Shooting again?

[Simon-interaid]

Just heard on the news some kid went on a shooting rampage in Oklahoma.


2 dead 6 wounded.

Maybe its time for tougher gun laws?

[SetTheWorldonFire]

here we go!

[frankfortuna]

[Sly_RJ]

Originally posted by Simon-interaid
Just heard on the news some kid went on a shooting rampage in Oklahoma.


2 dead 6 wounded.

Maybe its time for tougher gun laws?

Maybe it's time to start using the ruler on kids in school again.

[pr0]

Originally posted by Simon-interaid
Just heard on the news some kid went on a shooting rampage in Oklahoma.


2 dead 6 wounded.

Maybe its time for tougher gun laws?

excuse me...do you live in the U.S.?

you already have tough gun laws in canada...so maybe its time you go back to suckling the maple syrup out of moms teet.

[Brown Bear]

Have you seen this yet?

Bowling For Columbine

[Spoonie Luv]

Originally posted by Brown Bear
Have you seen this yet?

Bowling For Columbine

Don't mistake hype for journalism

[nocostporn]

Originally posted by Simon-interaid

Maybe its time for tougher gun laws?

The government has already got to you with that line huh..thats the plan

[untitled]

Originally posted by nocostporn



The government has already got to you with that line huh..thats the plan

yeah we need our guns, what if the government ordered the military to attack civilians? or what if america was invaded?

OMG i'm so worried!

[CDSmith]

The government should announce "All civilians with spotless criminal records will be issued a hand gun for personal protection"

Making it tough for innocent people to own a gun is stupid. The crooks buy them illegally quite easily, so all gun control does is make the public easier to rob, rape and pillage. Stupid.

[BJ]

guns are good........ bad parenting, well, that's plain ignorance.

[Rocky]

Originally posted by pr0
you already have tough gun laws in canada...so maybe its time you go back to suckling the maple syrup out of moms teet.

thanks for reminding me

gotta invite mom over for pancakes today

[drunkdollars]

Is rocky mrs Sin?

If so congrats on the future jnr Sin
and hi long time no talk
Taren is available for shopping any time

[digi]

maybe bush should attack american highschools instead of Iraq.. seems psychos at schools kills more americans than Saddam.

[nuclei]

Gun Control is a good thing....

being able to hit what you aim at rocks!

[Joe Sixpack]

Originally posted by Spoonie Luv


Don't mistake hype for journalism

Huh?

[UnseenWorld]

Originally posted by Simon-interaid
Just heard on the news some kid went on a shooting rampage in Oklahoma.

2 dead 6 wounded.

Maybe its time for tougher gun laws?

Gun deaths per 100,000:

U.S.A. 14.24
Mexico 12.69
Argentina 8.93
Northern Ireland 6.63
Switzerland 5.31
France 5.15
Canada 4.31
Israel 2.91
Australia 2.65
Italy 2.44
New Zealand 2.38
Denmark 2.09
Sweden 1.92
Germany 1.24
Ireland 0.97
Spain 0.78
Netherlands 0.70
Scotland 0.54
England and Wales 0.41

Canada has about as many guns per capita as the US, but 2/3 less gun related deaths. Even with all the strife in Israel, it has only 20% of the gun-related deaths of the U.S.

The problem obviously isn't guns, it's Americans.

[Brown Bear]

Originally posted by UnseenWorld

Canada has about as many guns per capita as the US, but 2/3 less gun related deaths. Even with all the strife in Israel, it has only 20% of the gun-related deaths of the U.S.

The problem obviously isn't guns, it's Americans.

Thats exactly what the movie Bowling For Columbine is about.

Why does the US have so many gun murders?

[Pornwolf]

Originally posted by UnseenWorld
The problem obviously isn't guns, it's Americans.

Yeah you are right. You wanna make something out of it? Huh?

Don't make me pop the trunk on yer candy asses.

[Joe Sixpack]

Originally posted by CDSmith
The government should announce "All civilians with spotless criminal records will be issued a hand gun for personal protection"

Making it tough for innocent people to own a gun is stupid. The crooks buy them illegally quite easily, so all gun control does is make the public easier to rob, rape and pillage. Stupid.

Y'know I keep hearing this argument against gun control again and again and every time I'm less convinced. It seems to me the argument has quite a few flaws.

I'd say a sizable proportion of your murders by firearm every year are committed by people with no criminal record and up until the muder itself no intent to commit a crime. Many of these offenses are spur of the moment acts and ownership of a weapon or the ability to buy one easily makes them far more likely to occur.

Also, surely fewer guns in the community would reduce firearm death by accident as well as firearm suicides.

I've never needed a gun and I don't know anyone who owns one. I've never seen one used in the commission of a crime and neither has anyone I know. Not being able to own one has certainly had no impact on my life whatsoever.

