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    Interesting SEO article re Google changes and Analytics' impact

    http://www.site-reference.com/articl...earch-SEO.html
  • xxxjay
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    #2
    thanks for posting that
    http://donttellmehowtoruinmylife.com/ - http://www.jmdigitalmarketing.com/my...s-and-reviews/ - http://www.wouldyouhitit.org - http://shinyobjectreviews.com/

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    • Spud
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      #3
      yep, that's good stuff. thanks

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      • triumph
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        #4
        thanks for the link

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          #5
          ? One-way text links from relevant pages continue to be the most valuable links
          ? Reciprocal linking continue to decline
          ? The 'shotgun' approach to link buying declines
          ? Mass email link requests decline
          ? Free directory submission declines
          ? Niche directory submission increases
          ? Article PR (article submission) increases
          ? Article submission sites (e.g. EzineArticles - http://www.ezinearticles.com , GoArticles - http://www.goarticles.com , and ArticleBlast - http://www.articleblast.com ) play a much bigger and more important role in helping online publishers locate quality articles (due to the increasing article volume)
          ? User popularity is just as important as link popularity, which means:
          - The quality of article PR improves in order to increase site traffic, credibility, and loyalty
          - The quality of website content improves in order to convert traffic and encourage repeat visits

          IF ANYONE NEEDS 110 Articles (300 words each) for only $450, hit me up info AT webmasterlabor DOT com

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          • Sosa
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            #6
            good info there.

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            • Gottis
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              #7
              "With Jagger, Google once again outsmarted huge numbers of SEOs"

              Were you outsmarted xxxjay? Your SEO ain't the trickiest tho, but just curious.
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              • gornyhuy
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                #8
                Do you have sample articles out there so we can see quality of writing?

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                • Hornydog4cooter
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                  #9
                  Goood stuff as allways thanks Gene

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by gornyhuy
                    Do you have sample articles out there so we can see quality of writing?
                    What's your email, I'll send you a writing sample. Email me for a sample: info AT webmasterlabor DOT com

                    We only do mainstream text only

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                    • Jace
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                      #11
                      wow, this is fuckng incredible

                      shit....damn....back to the grind stone

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                      • gornyhuy
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                        #12
                        You've got mail.

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                        • Jace
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                          #13
                          http://www.pandia.com/sew/112-on-the...te-part-1.html

                          from that:

                          In the meanwhile, we?d like to give out a word of caution ? If you have suffered drop in your website rankings, do not do any drastic changes on your website until the Jagger 3 update is fully implemented and stabilized.

                          There is a delicate balance and inter-dependence of all these parameters that can bring back your ranks once the Jagger 3 update is completed.

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                            #14
                            Good link, Jace!



                            Here's the list from PANDIA

                            The changes

                            From what we have studied so far, Google has re-engineered several aspects of its algorithm. Amongst other aspects we will know as things roll out, we believe it has altered the impact of the following:

                            1. Value of incoming links
                            2. Value of anchor text in incoming links
                            3. Content on page of incoming links
                            4. Keyword repetitions in anchor text
                            5. Age of the incoming links
                            6. Nature of sites linking to you
                            7. Directory links
                            8. Speed and volume of incoming links created
                            9. Value of reciprocal links
                            10. Impact of outbound links / links page on your website
                            11. Sandbox effect / age of your site, domain registration date
                            12. Size of your site?s content
                            13. Addition and frequency of fresh content update
                            14. Canonical / sub domains, sub-sub domains
                            15. Multiple domains on same IP numbers
                            16. Duplicate content on same site or on multiple domains
                            17. Over-optimization, excessive text markup
                            18. Irrational use of CSS

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                            • MadCat
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                              • Aug 2002
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Gottis
                              "With Jagger, Google once again outsmarted huge numbers of SEOs"

                              Were you outsmarted xxxjay? Your SEO ain't the trickiest tho, but just curious.
                              Looks like jays-xxx-links took a bad hit.

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                              • Gottis
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                                #16
                                Originally posted by MadCat
                                Looks like jays-xxx-links took a bad hit.
                                Did it? I haven't looked too much yet. What about Hoes.com?
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                                • Gottis
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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by $5 submissions
                                  The changes

                                  From what we have studied so far, Google has re-engineered several aspects of its algorithm. Amongst other aspects we will know as things roll out, we believe it has altered the impact of the following:

                                  1. Value of incoming links
                                  2. Value of anchor text in incoming links
                                  3. Content on page of incoming links
                                  4. Keyword repetitions in anchor text
                                  5. Age of the incoming links
                                  6. Nature of sites linking to you
                                  7. Directory links
                                  8. Speed and volume of incoming links created
                                  9. Value of reciprocal links
                                  10. Impact of outbound links / links page on your website
                                  11. Sandbox effect / age of your site, domain registration date
                                  12. Size of your site?s content
                                  13. Addition and frequency of fresh content update
                                  14. Canonical / sub domains, sub-sub domains
                                  15. Multiple domains on same IP numbers
                                  16. Duplicate content on same site or on multiple domains
                                  17. Over-optimization, excessive text markup
                                  18. Irrational use of CSS
                                  Talk about one useless fucking list. What genius wrote that up...
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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Gottis
                                    Talk about one useless fucking list. What genius wrote that up...
                                    The Pandia list seems kinda shotgun, no?

