Affiliate program rules - initial or last set cookie, which is fair?

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  • chupachups
    Confirmed User
    • Dec 2002
    • 6576

    #1

    Affiliate program rules - initial or last set cookie, which is fair?

    Who has the right to the last sale - the webmaster who referred the customer the first time, or the webmaster that referred the client the last time? So most of you would probably say "last set cookie, what else?", but.....? What about products with alot of repeat buys/returning customers? What about the affiliate "owning" his clients from their first sale?

    Input appreciated, thx!
  • Jace
    FBOP Class Of 2013
    • Jan 2004
    • 35562

    #2
    I may get beat down for this, but I personally believe the credit should go to the person who made the sale click

    just because someone sent someone 6 months ago, doesn't mean I should get credit for the visitor I sent today

    It would bug me more if I knew that someone my sale from a cookie 30 days old, than if I missed a sale because of a cookie that was 30 days old

    damn, all this cookie talk is making me hungry

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    • chupachups
      Confirmed User
      • Dec 2002
      • 6576

      #3
      Originally posted by Jace
      I may get beat down for this, but I personally believe the credit should go to the person who made the sale click

      just because someone sent someone 6 months ago, doesn't mean I should get credit for the visitor I sent today

      It would bug me more if I knew that someone my sale from a cookie 30 days old, than if I missed a sale because of a cookie that was 30 days old

      damn, all this cookie talk is making me hungry
      I hear you... there are a lot of pros/cons with both cases, and its a very delicate (no pun) decision.

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      • 2HousePlague
        CURATOR
        • Jul 2004
        • 14572

        #4
        Opinions vary on this question.

        On the one hand, there is *precedence* -- meaning who referred FIRST.

        On the other hand, there is *currency* -- meaning who referred LAST.

        I, personally, don't see the variable "X days post sale" as the measure of whether you should get paid, if you referred that customer.

        Programs talk a whole lotta shit about *retention*. But that don't mean shit to me if they have a "no-pay-me" out clause they can exercise if I am owed too much.

        I would say "Remember me, I am yout AFFILIATE... I want to share revenues with you!"
        tada!

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        • studiocritic
          Confirmed User
          • Jun 2005
          • 2442

          #5
          last-touch it how it's done in every single program i've ever promoted, mainstream, grey, or adult.
          254342256

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          • SteveLightspeed
            Confirmed User
            • Jul 2001
            • 7940

            #6
            We do last click too, but we also give our members lifetime passwords. If they quit, and come come back and sign up again as a typein join, we give credit to the original referring affiliate. This method is MUCH more accurate than using cookies.

            Steve Lightspeed
            Abra-cadabra!

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            • Jace
              FBOP Class Of 2013
              • Jan 2004
              • 35562

              #7
              Originally posted by SteveLightspeed
              We do last click too, but we also give our members lifetime passwords. If they quit, and come come back and sign up again as a typein join, we give credit to the original referring affiliate. This method is MUCH more accurate than using cookies.

              Steve Lightspeed
              that is a great idea steve, can I ask how many members return over and over? I can see it being a lot, but I might be wrong

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              • SteveLightspeed
                Confirmed User
                • Jul 2001
                • 7940

                #8
                Originally posted by Jace
                that is a great idea steve, can I ask how many members return over and over? I can see it being a lot, but I might be wrong
                Since we implemented this last October, we've given credit for about 5% of our total joins to the original referring affiliates.
                Abra-cadabra!

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                • chupachups
                  Confirmed User
                  • Dec 2002
                  • 6576

                  #9
                  Originally posted by SteveLightspeed
                  We do last click too, but we also give our members lifetime passwords. If they quit, and come come back and sign up again as a typein join, we give credit to the original referring affiliate. This method is MUCH more accurate than using cookies.

                  Steve Lightspeed
                  Sounds like a very good idea well worth considering!

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                  • studiocritic
                    Confirmed User
                    • Jun 2005
                    • 2442

                    #10
                    Originally posted by SteveLightspeed
                    Since we implemented this last October, we've given credit for about 5% of our total joins to the original referring affiliates.
                    good info.. thanks for sharing steve
                    254342256

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                    • Tempest
                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                      • May 2004
                      • 10217

                      #11
                      The last time... The first 20 guys peaked his interest, but it was my ad that got him to pull out the credit card. I don't agree with the lightspeedcash re-signup thing. Again, if it's my ad that finally got him to spend the money, I should get the money if he comes back. The first guy failed to get him to spend the money and so other than branding, he didn't make any cash for lightspeed. Given another 10 guys might also have sent the surfer to help with branding, why didn't they get a share as well?

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                      • Babagirls
                        Text Writer
                        • Feb 2001
                        • 18812

                        #12
                        initial.

                        i believe in the you got the click-you get that sale. thats just me though.




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                        • SteveLightspeed
                          Confirmed User
                          • Jul 2001
                          • 7940

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Tempest
                          The last time... The first 20 guys peaked his interest, but it was my ad that got him to pull out the credit card. I don't agree with the lightspeedcash re-signup thing. Again, if it's my ad that finally got him to spend the money, I should get the money if he comes back. The first guy failed to get him to spend the money and so other than branding, he didn't make any cash for lightspeed. Given another 10 guys might also have sent the surfer to help with branding, why didn't they get a share as well?
                          I might not have explained well enough, but we reattach affiliates to surfers who signed up again as a typein --- any member who comes in from an affiliate is credited to the last affiliate.
                          Abra-cadabra!

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                          • SmokeyTheBear
                            ►SouthOfHeaven
                            • Jun 2004
                            • 28609

                            #14
                            awhile ago i noticed a disturbing trend of high traffic tgp's iframeing sponsor pages , the only reason i could see was to set cookies for these sites so if the user signed up thru a diff affiliates gallery on their tgp they would make the sale..

                            not sure if anyone understands what i mean/said but..
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                            • Tempest
                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                              • May 2004
                              • 10217

                              #15
                              Originally posted by SteveLightspeed
                              I might not have explained well enough, but we reattach affiliates to surfers who signed up again as a typein --- any member who comes in from an affiliate is credited to the last affiliate.
                              Ah... ok I misunderstood then.

                              I just recently became an affiliate and I've got a bunch of things in the pipe.. I'm REALLY looking forward to generating some sales. Not sure about the rest of the girls, but I've been preping some stuff for Courtney and I have a really good feeling about her.

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                              • Tempest
                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                • May 2004
                                • 10217

                                #16
                                Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
                                awhile ago i noticed a disturbing trend of high traffic tgp's iframeing sponsor pages , the only reason i could see was to set cookies for these sites so if the user signed up thru a diff affiliates gallery on their tgp they would make the sale..

                                not sure if anyone understands what i mean/said but..
                                If it's the last cookie that makes the sale, how would this override it? I know some guys are doing this for SEO reasons although the benifits of doing that may be gone now.

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                                • SomeCreep
                                  :glugglug
                                  • Mar 2003
                                  • 26118

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by chupachups
                                  So most of you would probably say "last set cookie, what else?", but.....?

                                  What about products with alot of repeat buys/returning customers? What about the affiliate "owning" his clients from their first sale?
                                  last set cookie, what else?

                                  The affiliate only owns the client in recurring programs.

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