends on state, interstate, and commerce laws. Bounced checks over a certain amount are a felony. Report them.

[Greg MissionD]

Discount Rate

MasterCard & Visa
13.69%

Rolling Reserve

180 Days
10.00%

Settlements

Wire Transfers
$25.00

Other Fees

Monthly Account Fee


$59.00

Per Transaction Fee
(Charged on Approved/Declined)


$0.00

Fraud Scrubbing Transaction Fee


$0.00

Refund Transaction Fee


$15.00

Chargeback Fee (Under1%)


$50.00

Chargeback Fee (Over 1%)


$150.00

Customer Fee
(This is charged directly from the customer)


1.99

Set-up Fee

Gateway integration & Account setup
(Taken out of processing)


$0.00

Up Front Setup Fee


$0.00

Payment Schedule


Paid on 1st and 15th of each month
14 days behind



I looked in my account today and i'm missing domains and all sorts.
anyhow...
I'm going to refund all the transactions in there and email the members asking them to chargeback those and any other transactions.

[Booger]

Fuck IBILL Etelegate

[XxXotic]

IF you never signed a contract with them like they wanted then they cant do that.

um these people are thieves, you think contracts are going to bind them to anything?

it's like passing 2257 laws, it's not as if people pushing CP are following any laws to begin with, putting new laws in place isn't going to stop anything. So why would a company who steals money and scams people worry about something as trivial as a contract?

If they have your bank info, I'd be worried.

[DEA - banned for life]

Fucking Crooks I hope they rot in hell's hell

[Gaybucks]

Had anyone heard of Etelegate *before* the "transfer" of accounts from Ibill?

I can't imagine they will be able to keep their merchant account very long with all of the webmasters either refunding transactions or advising customers to do chargebacks... does anyone know (or have any way of finding out) who the underlying bank(s) are?

[Webby]

Had anyone heard of Etelegate *before* the "transfer" of accounts from Ibill?

I can't imagine they will be able to keep their merchant account very long with all of the webmasters either refunding transactions or advising customers to do chargebacks... does anyone know (or have any way of finding out) who the underlying bank(s) are?

Re heard of them... Nope. Etelegate Limited was incorporated in.. think 2004 and later dissolved. There are no corporate account filings.

In reality, right at this moment, there is no legal entity called Etelegate Limited of 29 Harley Street, London. Tho there may be an illegal one

It's all crap with an agenda behind it - something law enforcement illustrate using fraud maps.

[will76]

Wrong. One person from Web800 (DMR) moved on to Digiblaze. Not even close to the same company.

Oh yeah...bump for iBill

thats not what i heard at the convention in New Orleans when it was all going down and I heard this from all the bigger companies who were getting screwed out of 100K's $$$ from web800 dmr. I was just a little fish then. But I did do my research and one asshole at the Digiblaze booth was like the VP of something with Ibill a couple months before, he was now a higher guy with Digiblaze.

[Thee Johnclave]

thats not what i heard at the convention in New Orleans when it was all going down and I heard this from all the bigger companies who were getting screwed out of 100K's $$$ from web800 dmr. I was just a little fish then. But I did do my research and one asshole at the Digiblaze booth was like the VP of something with Ibill a couple months before, he was now a higher guy with Digiblaze.

Yes, the VP of Biz Dev for Digiblaze was originally at DMR, and from Digiblaze went to iBill. He was the one an only common denominator (clients aside) between DMR and Digiblaze.

[DEA - banned for life]

bump for my fucking money

[David - PG]

Will I think you were seeking legal action against Ibill. Any hopeful results from that? I guess most people wouldn't even bother regardless of what they're owed, too much headache that nobody needs amonst day-to-day operations.

thats not what i heard at the convention in New Orleans when it was all going down and I heard this from all the bigger companies who were getting screwed out of 100K's $$$ from web800 dmr. I was just a little fish then. But I did do my research and one asshole at the Digiblaze booth was like the VP of something with Ibill a couple months before, he was now a higher guy with Digiblaze.