men.com -vs- askmen.com

[woj]

Cincuenta!.....,...

[warlock5]

Whatever you choose to do, find someone with a track record for building profitable content sites. The last thing I'd be interested in design portfolio -- the best site builders I know outsource work to top-notch designers (hell, I know some web design firms that even do this.)

[Veterans Day]

gay portal and be done with it

[KRL]

Like it or not, KRL is a smart son of a bitch!

He's not spending his money on "overhead" until it starts getting lots more traffic and he gets the right concept on it that hits paydirt.

I think most of the people talking shit are just jealous that they can't afford a million dollar fucking domain name!

I'm just a regular hard working entrepreneur folks. I wish everyone would not make me out to be a Donald Trump. I'm no smarter than anyone else on this board and there are many people here who I've met and made friends with who I consider way smarter than I am and even more successful. I've had winners and losers both. You just try your best to end up with more winners.

I don't know why a few people are so obsessed with bashing this domain. Its just a domain like every other one. Nothing special yet. Maybe one day it will be a great site, maybe it will take years to get the formula right. Maybe we'll try gay next. I'm not opposed to that approach either.

But its a nice property and we'll always have intrinsic value, so that affords the luxury to work it in different ways till we nail it down tight.

[Veterans Day]

I'm just a regular hard working entrepreneur folks. I wish everyone would not make me out to be a Donald Trump.

The crux of this statement is that many feel you did make yourself out to be a "Donald Trump" amongst the people on this forum. All the talk of money made, and so forth.

[KRL]

Whatever you choose to do, find someone with a track record for building profitable content sites. The last thing I'd be interested in design portfolio -- the best site builders I know outsource work to top-notch designers (hell, I know some web design firms that even do this.)

Here are a few of the sites the current management and development team built and run:

http://www.MuscleAndFitness.com/

http://www.MensFitness.com/

http://www.FlexOnline.com/

http://www.Shape.com/

http://www.NationalEnquirer.com/

http://www.StarMagazine.com/

[Veterans Day]

Here are a few of the sites the current management and development team built and run:

http://www.MuscleAndFitness.com/

http://www.MensFitness.com/

http://www.FlexOnline.com/

http://www.Shape.com/

http://www.NationalEnquirer.com/

http://www.StarMagazine.com/

Good lord, the current index is atrocious from an end user standpoint. Really no reflection of their past work. It loads slow as fuck and a black background, with that crazy font on the menu buttons? Next.............

[Lotus_Mike]

Here are a few of the sites the current management and development team built and run:

http://www.MuscleAndFitness.com/

http://www.MensFitness.com/

http://www.FlexOnline.com/

http://www.Shape.com/

http://www.NationalEnquirer.com/

http://www.StarMagazine.com/

And they all look too bold and industrial.

You need a new agency.

[Pipecrew]

Now to really digress - hey this GFY afterall

CANNABIS.COM is for sale - and seeing how much Men.com reportedly sold for, CANNABIS.COM is likely a bargain in comparison ... includes some common typo variations plus CANN.COM (a nice 4 letter!) too along with much of the content ...

Current high offer, just this past week, is $500K USD for the CANNABIS.COM package.

That's getting closer to the ballpark of what I'd consider accepting from a motivated buyer...

Please direct offers / questions to me at [email protected] and/or [email protected]

Lets do business.

Ron

If someone offered you 500k for that domain you should jump all over it, I cant see anyone paying over 75k for it without getting ripped off.

[KRL]

The crux of this statement is that many feel you did make yourself out to be a "Donald Trump" amongst the people on this forum. All the talk of money made, and so forth.

Well all the bashing started after this domain was acquired. I didn't even want to post the acquisition, but Rick came on here and posted about it.

Fuck I'm sick of it. Everyone go bash someone else already. Its fucking boring as hell seeing the same crap over and over.

I like working independently and being productive and creative. I like buying and selling things. Nothing more. That's why I love the domain biz. I don't like running big companies. I don't want to run a big company. I just like being a small businessman, its way more fun and less stress. I can't stand the bureaucracy when your small biz turns into a heavy corporation. When that point comes its time to sell, make your profits and go do your next new fun venture.

[KRL]

If someone offered you 500k for that domain you should jump all over it, I cant see anyone paying over 75k for it without getting ripped off.

Brand has Weed.com. These two should sell as a package deal.

[KRL]

And they all look too bold and industrial.

You need a new agency.

Have you seen me make a post on here recently saying "Check out how great Men.com is now!!"

You don't do you.

Trust me I'm not as clueless as you think. I've sent the dev team a list of things already that I was not thrilled with. I do believe everyone deserves a chance to prove what they can do. So we'll see. . .