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                                    • MadCat
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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Gottis
                                      Did it? I haven't looked too much yet. What about Hoes.com?
                                      hoes.com / penisbot are doing good.

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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Gottis
                                        Talk about one useless fucking list. What genius wrote that up...
                                        That's the Pandia list. There's other lists out there. It's all guesswork though at this point.

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                                        • ilbb
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                                          #21
                                          thanks for posting that interesting info

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                                          • nico-t
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                                            #22
                                            the guessing in the first article posted doesnt look too good for my sites:
                                            "7) Overall Blog demotions? "
                                            But right now theyre still on or near the top.

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                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by nico-t
                                              the guessing in the first article posted doesnt look too good for my sites:
                                              "7) Overall Blog demotions? "
                                              But right now theyre still on or near the top.
                                              The ones based on REAL content should be okay.

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                                              • crockett
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                                                • May 2003
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                                                #24
                                                All I know is I'm back on the top with my top keywords, so I'm happy once again.. Now I just need freaking yahoo to respect my authority..

                                                I can't get yahoo figured our for the same site.. I have several nice directory listings, but yahoo is ignoring my site on the search end and just throwing me crumbs.
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                                                • xxxjay
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Gottis
                                                  "With Jagger, Google once again outsmarted huge numbers of SEOs"

                                                  Were you outsmarted xxxjay? Your SEO ain't the trickiest tho, but just curious.
                                                  I'm actually on a traffic upswing
                                                  http://donttellmehowtoruinmylife.com/ - http://www.jmdigitalmarketing.com/my...s-and-reviews/ - http://www.wouldyouhitit.org - http://shinyobjectreviews.com/

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                                                  • xxxjay
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                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by MadCat
                                                    Looks like jays-xxx-links took a bad hit.
                                                    I'm actually on a traffic upswing...sorry. Alexa does not work with Mozilla...my traffic is fine.
                                                    http://donttellmehowtoruinmylife.com/ - http://www.jmdigitalmarketing.com/my...s-and-reviews/ - http://www.wouldyouhitit.org - http://shinyobjectreviews.com/

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                                                    • Gottis
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                                                      #27
                                                      Show's still not over, my listings are flying all over the place right now.
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                                                      • Gottis
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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by xxxjay
                                                        I'm actually on a traffic upswing
                                                        Cool, your site is pretty "in there" though with all them pages and inbound links and years to its name. Not to mention the <noframes> tags
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                                                        • Mighty Chin
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                                                          #29
                                                          Nice article
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                                                          • angelro
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                                                            #30
                                                            Hello guys.First of all that article was written in a hurry... why ? Because Jagger 3 has not finished yet.. SEO guys around the world still notice changes in their stats... so you cannot say something for sure untill the update is finished... then I saw a really stupid thing
                                                            "You see, many/most SEOs spend their time (and their clients' money) trying to trick Google into thinking that their websites are more relevant and important than they really are. They do this mostly by swapping links, buying cheap links, and placing links on free directories. " - how on earth does google know when you BUY a oneway link and when you get it because the other webmasters wants to link ?
                                                            So don't worry too much... reciprocal links are still helping... because mostly from my analyses this is what adult sites SEO is mostly based upon... not a lot of on page SEO or one way linking.. but on reciprocal links... and my opinion is that that article was written just to get a link to the owners site... as you can see it uses several times an anchor text link pointing to his sites...so no tks ... indeed good article submissions are good... but not for adult sites... what on earth do you write in a good adult related article ? Not talking about adult press releases... that are ignored by all the PR sites I know... so as a final comment don't worry about this update... there is still some more time untill reciprocal links will fall down ...

