5%'ers

[nocostporn]

the new crazy religion,I dont know too much about it but wanted to see what everybody else thought or knew on the subject

[cat]

huh
what are you talking about??

[Lane]

Originally posted by cat
huh

indeed

[XXX_Jman]

are they anything like 'Hells Angels" - 1%ers?????????

[Brujah]

Originally posted by nocostporn
the new crazy religion,I dont know too much about it but wanted to see what everybody else thought or knew on the subject

Is that the nickel per post cult ?

[nocostporn]

Originally posted by cat
huh
what are you talking about??

uh yeah let's make me out to be stupid for asking about a religion which has been linked to the sniping of 10 people... "indeed" you people need to get your day to day news from some other place then GFY because your lost its a new religion basically being spun off from the nation of islam,people(black males) who consider themselves God

http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion...oldblatt_x.htm


The mainstream media are slowly catching up with the buzz on hip-hop Web sites about a possible connection between John Allen Muhammad, indicted in the Washington-area sniper case, and a virulently racist black group called the Five Percent Nation of Gods and Earths, to which several of today's most popular rap acts have acknowledged longstanding ties.

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The Associated Press has reported that notes left at two shooting scenes contain language and symbols associated with the Five Percenters, who splintered off from the Nation of Islam (NOI) in 1964 and consider themselves a culture, not a faith. Muhammad was once a NOI member, but the FBI (news - web sites) declined to comment on any connection between the sniper's notes and the Five Percenters, whose leaders also did not comment. If the connection is proved true, however, the repercussions will be felt throughout an element of the hip-hop community that already is rife with suspicion and animosity toward white society.

The group's philosophy rejects most accepted authority and history. It teaches that 85% of people are ignorant followers and another 10% try to lead those ignorant masses to enrich themselves. The enlightened Five Percent who remain have true knowledge and must wage war against the 10% for control. The details of what the Five Percenters believe and how they act on those beliefs are disputed. Some in law enforcement deem the group a racist gang. South Carolina's prison system has rated all Five Percenter prisoners security threats.

Black male Five Percenters are ''Gods'' and will refer to themselves as God. One letter from the sniper contained the demand that police call the author ''God'' and a stock Five Percenter phrase, ''word is bond,'' along with five stars, also used by the group. A tarot card left at another shooting stated, ''I am God.''

'Open season'

As the Anti-Defamation League and a few scholars have noted, Five Percenter theory stands behind the apocalyptic visions of race war expressed in the rap music of some of the more influential hip-hop performers. In Goin Bananas, Da Lench Mob raps: ''We're having thoughts of overthrowing the government . . . it's open season on crackers, you know; the morgue will be full of Caucasian John Does . . . oh my god, Allah, have mercy; I'm killing them devils because they're not worthy to walk the earth with the original black man . . . I won't rest until they're all dead.''

Sunz of Man, an offshoot group of the wildly popular Wu-Tang Clan, repeats similar ideas in the song Can I See You: ''Camouflaged for the mission; use your third eye to see the Israelite; detect those who tell lies . . . carry .45s in these last days and times . . . I was born to survive a soldier, and I strive, with a duty to civilize these 85s . . . an original black man with a plan to run these devils off our . . . land; now listen real close while I explain the operation.''

A rap by the group Brand Nubian is even less subtle: ''It's all about brothers rising up, wising up, sizing up a situation, but getting fit within the Nation . . . I sing sounds of math on behalf of the Gods and the Earths . . . now face your maker and take your last breath; the time is half past death.''

Wide influence

These acts' appeal is largely limited to hard-core hip-hop fans, but even artists who've crossed over to mainstream audiences and whose videos turn up regularly on MTV, such as rappers Busta Rhymes, Rakim and Nas, have flirted with Five Percenter concepts. What's unnerving is that these acts are not only among the most critically acclaimed hip-hop stars, but they are acclaimed precisely because they're considered the most politically sophisticated rappers.

The question, of course, isn't whether hip-hop performers have a constitutional right to express crazy, or even racially incendiary, ideas. Clearly, they do. The question is to what degree their fans are taking them seriously as they try literally to drum an us-against-them mind-set into young black people.

Pubic Enemy's Chuck D., the first overtly political rapper, once called hip-hop ''the black CNN.'' It will be a terrible development if it turns out that John Allen Muhammad was tuning in for the news.

[Brujah]

Get your ass back across 8-mile whitey!

[nocostporn]

Originally posted by Brujah
Get your ass back across 8-mile whitey!

LOL,no it's not something I'M interested in,personally I find it to be a load of shit but I want to be knowledgable on the topic for when I have to argue with somebody

[DjSap]

NOI is the black version of the modern KKK....