[frankfortuna]

Brand has Weed.com. These two should sell as a package deal.

Do you have any motorcycle or powersports related domains? I've inquired about ride.com several times but I cannot seem to get a response out of the owner.

[aeon]

First off I'm not running the domain. We hired a company to do it.

Fire them and hire a designer...no offence but something isn't adding up here. Unless your GE or the likes, most people watch a 7 figure investment.

[KRL]

Do you have any motorcycle or powersports related domains? I've inquired about ride.com several times but I cannot seem to get a response out of the owner.

Not in my portfolio. I'll see if Rick or any of the other guys have one for that niche.

Ride.com is a great one. Try Biker.com. He's got that just on PPC too.

[frankfortuna]

Not in my portfolio. I'll see if Rick or any of the other guys have one for that niche.

Ride.com is a great one. Try Biker.com. He's got that just on PPC too.

Thanks for the response. I'll email you the project we have in development, we're pretty excited about it.

[KRL]

Fire them and hire a designer...no offence but something isn't adding up here. Unless your GE or the likes, most people watch a 7 figure investment.

The head of marketing for Men has a very solid 30 year major media corp resume.

You have to give someone like that the benefit of the doubt and a reasonable amount of time to show what they can do.

It doesn't matter what works or doesn't work. Domains on this level are like prime real estate lots. You could put a hot dog stand on there and the value of the raw land doesn't change. Yeh, the goal is to one day have a skyscraper, but that is not an easy task and more than likely it will only happen when we sell or merge the domain with a major fortune 500 company, which is the long term objective.

[Lotus_Mike]

Have you seen me make a post on here recently saying "Check out how great Men.com is now!!"

You don't do you.

Trust me I'm not as clueless as you think. I've sent the dev team a list of things already that I was not thrilled with. I do believe everyone deserves a chance to prove what they can do. So we'll see. . .

No, you posted some links of your agencys previous work. Why you advocate having your online entity run by a cookie cutter RSS agency in the first place confuses me. How personalized can you expect men.com to be? Any syndicated authors?

[KRL]

Thanks for the response. I'll email you the project we have in development, we're pretty excited about it.

Thats a huge market. And as gas prices continue to go up more and more people are going to be getting into motorcyles I think.

[KRL]

No, you posted some links of your agencys previous work. Why you advocate having your online entity run by a cookie cutter RSS agency in the first place confuses me. How personalized can you expect men.com to be? Any syndicated authors?

Our current team insisted on not micro-managing during their build-out. We did too much of that last year with two other teams we had. Its like too many chefs in the kitchen.

[aeon]

The head of marketing for Men has a very solid 30 year major media corp resume.

You have to give someone like that the benefit of the doubt and a reasonable amount of time to show what they can do.

It doesn't matter what works or doesn't work. Domains on this level are like prime real estate lots. You could put a hot dog stand on there and the value of the raw land doesn't change. Yeh, the goal is to one day have a skyscraper, but that is not an easy task and more than likely it will only happen when we sell or merge the domain with a major fortune 500 company, which is the long term objective.

I'm not slamming you - at all - that's why I said no offense...but to me it doesn't make any sense. Where I come from, no one other than huge corps invest 7 figures and just let it sit and they don't do anything with it, especially online - it's not easy to leverage net real estate with a bank. Actuall land or other property gives you collateral for loans. Letting this wallow doesn't make any sense but I could be missing it. Major media companies gobble up developed domains...this just doesn't make sense.

[KRL]

I'm not slamming you - at all - that's why I said no offense...but to me it doesn't make any sense. Where I come from, no one other than huge corps invest 7 figures and just let it sit and they don't do anything with it, especially online - it's not easy to leverage net real estate with a bank. Actuall land or other property gives you collateral for loans. Letting this wallow doesn't make any sense but I could be missing it. Major media companies gobble up developed domains...this just doesn't make sense.

High end domains are relatively safe deals as long as you don't do a dot com model with a zillion employees and massive investment in infrastructure.

[Lotus_Mike]

Our current team insisted on not micro-managing during their build-out. We did too much of that last year with two other teams we had. Its like too many chefs in the kitchen.

Whatever you do, I wish you the best. Keep a lookout for an email, I might forward a media group from LA.

[BlueDesignStudios]

I get the following message when I visit these 2 sites:


http://www.starmagazine.com/
http://www.nationalenquirer.com/

Page unavailable/under construction


WTF??

[KRL]

Thanks for the response. I'll email you the project we have in development, we're pretty excited about it.

