Avs

[quiet]

are there any that allow you to host your own free stuff, your own front end and your own members area ie: you host everything, and use them for 'adult verification' purposes only?

just curious

[Rictor]

Umm...all of them?

[FATPad]

I think that's how most AVS's work.

[quiet]

Originally posted by Rictor
Umm...all of them?

*shrug* okay. so which is the best? best control over the amount you are charging, best % payout, etc?

[playa]

i don't know any avs that allows you to set the charges

[X37375787]

Originally posted by quiet
are there any that allow you to host your own free stuff, your own front end and your own members area ie: you host everything, and use them for 'adult verification' purposes only?

just curious

fucking newbie !

[quiet]

Originally posted by Equinox



fucking newbie !

lol

[BVF]

all of them let you do this. the catch is that they tell you how much advertising you can have on your site.

It may not matter to you but advertising is an important source of revenue for me.

[Fletch XXX]

Quiet.

BikiniVoyeur.com uses <a href=https://www.proadult.com/avs/wmapply.cgi?4306>ProAdult</a> and so do.

Simply the best.

[TheFLY]

This post just gave my spine a chill.

[FATPad]

Originally posted by Equinox



fucking newbie !

haha

[X37375787]

Originally posted by quiet


lol

There is no money in porn. Trust me.

[BVF]

if I was going to charge, I'd use www.proadult.com They're run by the voyeurweb folks and if you're willing to give up enough pics, you can get a lot of traffic to your site from their free picture section. but you only get like 10 dollars per sale

I'd also look at www.adultcheck.com because they have their own billing system called AC pay. I don't know much about it but check it out. They said that they're not affected by all of the visa shit. I got that from an email they sent out yesterday.

[TheFLY]

AVS is going to need to add features to suit the needs of webmasters fucked by VISA!

[Shooter]

I've gotten surprising good rebill numbers from FNP Premium. $24.95 to surfer, $17.00 to you.

[TheFLY]

Some sites I know use deluxepass.com -- pretty good ratios with them -- i don't know the specifics tho of payouts, etc...

[redwhitenblue]

and you have over 13000 recurring?


layoff that shitty bc bud...

[sexyavs]

Quiet,

No real free AVS pays more than http://sexyavs.com

$20.00 per free signup and we are very liberal on our site acceptance rules.

Chris
Icq me if you need anything
11403900

[Satan]

If you want better join ratios, try FREE avs's in my sig.
They have no limits on advertising inside the members areas.

I will also answer any questions if you like on ICQ 106673119

[Martin]

Go with the best bro www.sexkey.com

[FATPad]

hehe. Sorry. The whole concept of quiet's site going behind a free AVS is funny.

[L0stMind]

Originally posted by redwhitenblue
and you have over 13000 recurring?


layoff that shitty bc bud...

WTF did this have to do with anything?

[X37375787]

Originally posted by L0stMind


WTF did this have to do with anything?

Nothing, the troll's just acting like a retard.

[Tipsy]

Originally posted by FATPad
hehe. Sorry. The whole concept of quiet's site going behind a free AVS is funny.

I was thinking much the same. The AVS members would think christmas has come early

I'm all for it though - imagine being able to advertise your AVS site as having access to all those movies!!! Quiet - AVS is the oly way to go. Change to AVS now!!!! :D

[<IMX>]

BVF--
Ultimately the best AVS depends on what your goals. You can have ANY amount of ads, consoles etc. on most any AVS; however, you can not place that site on their Link List. That is no big deal if you have your own traffic.

quiet--
You can have almost any format you want with almost any AVS system out there. If your site doesn't confirm to their rules it will be kept off the link list. Again, this isn't a factor unless you want traffic from the AVS link list.

[Fletch XXX]

Originally posted by <IMX>
BVF--
Ultimately the best AVS depends on what your goals. You can have ANY amount of ads, consoles etc. on most any AVS; however, you can not place that site on their Link List. That is no big deal if you have your own traffic.

quiet--
You can have almost any format you want with almost any AVS system out there. If your site doesn't confirm to their rules it will be kept off the link list. Again, this isn't a factor unless you want traffic from the AVS link list.

So if a Premium AVS is declined for *member site upsell banners* you can still send traffic to is yourself without having it on their link list?

I am confused.

For instance ProAdult, Premium sites arent allowed to have any banners in the *member content pages* - am I able to do this after it is *declined*?

Isnt making sense to me.

[Pornwolf]

I believe all avs companies will protect your site regardless of what you have inside if you keep it off the linklist. Just shoot them an e-mail.

I don't know if you noticed but when you get a decline e-mail it says all signups are still being counted.

