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  • dissipate
    The Dirty Frenchman
    • Nov 2005
    • 8904

    #1

    Hardware Question

    So i got my little brother a new video card for x-mas, plugged it in, and the video wouldnt come through on the card, so i plug it back into the onboard video - and that wont work now either. I now know i should have disabled onboard video in the BIOS - but i have no clue why the onboard wouldnt be working now? (removed the new card).... the machine powers on, disks spin... everything seems right..

    Any ideas?
  • PrintAdult
    Confirmed User
    • Aug 2005
    • 845

    #2
    You may need to reload the drivers for it. Not sure. Weird

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    • dissipate
      The Dirty Frenchman
      • Nov 2005
      • 8904

      #3
      Originally posted by PrintAdult
      You may need to reload the drivers for it. Not sure. Weird
      Hard to do when i cant get video output from the on board or the new card , lol.

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      • dissipate
        The Dirty Frenchman
        • Nov 2005
        • 8904

        #4
        I also noticed that the keyboard lights (num lock, caps lock) do not come on at boot - i suppose the bios isnt even booting?

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        • Dirty F
          Too lazy to set a custom title
          • Jul 2001
          • 59204

          #5
          format c:

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          • dissipate
            The Dirty Frenchman
            • Nov 2005
            • 8904

            #6
            Originally posted by Franck
            format c:
            sure if the video would work

            just trying to get my kid brother to the point where he can play WoW.lol

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            • Yngwie
              I am an Alien from space
              • May 2003
              • 11118

              #7
              is the video card agp or pci-e? what kind of motherboard is it?
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              • geedub
                Confirmed User
                • Jun 2005
                • 3489

                #8
                sounds like a driver issue with windows now.. dont listen to that format c: thats the laziest way to do anything. try pulling the battery out of the mb for like 5 mins. in most cases that will reset bios
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                • Pete-KT
                  Workin With The Devil
                  • Oct 2004
                  • 51532

                  #9
                  open up the case and do the bios reset, usually its a jumper you need to move onto the reset pins and that should fix it

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                  • dissipate
                    The Dirty Frenchman
                    • Nov 2005
                    • 8904

                    #10
                    Originally posted by geedub
                    sounds like a driver issue with windows now.. dont listen to that format c: thats the laziest way to do anything. try pulling the battery out of the mb for like 5 mins. in most cases that will reset bios

                    i wouldnt be able to reformat if i wanted to - i have NO VIDEO! lol

                    I think resetting the BIOS may be a good bet here.... now to figure out where the hell the bios battery is

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                    • Yngwie
                      I am an Alien from space
                      • May 2003
                      • 11118

                      #11
                      maybe it's not even the video card.. it may be the ram.. if 1 of the stick is bad you won't get any video. I had that problem when I had bought new ram. 1 of the dimms was fucked so I got no video.. just remove the ram and try it 1 dimm at a time to see what happens.
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                      • Yngwie
                        I am an Alien from space
                        • May 2003
                        • 11118

                        #12
                        if it was a driver issue you would still get video. if it really was an issue with drivers you would get video on boot up til it gets to loading windows. then it may fuck up.
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                        • Spudstr
                          Confirmed User
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 2321

                          #13
                          hope you didn't zap the motherboard when you opened itup!
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                          • Yngwie
                            I am an Alien from space
                            • May 2003
                            • 11118

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Spudstr
                            hope you didn't zap the motherboard when you opened itup!

                            that would also be something that may have happened
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                            • dissipate
                              The Dirty Frenchman
                              • Nov 2005
                              • 8904

                              #15
                              nah the mobo is fine, the machine still boots... im thinkin its the bios, it wouldnt be the ram, because it worked fine before i started fiddling with it

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                              • Yngwie
                                I am an Alien from space
                                • May 2003
                                • 11118

                                #16
                                Originally posted by dissipate
                                nah the mobo is fine, the machine still boots... im thinkin its the bios, it wouldnt be the ram, because it worked fine before i started fiddling with it
                                then just reset the bios. take the battery out, put it back it, reboot and see what happens.
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                                • devnull
                                  Registered User
                                  • Dec 2005
                                  • 65

                                  #17
                                  Didn't really read your post fully but make sure you have power from the PSU connected to the GFX card as new ones need their own connection.
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                                  • woj
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                                    • Jul 2002
                                    • 47882

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by devnull
                                    Didn't really read your post fully but make sure you have power from the PSU connected to the GFX card as new ones need their own connection.
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                                    • Yngwie
                                      I am an Alien from space
                                      • May 2003
                                      • 11118

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by devnull
                                      Didn't really read your post fully but make sure you have power from the PSU connected to the GFX card as new ones need their own connection.