Got a PM from Brian with these two. Not sure if its in the direction of what you are doing though.

BidOnCycles.com

BidOnMotorCycles.com

[KRL]

I get the following message when I visit these 2 sites:


http://www.starmagazine.com/
http://www.nationalenquirer.com/

Page unavailable/under construction


WTF??

That's odd. Loading fine from the states.

[frankfortuna]

Got a PM from Brian with these two. Not sure if its in the direction of what you are doing though.

BidOnCycles.com

BidOnMotorCycles.com

Not exactly. Check your men.com email, I sent you the project specifics.

[aeon]

High end domains are relatively safe deals as long as you don't do a dot com model with a zillion employees and massive investment in infrastructure.

Well, you've blown past me - I'm not gonna be starting a dot com looking for a public offering. This just doesn't add up to me. Something's just wrong somewhere but best of luck with it.

[KRL]

Whatever you do, I wish you the best. Keep a lookout for an email, I might forward a media group from LA.

Thanks sincerely. Its been a challenge over the past year. We got innundated with so many ideas its hard to really know which will work best without trying different things.

I still think it'd be great for gay personals site. My two partners think it would work, but be tough then to position it for an acquisiton with a major company by limiting the content to one niche market only.

[KRL]

Well, you've blown past me - I'm not gonna be starting a dot com looking for a public offering. This just doesn't add up to me. Something's just wrong somewhere but best of luck with it.

Don't want to do a public offering. The objective is to jv or merge with a major media company that has the infrastructure and media power to do it full blast. We've got things already being initiated for discussion in that direction with two big companies, but those size deals take months and don't happen without lots of back and forth negotiating.

[keyboard warrior]

I get the following message when I visit these 2 sites:

http://www.starmagazine.com/
http://www.nationalenquirer.com/

Page unavailable/under construction

WTF??

Right on the Money!
I could make a better looking site and i am not a designer.

I would FIRE that media team KRL as they are living in 1999 at best!!!!!!!

[keyboard warrior]

That's odd. Loading fine from the states.

They load real slow and look like shit i think is what BDS is trying to say.

[KyleHoppes]

More Money More Problems Let The Haters Hate.

[Lotus_Mike]

Don't want to do a public offering. The objective is to jv or merge with a major media company that has the infrastructure and media power to do it full blast. We've got things already being initiated for discussion in that direction with two big companies, but those size deals take months and don't happen without lots of back and forth negotiating.

See you stupid GFY fuckers? The man is elite afterall.

KRL go fuck yourself.

[keyboard warrior]

KRL ran a contest for page layouts and headers, and most of those look way better then the current state that men.com is in now.

[GTS Mark]

Ahhh KRL don't worry so much my man, you know what they say "when people stop talking about you, that is when you should worry." ;)

DH

[KRL]

Frank,

Got these cycle domains available so far:

BidOnCycles.com

BidOnMotorCycles.com

ChampionMotorcycles.com

CycleReport.com

CycleRiding.com

CyclesWorld.com

HotMotorcycle.com

BikingNews.com

BikingUSA.com

WestCoastBiker.com

[KRL]

Frank,

Got these cycle domains available so far:

BidOnCycles.com

BidOnMotorCycles.com

ChampionMotorcycles.com

CycleReport.com

CycleRiding.com

CyclesWorld.com

HotMotorcycle.com

BikingNews.com

BikingUSA.com

WestCoastBiker.com

Also, MotorBikes.com and CycleWeb.com

[Ron Bennett]

CANNABIS.COM is Profitable ... 7500 visitors visit daily - high quality traffic!

You're off by at least one order of magnitude ... $750K is more like the number I'd be tempted to "jump all over it".

Approx 7500 visitors PER DAY and grosses around $100K per year - much of that being net ... approx $8000 gross currently with around $5000 being net ... equating to $60K per year NET.

I have several bonafide offers well over $100K with a few in the $250K - $300K range ... and one, just the past week, in the $500K range.

Plus even had two bids on CANNABIS.COM when I put it on Ebay ... $125K first time, and $250K the second time. The bids weren't exactly world-shattering, but point is that to get 6-figure bids on Ebay says a lot - there's a lot of interest and value in CANNABIS.COM

Many experienced folks in the domain business believe CANNABIS.COM is worth close to / more than a million, but most investors just don't have enough money to buy it right now.

CANNABIS.COM is a great domain and the numerous bonafide offers I've received are proof-positive of that...

Offers may be directed to me at [email protected] and/or [email protected]

Ron

If someone offered you 500k for that domain you should jump all over it, I cant see anyone paying over 75k for it without getting ripped off.