Then you need a law introduced that says any crime that is committed with a firearm is punishable by a mandatory life sentence.

I'm almost certain you would see instances of gun related crime plummet.

[Seaz]

what is up with the kill ratio these days cant these kids point a shot .... i mean 2 day 6 injured how hard is it to put 1 bullet in the head 1 in the heart..... dont they watch the history channel or something

[Cal]

Originally posted by Spoonie Luv


Don't mistake hype for journalism

Does the film claim to be a documentary? I'll try not to mistake ignorance for arrogance.

Propaganda? Or facts.

Ironically one of my friends from Vancouver said there was a shooting downtown tonight, one of the few a year that they have. Canada has 7 million guns, 10 million people, and something like SEVENTY gun deaths a year. We have eleven thousand. Whatever the solution is, we need to be working towards it.

C.

[Amputate Your Head]

Originally posted by Simon-interaid

Maybe its time for tougher gun laws?

fuck you AND your stinkin' gun laws... punk ass.

[Brown Bear]

Originally posted by Cal
Canada has 7 million guns, 10 million people, and something like SEVENTY gun deaths a year. We have eleven thousand. Whatever the solution is, we need to be working towards it.

C.

Canada has 31 million people 10 million families and 7 million guns.

[Brown Bear]

Every week, the US has more gun deaths than Canada has in an entire year.

[Seaz]

Look you wanna know what the key is.... sure not having guns is nice but in canada we have hunting rifles.... in the us you have AK47 M16 UZI these arent to kill a rabit or to defend yourself there to go out and kill people .

Look lets get rid of guns is great but lets start with the assault weapons first

[Brown Bear]

Originally posted by Seaz
Look you wanna know what the key is.... sure not having guns is nice but in canada we have hunting rifles.... in the us you have AK47 M16 UZI these arent to kill a rabit or to defend yourself there to go out and kill people .

Look lets get rid of guns is great but lets start with the assault weapons first

Good point.

Nobody needs an AK47 anymore than they need their own SCUD missiles. They're only good for killing humans.

[UnseenWorld]

Originally posted by Seaz
Look you wanna know what the key is.... sure not having guns is nice but in canada we have hunting rifles.... in the us you have AK47 M16 UZI these arent to kill a rabit or to defend yourself there to go out and kill people .

Look lets get rid of guns is great but lets start with the assault weapons first

I'd be willing to bet that assaut rifles and other rapid-fire weapons account for very few gun deaths. Most people killed by a gun in the US a shot with a cheap pistol.

[jqw736145]

Originally posted by frankfortuna

Moses!

[UnseenWorld]

Originally posted by Brown Bear


Good point.

Nobody needs an AK47 anymore than they need their own SCUD missiles. They're only good for killing humans.

Scud missile? The suitcase A-bomb is what has the government sweating now. And unlike a truck full of explosives as in Oklahoma City, such a bomb WILL evaporate all the physical evidence along with the explosion. We will literally have NO CLUE who blew St. Louis off the map unless someone takes credit for it.

[Manny The Freak]

They`re back!

[Machete_]

Are we gonna have en new post every time some american crackhead shoot somebody now?

[playa]

Originally posted by PureMeds
guns are good........ bad parenting, well, that's plain ignorance.

good point, bad parents should not own guns

[jqw736145]

Originally posted by ebus_dk
Are we gonna have en new post every time some american crackhead shoot somebody now?

yes

[quiet]

from my warm, mittened hands...

[DrGuile]

To Quote that Michael Moores fella:

"Of course, had Congress not caved in to the NRA we would have known after the first HOUR of the first day of the killings three weeks ago that those bullets were coming out of a rifle that belonged to John Williams/Mohammad. How would we know this? It's right there in the state records in New Jersey: this gun was purchased this past July, under the name of John Mohammad!

Many more people died needlessly in the days and weeks after that first hour of the shootings, and every one of their deaths could have probably been prevented had we had a national ballistics fingerprinting data base.

Thank you, Mr. Heston for this unnecessary carnage. Thank you, Mr. Bush, for supporting Mr. Heston and his group's agenda -- which protects only the criminals.

And thank you, Bushmaster Firearms, Inc., for providing the gun used to shoot the 13 people in the DC area. Bushmaster's president, Richard E. Dyke, was the Maine finance chairman of George W. Bush's 2000 Presidential campaign. According to Business Week, Dyke had to step down as Bush's finance chair "after reporters began quizzing him about his business dealings. Bushmaster Firearms Inc., is notorious for using loopholes to sidestep a 1994 federal ban on assault rifles." Bush and Bushmaster. Too tragically perfect. "

[DrGuile]

also, I believe the difference between Canada gun's death and the USA is handguns.

quite simply.

