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  • Alex
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    • Jun 2004
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    #1

    Video Editing help

    I am a newb when it comes to this and it has nothing to do with my business.
    This is for personal shit only so i use windows movie maker which has never done me wrong.

    I never had problem wiht the first version but when i installed SP2 and got the new version i have issues. When i try trasnfering from my DV camera to the computer via Windows Movie Maker a few minutes into the tape the computer starts stalling the the video and doesnt capture it all.

    Someone find a solution or reccommend a diff program i can download so i can upload the video in .mpeg format or osmething and then just trasnfer it over to my collection and start editing it.
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  • EdgeXXX
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    • Oct 2005
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    #2
    Actually, depending on your PC, the FIRST thing that I would recommend is more RAM.
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    • Alex
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      #3
      got enough ram. A new video software for a temp use is better.

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      • tony299
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        • Aug 2002
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        #4
        sony movie studio its cheap and every effective.

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        • Alex
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          #5
          Temp use. Something free and quick.
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          • EdgeXXX
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            • Oct 2005
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            #6
            Originally posted by Alex
            got enough ram. A new video software for a temp use is better.

            Thanks.


            Ok, answer these and I'll recommend a new editing app for you:

            1. What is your CPU type, CPU speed, and amount of RAM?

            2. Will you be editing HD?
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            • RawAlex
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              • Oct 2003
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              Alex, the issue you are seeing is because at a certain point, the system isn't polling the port fast enough to capture the video. Usually this happens over time as the longer you capture, the more ram gets used up, the less buffer you have to work with, and sooner or later the system is caught having to write out to disk and it doesn't look at the video port for a few frames. It can take a few more frames to resysnc and keep capturing.

              This is often the case using built in Firewire ports. Better software will work better to reduce this problem, as they will better manage memory and such.

              How fast is your PC?

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              • Alex
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                • Jun 2004
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                #8
                Originally posted by RawAlex
                Alex, the issue you are seeing is because at a certain point, the system isn't polling the port fast enough to capture the video. Usually this happens over time as the longer you capture, the more ram gets used up, the less buffer you have to work with, and sooner or later the system is caught having to write out to disk and it doesn't look at the video port for a few frames. It can take a few more frames to resysnc and keep capturing.

                This is often the case using built in Firewire ports. Better software will work better to reduce this problem, as they will better manage memory and such.

                How fast is your PC?

                Alex
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                Thank god cause that was the only thing helpful.


                Looks like what you said makes the most sense.
                So lets say i have a 35 min video. If i edit in 4 min portions and do it 9 times would that change anything?

                This P.C is a piece of shit and it is time for an upgrade.

                640MB of ram. What if i have no other programs running?


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                • Dirty D
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                  • May 2002
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Alex
                  This P.C is a piece of shit and it is time for an upgrade.

                  640MB of ram. What if i have no other programs running?

                  -Alex
                  Dude you are straight up wasting your time using a PC like that for video editing and rendering...

                  Time for a new PC with at least 1GB of RAM.
                  Processors with Dual Core or at least Hyperthreading make rendering much faster.

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                  • EdgeXXX
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                    • Oct 2005
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by dustman
                    Dude you are straight up wasting your time using a PC like that for video editing and rendering...

                    Time for a new PC with at least 1GB of RAM.
                    Processors with Dual Core or at least Hyperthreading make rendering much faster.
                    Exactly... Personally, I wouldn't touch a task like that with less than 2GB DDR; talk about painfully slow.
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                    • Alex
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                      • Jun 2004
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by dustman
                      Dude you are straight up wasting your time using a PC like that for video editing and rendering...

                      Time for a new PC with at least 1GB of RAM.
                      Processors with Dual Core or at least Hyperthreading make rendering much faster.
                      Because i already told you. 99% of the shit i do my this computer has nothing to do with video editing.

                      I am not going to spend more than i did on my video camera to be able to edit once every two years. I would waste more time and money. I upgrade my computer when i cant do essential tasks on it. But it does exceptinally well for what is needed.

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                      • Kroy
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                        • Sep 2005
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                        #12
                        Download the trial version of Adobe Premiere Pro. Will not be all that pretty with low RAM but it should do.
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                        • Alex
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Kroy
                          Download the trial version of Adobe Premiere Pro. Will not be all that pretty with low RAM but it should do.
                          Will check it out for next time. Thanks.
                          Right now i just capture it in 3 min portions
                          Taking about an 50 min to capture 35 min of film.
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                          • EdgeXXX
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                            • Oct 2005
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Alex
                            Because i already told you. 99% of the shit i do my this computer has nothing to do with video editing.

                            I am not going to spend more than i did on my video camera to be able to edit once every two years. I would waste more time and money. I upgrade my computer when i cant do essential tasks on it. But it does exceptinally well for what is needed.

                            Why buy a fucking Ferrari if you are never going to go past 110MPH?

                            I agree with you. Unfortunately, Video and DV editing is one of the most CPU and RAM intensive things that you can do on a computer and that system doesn't meet the Minimum requirements of many of the editing apps.
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                            • Alex
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                              • Jun 2004
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by EdgeXXX
                              I agree with you. Unfortunately, Video and DV editing is one of the most CPU and RAM intensive things that you can do on a computer and that system doesn't meet the Minimum requirements of most of the editing apps.
                              I may upgrade this machine. But fuck 2 gigs of Ram. Becasue thats counter-productive.

                              See the way it works with me is i go to Fry's
                              Buy more Ram, and then while im at it a New video card.
                              Then i get home and i say lets test it out, and i reinstall counterstrike again.

                              Next 72 hours im glued to my seat and only when a relative who thinks i am dead sends police to my house will i stop playing.

                              Its a horrible cycle which i have faced many times.
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                              • EdgeXXX
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                                • Oct 2005
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                                #16
                                Originally posted by Alex
                                I may upgrade this machine. But fuck 2 gigs of Ram. Becasue thats counter-productive.

                                See the way it works with me is i go to Fry's
                                Buy more Ram, and then while im at it a New video card.
                                Then i get home and i say lets test it out, and i reinstall counterstrike again.

                                Next 72 hours im glued to my seat and only when a relative who thinks i am dead sends police to my house will i stop playing.

                                Its a horrible cycle which i have faced many times.


                                Mmmmmm... been there before









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                                • Alex
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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by EdgeXXX
                                  Mmmmmm... been there before










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                                  • RawAlex
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                                    • Oct 2003
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                                    #18
                                    Alex, 640MB of ram, well, FORGET IT. You could try to capture it in sections less than your drop out, but I would hate to see what you render time is going to be on your end product (it will likely be measured in DAYS, not hours).

                                    Spew $500 and get a reasonable machine... these are NOT the best video machines, but they will get you closer to "reasonable":

                                    http://www1.us.dell.com/content/prod...=19&l=en&s=dhs

                                    Make sure you have an ass load of ram (my editing machine has 4 gigs, and the extra rendering units for after effects all have at least 1 gig).

                                    Alex

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