NEW alternative billing method.

[Brad Mitchell]

...and it won't use any of the current platforms (merchant or 900) but will have instant mainstream acceptance. Nope, nothing you've seen yet online. It isn't fancy, but neither are the people that use AOL 7.

Wahoo! Another pet project for Brad.

It appears that my previous work experience might come in handy after all. More news to follow...?

Fro! Quit your fucking day job already.



Cheers,

Brad

[pr0]

Brad has your wife been slipping anything into your tea lately?

[Brad Mitchell]

I'm just riding the high of today's ultrasound where I saw our baby moving.

...but yes, I actually do have something viable here.

[$tandaman]

Brad is it CC by phone or something

[playa]

prepaid sex cards,,

its gonna be hot

http://www.6card.com/

[gothweb]

I think PayPal might be the next big thing for adult. Their model is different enough that it might hold up.

[Keev]

Dialers might get alitle more lovin now , not that we will like them more but more love for them

[UnseenWorld]

I still think the adult industry should form its own credit card processing company.

[MetaformX]

hey brad, sounds good. Ill throw in the perfect domain for this new billing company, for a small share of the company! hehe

rebills.com

[Mutt]

playa do you also go by the name 'Gonzo'? 'Gonzo' was telling me about 6card.com.

I told him pre-paid cards have been tried a bunch of times on the adult Net without much luck.

But maybe if credit card processing gets tough this time more webmasters will give it a try and it has a chance to succeed.

[boneprone]

Jesus Bill

[Mutt]

Unseen World,

What would that do? IBill, CCBill, Epoch Jettis etc already pretty much are adult industry processing companies. Adult subscription sites are the bulk of their business.

So what would a credit card processing company that is strictly adult do any better? Nothing. In fact it would make it real easy for VISA or Mastercard to just close it down without worrying about mainstream merchants getting hurt.

[mrthumbs]

Surfers leave their address and Brad picks up the money..

[Brad Mitchell]

lol

No phone stuff, no prepaid cards, no paypal, no dialers... and no, I wouldn't be stopping by their houses to pick up the cash

Before I was a p0rn0 guy I used to manage about a million and a half a month in patient and insurance collections. Very few people would be more qualified than myself to create this business model.

The thought of generating an A/R with tens of thousands of people at home makes me hard.

Not as a replacement to other methods that are available, but if you change the way you think about how we do business - the value of services - how we collect - and how we pay referral fees... then this IS the next big thing. How do you think BMG and other mail order houses got so big?

Cheers,

Brad

[karenv1]

Brad is the man

[steffie]

Originally posted by playa
prepaid sex cards,,

its gonna be hot

http://www.6card.com/

In 99 they tried them prepaid cards it didn't fly. Maybe now is the time. The problem with these things is just one minor.
People who buy porn are impulse buyers urgh!

Brad, when is the baby due? So I can send you a gift! I love babies, as long as they don't belong to me and I can give them back. I got enough kids lol

[playa]

Originally posted by Mutt
playa do you also go by the name 'Gonzo'? 'Gonzo' was telling me about 6card.com.

no not me, just a friend

btw,, its not only used for porn it could be used for anything to purchase online

[UnseenWorld]

Originally posted by Mutt
Unseen World,

What would that do? IBill, CCBill, Epoch Jettis etc already pretty much are adult industry processing companies. Adult subscription sites are the bulk of their business.

So what would a credit card processing company that is strictly adult do any better? Nothing. In fact it would make it real easy for VISA or Mastercard to just close it down without worrying about mainstream merchants getting hurt.

How would the mainstream card companies get such a company closed down, and why would they want to? If this credit card company stuck to adult businesses, well this is business VISA and MC apparently don't want anyway.

[Dawgy]

Originally posted by SinEmpire
Not as a replacement to other methods that are available, but if you change the way you think about how we do business - the value of services - how we collect - and how we pay referral fees... then this IS the next big thing. How do you think BMG and other mail order houses got so big?

hmm.... i think i see where youre heading... but... not really...

[Brad Mitchell]

We'll just call it DawgyCash. lmao

[ColKurtz]

Something that does this scenerio maybe....

a. Surfer goes to whateverbill.com and puts $30.00 dollars on their whateverbill.com account.

b. Surfer goes to somefucksite.com and wants to join. All they have to give is there whateverbill acct number and the fees are deducted from their account.

c. Surfer likes it because it is easier to join and they dont have to give whoeverthefuck.com their personal info.


Basically, slightly like an AVS type system only surfer dosent get access to every site using it.

[Brad Mitchell]

Nah that's too complicated. People are spontaneous, thinking that them having a 'deposit on account' is realistic.. is unrealistic.

Brad

[cherrylula]

Originally posted by gothweb
I think PayPal might be the next big thing for adult. Their model is different enough that it might hold up.

http://msnbc-cnet.com.com/2100-1017-...&subj=cnetnews

[SykkBoy]

Originally posted by steffie


In 99 they tried them prepaid cards it didn't fly. Maybe now is the time. The problem with these things is just one minor.
People who buy porn are impulse buyers urgh!

Brad, when is the baby due? So I can send you a gift! I love babies, as long as they don't belong to me and I can give them back. I got enough kids lol

The problem with those cards is dsitribution....getting them out to the masses....

I'm hoping this is a chance for PayPal to get their head's out of their asses, hire some competant customer service poeple and take over....probably won't happen, but I can dream.......

the fees are beside the point....it's the idea that VISA can run roughshod like this...but hey, their company, their policies (as much as they suck).....

[Schwick]

Brad,
Do you think that the offline billing thing would work? BMG and CH both charge for the shipping and handling by credit card. This way they have recourse if you do not keep your end of the bargain as well as they get away from the people that order as John Doe, get the free cds, and then skate. They would have to give their SSN and then it would have to be checked...yada yada yada.

[flyingco]

I know what I would do!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

SMS REVERSE BILLING.

I mean you now have vending machines that you can now buy cokes out of. Why not do the same with Cell phones? It will catch on I am sure.

-Nato

PS. If that ever happens, I am going to set up a telco company or buy over one.

[dikkechill]

Talking about Sms billing.

Sms Revenue is comming with great new features for both paysites owners and non paysite owners at the beginning of next week. Sms Revenue will be launching a set of services that will help to overcome alot of current limitations of online sms billing.

I can't tell much yet, but it's gona be a huge step forward.
If there are any paysite owners with or without affliate programs who are interested in smsbilling you can contact us at

[email protected]

cya
Dikkechill

[cat]

sms billing FOR SURE!!

[cat]

forget those credit cards!

[TheFLY]

jigga what?

[Shooter]

Anybody wanna fill me in on what BMG's billing model is?

[TheFLY]

Originally posted by Shooter
Anybody wanna fill me in on what BMG's billing model is?

I have no idea -- it sounds to me like he wants us to bill them by mail...?

[Shooter]

Originally posted by TheFLY


I have no idea -- it sounds to me like he wants us to bill them by mail...?

Yeh that's what I was thinking to - as I thought that WAS there billing model, but I don't see how he could think that's a viable alternative.

Brad?

[beemk]

with bmg you get the product then you get the bill. then if you dont pay the bill they turn it over to a collection agency.