[Brujah]

Did the sniper do jail-time before? Big hip-hop fan ?

http://comp.uark.edu/~tsweden/5per.html
Among the commercially successful and critically hailed rappers who belong to the Nation of Gods and Earths are: Rakim (Allah) of Eric B and Rakim, Big Daddy Kane, Poor Righteous Teachers, Busta Rhymes, Leaders of the New School, The Guru of the group Gangstarr, Pete Rock and CL Smooth, and Mobb Deep (whose latest release entered the Billboard charts at #6 on December 1, 1996). All members of the group, Wu Tang Clan, belong to the Five Percent Nation, including those whose solo work has sold in the millions: Method Man, Ol' Dirty Bastard, Raekwon, and most recently, Ghost Face Killer, whose album Ironman charted at #2 in November [sales?]). The Grammy Award-winning Digable Planets are also part of the Five Percent orbit,6 and the Digables' second release Blowout Comb is loaded with Five-Percent references. In fact, many more noted rappers belong to Five Percent Nation than to Minister Louis Farrakhan's Nation of Islam (NOI).

and

The Five Percent Nation was founded by Clarence 13X, who joined the NOI Temple No. 7 in Harlem in the early 1950s (when it was led by Malcolm X) and became a lieutenant in the Fruit of Islam (the NOI security force) and a student minister. In the early sixties Clarence began to question the NOI doctrine that God had appeared in Detroit in 1930 in the person of Master Farad Muhammad (pronounced Fa-rád). (It was Farad who passed on his teachings to his messenger, Elijah Muhammad.) Clarence 13X reportedly began to doubt that Farad was God, since the NOI taught that the Original (Black) Man was Allah (see Lincoln 1994:69), and Farad looked white (see photo in ???). (Farad, as we will discuss later, was probably an Arab). Clarence 13X began to teach that the black man collectively was God. He was reprimanded in 1963, left the NOI along with a few followers, changed his name from Clarence 13X to Allah, and began preaching to the youth on the streets of Harlem.

[DjSap]

hmm strange i always thought 5%ers were NOI and not the NOG...ah well who gives a fuck...

[bushwacker]

kill whitey!!!

[TDF]

as usual some idiot will come across and blame a religion for something stupid and cause pure pandemonium. The basic principals of the 5 percenters is that they are the 5 percent of the world who are teachers and have self knowledge of the evil that surrounds them and the rest of the world...well,basically SOL

1. That black people are the original people of the planet earth.

2. That black people are the fathers and mothers of civilization.

3. That the science of Supreme Mathematics is the key to
understanding man's relationship to the universe.

4. Islam is a natural way of life, not a religion.

5. That education should be fashioned to enable us to be self
sufficient as a people.

6. That each one should teach one according to their knowledge.

7. That the blackman is god and his proper name is ALLAH. Arm,
Leg, Leg, Arm, Head.

8. That our children are our link to the future and they
must be nurtured, respected, loved, protected and educated.

9. That the unified black family is the vital building block of
the nation.


I wont get too into it but they are a very radical branch-off of the NOI and are not under the control of the Honorable Elijah Muhammad. SOme call it a gang others call it a religion. Their flag is a cescent moon with seven stars which represent the 7 heavens

[Tex Willer]

wtf i thought this thread was about referred webmasters that bring you 5% of everything they earn

that's good money

[XXX_Jman]

Originally posted by nocostporn


uh yeah let's make me out to be stupid for asking about a religion which has been linked to the sniping of 10 people... "indeed" you people need to get your day to day news from some other place then GFY because your lost its a new religion basically being spun off from the nation of islam,people(black males) who consider themselves God

http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion...oldblatt_x.htm


The mainstream media are slowly catching up with the buzz on hip-hop Web sites about a possible connection between John Allen Muhammad, indicted in the Washington-area sniper case, and a virulently racist black group called the Five Percent Nation of Gods and Earths, to which several of today's most popular rap acts have acknowledged longstanding ties.

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The Associated Press has reported that notes left at two shooting scenes contain language and symbols associated with the Five Percenters, who splintered off from the Nation of Islam (NOI) in 1964 and consider themselves a culture, not a faith. Muhammad was once a NOI member, but the FBI (news - web sites) declined to comment on any connection between the sniper's notes and the Five Percenters, whose leaders also did not comment. If the connection is proved true, however, the repercussions will be felt throughout an element of the hip-hop community that already is rife with suspicion and animosity toward white society.

The group's philosophy rejects most accepted authority and history. It teaches that 85% of people are ignorant followers and another 10% try to lead those ignorant masses to enrich themselves. The enlightened Five Percent who remain have true knowledge and must wage war against the 10% for control. The details of what the Five Percenters believe and how they act on those beliefs are disputed. Some in law enforcement deem the group a racist gang. South Carolina's prison system has rated all Five Percenter prisoners security threats.