Ive never seen a handgun.... I dont know anyone that owns one... they are very rare in Canada... and thank God for that.

[.:Frog:.]

Originally posted by UnseenWorld
The problem obviously isn't guns, it's Americans.

Nah that isn't true.
The problem is the type of gun.

The gun owners in Canada own rifles or shotguns for hunting animals, and we don't carry them around very often. In the US many people carry handguns so they always have a gun with them.

That is half the problem, the other problem is Americans being more violent.
More killers and idiots in the US then Canada for sure.

[jqw736145]

Originally posted by Amputate Your Head

fuck you AND your stinkin' gun laws... punk ass.

and which gun laws would they be?

[SR]

It's pretty clear that the countries where you are allowed to have a gun have a much higher amount of gun deads.

I don't see why americans want to keep their guns so badly.

[jqw736145]

Originally posted by SR
I don't see why americans want to keep their guns so badly.

keeps population growth under control

[Funkito]

I don't see why americans want to keep their guns so badly.

Go see Bowling For Columbine. It ain't just about new gun laws (which won't solve the problem much anyways). The movie looks into that question more than anything else--what are we so fucking afraid of? Where does this obsession with violent self-defense come from?

Fuck if I know.

[redmf]

Maybe we should put these people on trial, convict them, and hang the sob's. I could give a shit what made them pull the trigger, they did it now HANG the useless bastards!

[jqw736145]

Originally posted by redmf
Maybe we should put these people on trial, convict them, and hang the sob's. I could give a shit what made them pull the trigger, they did it now HANG the useless bastards!

yes, you're right. capital punishment has been proven to work

[UnseenWorld]

Originally posted by DrGuile
To Quote that Michael Moores fella:

"Of course, had Congress not caved in to the NRA we would have known after the first HOUR of the first day of the killings three weeks ago that those bullets were coming out of a rifle that belonged to John Williams/Mohammad. How would we know this? It's right there in the state records in New Jersey: this gun was purchased this past July, under the name of John Mohammad!

Duh! Do you really believe John Mohammed would have bought the gun legally if that procedure had been in effect?

No, he would have bought a stolen gun clandestinely, which is how a lot of the guns obtained for crime are obtained.

If that procedure had been in effect, the gun would have been traced to a Joe Shmoe who would likely tell authorities that the gun was among a number of things stolen in a burglary.

[Sly_RJ]

I am truly amazed. I have never seen so many gun control advocates admit that people kill people, instead of their former argument, guns kill people. This is amazing.

And yes, Americans are fucked up. Stupid parents everywhere, and they keep breeding like fucking rabbits. More bad parents added to the population. Yay.

In the US many people carry handguns so they always have a gun with them.

I know many, many people with guns. But I don't know any that carry theirs around with them so that they "always" have a gun on hand. Where did you find this statistic? It was my understanding that carrying a gun, without a special permit (which is hard to get), is a very bad idea that can get you in some deep shit. But of course, since many people follow their own personal laws, some still carry their guns.

So, now that we've established that people have no problem breaking the law when it comes to safety, how would gun laws help again? If guns were banned tomorrow, there are many, many neighborhoods and cities you would never catch me in again.

What so many people don't realize, is in order for a law to work, it must be legitimate. The banning of guns would never become legitimate in the United States, just like pot being illegal, people will still do it. So why bother? The same people that argue for gun control are arguing for legalized pot... am I the only one seeing the irony here?

[UnseenWorld]

Originally posted by .:Frog:.

Nah that isn't true.
The problem is the type of gun.

The gun owners in Canada own rifles or shotguns for hunting animals, and we don't carry them around very often. In the US many people carry handguns so they always have a gun with them.

That is half the problem, the other problem is Americans being more violent.
More killers and idiots in the US then Canada for sure.

I don't know what kind of logic they teach in your part of the world, but you start out arguing that it's wrong that the problem isn't guns, it's Americans, but then you turn around and argue my point!

[Webby]

"Gun Control" Love that expression! Lends some credibility with words! *lol*

Obviously another US euphemism (like "collateral damage" blah) which means there ain't any "control" - just a fucking joke!

We got expressions like "we need our guns" - yea OK!:-) Nuff said!

[eroswebmaster]

Originally posted by untitled


yeah we need our guns, what if the government ordered the military to attack civilians? or what if america was invaded?

OMG i'm so worried!

Dipshits like you won't understand the whole camel getting it's nose into the tent analogy so I won't try to explain it.

[Sly_RJ]

Originally posted by Webby
We got expressions like "we need our guns" - yea OK!:-) Nuff said!

Just leave me alone. I need my pot. It doesn't hurt anyone if I use it responsibly. I'm responsible. I need my pot.