                                                            So if you want a reciprocal link or want SEO for your site just email me at razvan at blackbookescorts.com

                                                            Best wishes, Razvan

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                                                            • xxxjay
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                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by angelro
                                                              Hello guys.First of all that article was written in a hurry... why ? Because Jagger 3 has not finished yet.. SEO guys around the world still notice changes in their stats... so you cannot say something for sure untill the update is finished... then I saw a really stupid thing
                                                              "You see, many/most SEOs spend their time (and their clients' money) trying to trick Google into thinking that their websites are more relevant and important than they really are. They do this mostly by swapping links, buying cheap links, and placing links on free directories. " - how on earth does google know when you BUY a oneway link and when you get it because the other webmasters wants to link ?
                                                              So don't worry too much... reciprocal links are still helping... because mostly from my analyses this is what adult sites SEO is mostly based upon... not a lot of on page SEO or one way linking.. but on reciprocal links... and my opinion is that that article was written just to get a link to the owners site... as you can see it uses several times an anchor text link pointing to his sites...so no tks ... indeed good article submissions are good... but not for adult sites... what on earth do you write in a good adult related article ? Not talking about adult press releases... that are ignored by all the PR sites I know... so as a final comment don't worry about this update... there is still some more time untill reciprocal links will fall down ...

                                                              So if you want a reciprocal link or want SEO for your site just email me at razvan at blackbookescorts.com

                                                              Best wishes, Razvan
                                                              I agree, I am predicting I will catch a #1 for "XXX" once they finish with their filters. I've been #1 a few times over the last few weeks and they they switched it back to the old index.

                                                              http://www.google.com/search?sourcei...,GGLB:en&q=xxx

                                                              I've still got the first adult spot. Pretty sweet.
                                                              http://donttellmehowtoruinmylife.com/ - http://www.jmdigitalmarketing.com/my...s-and-reviews/ - http://www.wouldyouhitit.org - http://shinyobjectreviews.com/

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                                                              • Linkster
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                                                                #32
                                                                Jay - actually they are filtering you a lot - here's the listing for xxx without the filters http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...earch&filter=0
                                                                shows you at #1 but they are applying their dampening filter

                                                                Agreed - most of whats in that article is grabbing at straws and I sure wouldnt make any decisions based on it - just another attempt at "predicting" what really happens in Google - and most of it is just plain utter BS
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                                                                • nico-t
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by xxxjay
                                                                  I agree, I am predicting I will catch a #1 for "XXX" once they finish with their filters. I've been #1 a few times over the last few weeks and they they switched it back to the old index.

                                                                  http://www.google.com/search?sourcei...,GGLB:en&q=xxx

                                                                  I've still got the first adult spot. Pretty sweet.
                                                                  holy shit thats pretty damn nice

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                                                                  • Marcus Aurelius
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Very interesting read.

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                                                                    • Phoenix
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      some good reading there
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                                                                      • xxxjay
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                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by xxxjay
                                                                        I agree, I am predicting I will catch a #1 for "XXX" once they finish with their filters. I've been #1 a few times over the last few weeks and they they switched it back to the old index.

                                                                        http://www.google.com/search?sourcei...,GGLB:en&q=xxx

                                                                        I've still got the first adult spot. Pretty sweet.
                                                                        I hate to say I told you so, but...
                                                                        http://www.google.com/search?sourcei...,GGLB:en&q=xxx

                                                                        It may still be doing some jumping around...looks like #1 is on the way!
                                                                        http://donttellmehowtoruinmylife.com/ - http://www.jmdigitalmarketing.com/my...s-and-reviews/ - http://www.wouldyouhitit.org - http://shinyobjectreviews.com/

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                                                                        • woj
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                                                                          #37
                                                                          very interesting indeed, thanks for posting
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                                                                          • emthree
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                                                                            #38
                                                                            Nice, shall read tommorrow.

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                                                                            • Ace-wtf
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                                                                              #39
                                                                              very good read !!

                                                                              btw did anyone really get burned by jagger ?

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                                                                              • teksonline
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                                                                                #40
                                                                                Google made one mistake with jagger, and i see them starting to make alot of mistakes Yahoo made....

                                                                                They just pissed off 1,000,000+ webmasters with jagger who have now removed their google toolbar, one aspect they use for analysis..

                                                                                Now do they have enough data to not care about that? Not sure, I have noticed many things I will not discuss in public about things I see on how Google truly works but I can say this, these SEO's have not seen the light of day yet.... only the small tidbits

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                                                                                • angelro
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                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Yeah... the ones that used black hat seo got burned )

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                                                                                  • Thomas007
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                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Primarely, stick to this:

                                                                                    "
                                                                                    Conclusion

                                                                                    The lesson from Jagger is, don't try and trick Google! They've got more money and more brains than virtually any company in the world. It'll only end in tears! Don't spend time and money trying to make your site look important and relevant. Instead, spend that time and money actually making it important and relevant! Content - the real content behind the optimization - is the answer. After all, whether it's an article or a web page, it's the content that keeps 'eyes on paper', and that's what it's all about.
                                                                                    "


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                                                                                    • Violetta
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                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      thanks... great read!
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                                                                                      • loverboy
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                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        bookmarked, something to look forward to

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