Black male Five Percenters are ''Gods'' and will refer to themselves as God. One letter from the sniper contained the demand that police call the author ''God'' and a stock Five Percenter phrase, ''word is bond,'' along with five stars, also used by the group. A tarot card left at another shooting stated, ''I am God.''

'Open season'

As the Anti-Defamation League and a few scholars have noted, Five Percenter theory stands behind the apocalyptic visions of race war expressed in the rap music of some of the more influential hip-hop performers. In Goin Bananas, Da Lench Mob raps: ''We're having thoughts of overthrowing the government . . . it's open season on crackers, you know; the morgue will be full of Caucasian John Does . . . oh my god, Allah, have mercy; I'm killing them devils because they're not worthy to walk the earth with the original black man . . . I won't rest until they're all dead.''

Sunz of Man, an offshoot group of the wildly popular Wu-Tang Clan, repeats similar ideas in the song Can I See You: ''Camouflaged for the mission; use your third eye to see the Israelite; detect those who tell lies . . . carry .45s in these last days and times . . . I was born to survive a soldier, and I strive, with a duty to civilize these 85s . . . an original black man with a plan to run these devils off our . . . land; now listen real close while I explain the operation.''

A rap by the group Brand Nubian is even less subtle: ''It's all about brothers rising up, wising up, sizing up a situation, but getting fit within the Nation . . . I sing sounds of math on behalf of the Gods and the Earths . . . now face your maker and take your last breath; the time is half past death.''

Wide influence

These acts' appeal is largely limited to hard-core hip-hop fans, but even artists who've crossed over to mainstream audiences and whose videos turn up regularly on MTV, such as rappers Busta Rhymes, Rakim and Nas, have flirted with Five Percenter concepts. What's unnerving is that these acts are not only among the most critically acclaimed hip-hop stars, but they are acclaimed precisely because they're considered the most politically sophisticated rappers.

The question, of course, isn't whether hip-hop performers have a constitutional right to express crazy, or even racially incendiary, ideas. Clearly, they do. The question is to what degree their fans are taking them seriously as they try literally to drum an us-against-them mind-set into young black people.

Pubic Enemy's Chuck D., the first overtly political rapper, once called hip-hop ''the black CNN.'' It will be a terrible development if it turns out that John Allen Muhammad was tuning in for the news.

Well for someone who asked about it ( "I dont know too much about"), you certainly seem to know a lot more than anyone else..

[cali_22]

what was that ??

cali_22


www.hoes.ca

[TDF]

Originally posted by cali_22
what was that ??

cali_22


www.hoes.ca

its islamic for "content theif"

[SykkBoy]

won't it be fun when some of these guys and the neo-nazis (don't think they are going away anytime soon, they're just bidding their time waiting for their own version of Helter Skelter)
start their own little race wars? I say we take them all and drop them off in the mountains and let them duke it out amongst the bears and the bunnies........

[-=HOAX=-]

Originally posted by toodamnfli
as usual some idiot will come across and blame a religion for something stupid and cause pure pandemonium. The basic principals of the 5 percenters is that they are the 5 percent of the world who are teachers and have self knowledge of the evil that surrounds them and the rest of the world...well,basically SOL

1. That black people are the original people of the planet earth.

2. That black people are the fathers and mothers of civilization.

3. That the science of Supreme Mathematics is the key to
understanding man's relationship to the universe.

4. Islam is a natural way of life, not a religion.

5. That education should be fashioned to enable us to be self
sufficient as a people.

6. That each one should teach one according to their knowledge.

7. That the blackman is god and his proper name is ALLAH. Arm,
Leg, Leg, Arm, Head.

8. That our children are our link to the future and they
must be nurtured, respected, loved, protected and educated.

9. That the unified black family is the vital building block of
the nation.


I wont get too into it but they are a very radical branch-off of the NOI and are not under the control of the Honorable Elijah Muhammad. SOme call it a gang others call it a religion. Their flag is a cescent moon with seven stars which represent the 7 heavens

I think for the most part, that if these tenets were colorblind, the world would be a better place...

[LBBV]

Wonder how many of these rappers are part of the group because it's cool and sells CDs?

[TDF]

Originally posted by LBBV
Wonder how many of these rappers are part of the group because it's cool and sells CDs?

of course not. Its for the protection of the 5 percenters...simple payoff

[Pornwolf]

Originally posted by LBBV
Wonder how many of these rappers are part of the group because it's cool and sells CDs?

0

[Pornwolf]

Originally posted by toodamnfli



of course not. Its for the protection of the 5 percenters...simple payoff

Huh? Not here in these parts. Simple street corner theology that gets adopted by weak minds. LA has gangs for the weak minds to bond and find strength in a like minded support group. NY gangs died out in the 70's but the need for a like minded group for young males to identify with never died. Instead of rehashing the violent gang era the local youth picked up the 5% nation and ran with it through the 80's and into the 90's.

It's popularity is thinning out dramatically among rappers from what I see.