[m0rph3us]

quiet, adultbouncer is the way to go. I doubt it would be a wise idea to put YOUR site in an AVS and host the members area (you'd probably get triple your member base now downloading). Just incorp in US (easy), make your Canadian company bill your US comapny for management services and leave little money in your US to pay taxes for. Pay the taxes from your Canadian Co. to the CDN gov.

[Candyman69]

Originally posted by quiet
are there any that allow you to host your own free stuff, your own front end and your own members area ie: you host everything, and use them for 'adult verification' purposes only?

just curious

yo quiet u talk to the people at netbilling ?

they mite be able to transfer ur rebills

[m0rph3us]

all the people that think FREE avs's are the way to go are complete retards. VISA won't let legitimate sites do proper business, you think they will allow your GET FREE ACCESS ENTER YOUR CREDIT CARD FOR AGE VERIFICATION BULLSHIT ? (while you rebill them a 99.99 membership). Think again.

[m0rph3us]

Originally posted by Candyman69


yo quiet u talk to the people at netbilling ?

they mite be able to transfer ur rebills

it's fraud to get billed by one company and get rebilled by another. IBILL won't allow release of their client's CC information to their competition.

[geejay]

Adult Verifier Ultra program. $23.50 signup and $20 recurring. Affiliate program so other webmasters can promote your site.
Not a lot of bs restrictions on how the webmaster designs their site, either.

http://www.adultverifier.com

[BVF]

Originally posted by Fletch XXX


So if a Premium AVS is declined for *member site upsell banners* you can still send traffic to is yourself without having it on their link list?

He's half right. With AVS' like Sexkey, you can put all the banners and links up that you want. But it's a Free site so they're more lenient.

When it comes to PAYING for the AVS service, they frown apon advertising other membership sites. I know that it is SPECIFICALLY banned with proadult.

The first site I ever built (besides Geocities) was my proadult site and I have around 7 Sexkey sites so I know their rules. And if they deny your site, you won't be able to make any money with proadult because they won't activate your script. It has nothing to do with the linklist. And proadult's linklist is shitty anyway. You have to send your own traffic for it to do any good.

[Candyman69]

Originally posted by m0rph3us


it's fraud to get billed by one company and get rebilled by another. IBILL won't allow release of their client's CC information to their competition.

well hey if ur going to drop ur rebills

why not go for netbilling
own merchant aint that bad

ive had 0.4 percent all year round

if u offer wut u say, update and have good support

then its all good
u tell them if they are unsatisfied u give them a refund guranteed

[eru]

Originally posted by TheFLY
Some sites I know use deluxepass.com -- pretty good ratios with them -- i don't know the specifics tho of payouts, etc...

amen -> payout $12 initial $10 recurring (if your site migrates from another avs)

$10/$10 if your site is new. Monthly fee for surfers is $19.95.

[Fletch XXX]

Originally posted by BVF


He's half right. With AVS' like Sexkey, you can put all the banners and links up that you want. But it's a Free site so they're more lenient.

When it comes to PAYING for the AVS service, they frown apon advertising other membership sites. I know that it is SPECIFICALLY banned with proadult.

The first site I ever built (besides Geocities) was my proadult site and I have around 7 Sexkey sites so I know their rules. And if they deny your site, you won't be able to make any money with proadult because they won't activate your script. It has nothing to do with the linklist. And proadult's linklist is shitty anyway. You have to send your own traffic for it to do any good.

Agreed. I am familiar with Sexkey among others. And now ProAdult - (mainly premium avs) I debate between Cyberage and ProAdult, which would you say is better for making the most out of your traffic. As well as upsells etc. Non Free, looking to go pay premium avs on a few shortly.

[kenny]

My AVS traffic converts better then my SE traffic, its easy to sell with the AVS 1 password, access 10,000+ sites concept.

[Pornwolf]

I feel a massive AVS exodus coming shortly. Take a trip over to http://avslounge.com so you guys can compare avs rebill payouts. For some of them you actually make more than if you were charging $29.95 and you rebill longer.

Look long and hard at your options.

[Ajay]

Originally posted by quiet
are there any that allow you to host your own free stuff, your own front end and your own members area ie: you host everything, and use them for 'adult verification' purposes only?

just curious

Sounds like a "turn key system" would probably suit you better Quiet.

Its not shared members as the standard avs site but simply the use of the billing part of an existing well established system and also you could probably use the free content (movies) involved.

The site would also be anonymous then AVS.
(non shared members)

They provide hosting but since you dont need that you could probably work out a better deal.

mail me (ahess at woh.rr.com)
and I'll give you the info to contact the owner directly if you like.
I know him well.
I dont want to disclose the system here for reasons I'll explain.
It maybe another route you can consider.