                                      that could be it, but why would the onboard video stop working? It wouldn't have affected the onboard video.
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                                      • Ace_luffy
                                        www.creationcrew.com
                                        • Feb 2005
                                        • 12165

                                        #20
                                        i think windows must be detect the new card then.... if yes , install the driver's software .

                                        if not maybe you using a built-in video card which window detect first rather than the new v-card..


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                                        • CheneyRumsfeld
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Sep 2004
                                          • 1341

                                          #21
                                          did you read the manual that came with the new video card?

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                                          • dissipate
                                            The Dirty Frenchman
                                            • Nov 2005
                                            • 8904

                                            #22
                                            So took the BIOS battery out for about 10 minutes - enough time for it to reset if i remember correctly.

                                            The system powers on, but there is no beep through the system speaker when the box powers up. i can hear the hard drive spin up, so all sounds well there. But still no video from the onboard video.....

                                            Any ideas?

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                                            • dissipate
                                              The Dirty Frenchman
                                              • Nov 2005
                                              • 8904

                                              #23
                                              Just tried reseting the CMOS with the jumper... no dice.

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                                              • Yngwie
                                                I am an Alien from space
                                                • May 2003
                                                • 11118

                                                #24
                                                test out the ram for the hell of it. Take all the dimms out and test them 1 at a time.. Maybe it's not the ram, but you never know.
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                                                • Project-Shadow
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Feb 2003
                                                  • 7340

                                                  #25
                                                  I was gonna suggest resetting the cmos but you've already done that.
                                                  I think your mobo has snuffed it. I had the same issue when switching a graphics card, something just died on the mobo and refused to start. Had to get a new one, hopefully thats not the case, but it sounds similar to a problem I had.

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                                                  • dissipate
                                                    The Dirty Frenchman
                                                    • Nov 2005
                                                    • 8904

                                                    #26
                                                    Gonna leave the battery out for the night - 5 minutes probly wasnt enough.

                                                    If not im gonna test the ram.

                                                    If that doesnt work - new Mobo time

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                                                    • potter
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Dec 2004
                                                      • 6559

                                                      #27
                                                      If you can't get into bios when there is no video card connected, then it has nothing to do with the video.

                                                      You fucked something up when installing the new vid card, you either shorted something out on the mobo, or killed the ram or cpu.

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                                                      • dissipate
                                                        The Dirty Frenchman
                                                        • Nov 2005
                                                        • 8904

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by potter
                                                        If you can't get into bios when there is no video card connected, then it has nothing to do with the video.

                                                        You fucked something up when installing the new vid card, you either shorted something out on the mobo, or killed the ram or cpu.
                                                        probly either the RAM or the CPU - because the machine is still booting...

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                                                        • Yngwie
                                                          I am an Alien from space
                                                          • May 2003
                                                          • 11118

                                                          #29
                                                          I kept saying it was the ram.. test out the ram. maybe only 1 dimm is fried so you will know. 1 dimm at a time..
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                                                          • Surferdamian2000
                                                            Registered User
                                                            • Dec 2005
                                                            • 79

                                                            #30
                                                            make sure you plugd power into the gfx card... give us your specs.. maybe your power supply isnt powerfull enough..
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                                                            • Barefootsies
                                                              Choice is an Illusion
                                                              • Feb 2005
                                                              • 42635

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by Surferdamian2000
                                                              make sure you plugd power into the gfx card... give us your specs.. maybe your power supply isnt powerfull enough..
                                                              True dat. I know on the last computer I built, I had to switch out the PS because of the new mobo, and GFX card. They have a min, and I was significantly below it. So that fixed the problem.

                                                              Sounds like some of the other advise given's dead on. You might have shorted something out when switching out cards, or messed up the BIOS setting. Also some of the new GFX cards need to be plugged in to the PS, have additional jumpers, etc.

                                                              best advise would be make sure to check your manuals (mobo/gfx card), and websites to make sure there is nothing small you are forgetting. if it's not that, and you've tried switching between slots, and updated BIOs and all that jazz. You may have shorted something out. But that would be the LAST thing to conclude before exhausting all other options.

                                                              A lot of times with computer stuff, it's something small you just forgot as you were breezing through everything. Hope you work it out brotha.

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