[BRISK]

askmen.com was bought by IGN for $650 mil

IGN was bought for $650 million

askmen.com is just one of a portfolio of sites that IGN owns

[BVF]

Here are a few of the sites the current management and development team built and run:

http://www.MuscleAndFitness.com/

http://www.MensFitness.com/

http://www.FlexOnline.com/

http://www.Shape.com/

http://www.NationalEnquirer.com/

http://www.StarMagazine.com/

Are you fucking serious? Life must be easy for webmasters in mainstream. They create banner farms for those large companies and they get CREDIT for that shit? Amazing.

[BRISK]

I don't know why a few people are so obsessed with bashing this domain. Its just a domain like every other one.

KRL, while it's definitely true that GFY is full of haters who love nothing more than to see others fail, I think what really made you a target is when you claimed that men.com would be worth over $100 million two years from when you bought it, and now that two years is almost up. Anyone who boasts or talks big like that on GFY is going to get bashed if they don't live up to their words. You made yourself a target for the GFY haters.

When I get done executing the plans for it in 2 years, mark my words, Men.com will be worth over $100 Million.

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showpo...5&postcount=94

[BVF]

Our current team insisted on not micro-managing during their build-out. We did too much of that last year with two other teams we had. Its like too many chefs in the kitchen.

Your current team sucks ass.

If I wasn't in pornography, I'd be a software engineer. And I KNOW that software developers can't come to a client and say "no micromanaging"...You know WHY your team is saying that shit? It's because they're not letting YOU come up with the specific requirements for what you want.

Any Software Engineer knows what Requirements are. If you don't already have a good and SOLID idea for what you want them to do, then they will NEVER be able to do shit right.

Any moron on this board could make men.com a gay banner farm and then kick back and make money. Why hire a "team" of morons who will make you nothing more than a mainstream banner farm?

[juicyjuice]

IGN was bought for $650 million

askmen.com is just one of a portfolio of sites that IGN owns

thank you! I was wondering where he got that info from.

askmen.com would not even sell for one tenth of that amount. even 1/100th would seem high.

[slapass]

The original post is tupid. You have no idea what askmen.com nets. We know that men.com has offers for double what was paid and even more. I do not build anything and I can see him just sitting on it for a few years and selling it for big $$$. And the problem with this is?

[President]

You're off by at least one order of magnitude ... $750K is more like the number I'd be tempted to "jump all over it".

Approx 7500 visitors PER DAY and grosses around $100K per year - much of that being net ... approx $8000 gross currently with around $5000 being net ... equating to $60K per year NET.

CANNABIS.COM is a great domain and the numerous bonafide offers I've received are proof-positive of that...

Offers may be directed to me at [email protected] and/or [email protected]

Ron

How do I get DopeSmokers.com to do that?

On another note, I used to have a "tiny" link on Men.com that went to my gay site, ohhh do I miss that

[Ron Bennett]

I've definitely going to pursue consulting - already done quite a bit already over the years for free for friends, advertisers that advertise on Cannabis.com), etc that has proved to be very worthwhile $$$ for them.

In regards to DopeSmokers.com ...

Easiest thing to try first is redicting the traffic to a herbal smoke (legal weed) affiliate program such as http://www.HerbalSmokeShop.com

If you want to potentially earn much more, you'll need to develop the domain to some extent ... there are numerous approaches that could likely work - email me if you desire my consulting services.

[email protected] and/or [email protected]

Ron

[KRL]

The original post is tupid. You have no idea what askmen.com nets. We know that men.com has offers for double what was paid and even more. I do not build anything and I can see him just sitting on it for a few years and selling it for big $$$. And the problem with this is?

[Rhesus]

The original post is tupid. You have no idea what askmen.com nets. We know that men.com has offers for double what was paid and even more. I do not build anything and I can see him just sitting on it for a few years and selling it for big $$$. And the problem with this is?

Have any proof for that?

[monaro]

G'day,
The site Men instantly delivers to myself a understanding about products to buy and stronger focus towards advice on relationships. With quotes like; "How to catch her eye! & How to win her heart!" Is it just me being because im single and am interested in starting a good wholesome relationship?

Black background works well enough to control my focus on particular ads, The blue text on your left side channels made myself wait for a few moments, though I concider myself to be patient enough to wait for the channel background color to load so I could read what other goods men has to offer.
I do not know the owner other than reading from what I am able to read and taking thought into my own mind that it is theirs and looking in from the outside I accept what is offered to myself on men.

In closing I can clearly see the value of bookmarking men to visit in my leisure time.

Have a great day.
Mark