[quiet]

thanks for the info so far

i'm not looking to put my paysite behind an avs - but as i wait for 'US presence' to clarified by ibill, i am naturally curious to learn about all options.

Its not shared members as the standard avs site but simply the use of the billing part of an existing well established system and also you could probably use the free content (movies) involved.

The site would also be anonymous then AVS.
(non shared members)

They provide hosting but since you dont need that you could probably work out a better deal.

yes, this is what i'd be interested in as far as avs is concerned. i have no interest on being on link lists, or passing special requirements, or any of that.

i'd have everything, hosting, traffic, content. everything. i'd only be utilizing the billing part of the system.

and i certainly would not want other members of the avs having access to my members area (as morpheus mentioned), so the whole avs thing is probably not an option.

turn key system?

[Adultbouncer Rob]

www.adultbouncer.com

We offer

- free content
- free hosting
- our own exclusive inhouse billing
- free movie/pic gallery hosting
- free licensed content

http://www.adultbouncer.com

[Backov]

Quiet, I shot ya an email about this.. We've looked into all the options here.

As for turnkey, it sounds like turn key spammer guy there thinks you're a newb and wants to sell you a turnkey paysite. ;>

Cheers,
Backov

[Adultbouncer Rob]

[Smith]

I would personally use Cybersex AVS.



Cybersex (with my code)

Cybersex (without my code)

And like Pornwolf said check out avslounge.com quite a few of the AVS company reps / owners visit the forum there.

[m0rph3us]

quiet, contact Ajay ... their system kicks ass and I use it as well. Saves me headaches from times like this and billing is smooth.

[Brujah]

Originally posted by quiet
thanks for the info so far

i'm not looking to put my paysite behind an avs - but as i wait for 'US presence' to clarified by ibill, i am naturally curious to learn about all options.



yes, this is what i'd be interested in as far as avs is concerned. i have no interest on being on link lists, or passing special requirements, or any of that.

i'd have everything, hosting, traffic, content. everything. i'd only be utilizing the billing part of the system.

and i certainly would not want other members of the avs having access to my members area (as morpheus mentioned), so the whole avs thing is probably not an option.

turn key system?

AC Pay might be the system you're really looking for, unless you wanted thousands of surfers that already have an ID in your members area's all the time. It's like a cross between a merchant account and an AVS. I think the biggest key is that all the customers are ACPay customers and you are an affiliate that refers to them.

[quiet]

Originally posted by Brujah


AC Pay might be the system you're really looking for, unless you wanted thousands of surfers that already have an ID in your members area's all the time. It's like a cross between a merchant account and an AVS. I think the biggest key is that all the customers are ACPay customers and you are an affiliate that refers to them.

i took a look at their site. it looks like a perfect solution... too perfect. sounds basically like ccbill or ibill ie a 3rd party processor. am i wrong?

https://clients.acpay.com/FAQ.acp

does anyone here use them?

[BV]

Originally posted by quiet


i took a look at their site. it looks like a perfect solution... too perfect. sounds basically like ccbill or ibill ie a 3rd party processor. am i wrong?

https://clients.acpay.com/FAQ.acp

does anyone here use them?

Quiet,

Basically you can look at any avs system as just another 3rd party processor.

some are definitely better than others because they have better extra feeds, better quality sites, and better affiliate systems.

In my opinion Pro Adult Quantum's system blows away the others by a long shot! A very flexible s-rev affiliate system that enables you to change payout structures PLUS tons of top notch extra feeds and all of Voyeurweb's Redclouds Real amateur sites just retains out the ass making me and my affiliates Boo Koo Bucks!



Webmasters with voyeur party girl traffic,

Not happy with your current bottom line figures?
Tired of the "per sign up" BS?
Get your ass over to BikiniVoyeur now and see what I'm talking about!

Cheers!
BV

[TeraBabes]

Originally posted by Smith
I would personally use Cybersex AVS.



Cybersex (with my code)

Cybersex (without my code)

And like Pornwolf said check out avslounge.com quite a few of the AVS company reps / owners visit the forum there.

Funny how those links are exactly the same.

Also funny how many people are spamming QUIET (of all people) with ref codes and whanot. At least there have been a FEW useful posts in this thread.

[BV]

Originally posted by TeraBabes


Funny how those links are exactly the same.

Also funny how many people are spamming QUIET (of all people) with ref codes and whanot. At least there have been a FEW useful posts in this thread.

There are more webmasters than Quiet reading this thread;

lol i noticed those links were the same as well.