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[Funbrunette]

Your thoughts? I don't really see anything wrong with it as long as it's done for the right reasons (you do it for yourself) and if you know when to stop! I hear so many stories of women getting addicted to it...My question is how do they pay for all this shit???

[minaroyale]

Either they have money to begin with...apply for financing and refi their homes, or get dudes to pay for it.

Question answered.

Shit, I see nothing wrong with it..same as you. Right reasons...

[fris]

Your thoughts? I don't really see anything wrong with it as long as it's done for the right reasons (you do it for yourself) and if you know when to stop! I hear so many stories of women getting addicted to it...My question is how do they pay for all this shit???

name what you want, send the bill to me.

[TurboAngel]

name what you want, send the bill to me.

I'm jealous.

[bigdog]

Your thoughts? I don't really see anything wrong with it as long as it's done for the right reasons (you do it for yourself) and if you know when to stop! I hear so many stories of women getting addicted to it...My question is how do they pay for all this shit???

credit is a wonderful thing

[Funbrunette]

I'm jealous.

You don't need anything done hun!

[TurboAngel]

You don't need anything done hun!

LMAO, I love you!

[Trax]

Even though I'm male I still didn't regret having done something on my body
not at all
would do it again any time

[minaroyale]

WTF? Name what you want...god damn...lucky!

[Funbrunette]

http://kim4sex69.com/NEW%20PICTUES%20PAGE.htm This is what I mean...

[Trax]

http://kim4sex69.com/NEW%20PICTUES%20PAGE.htm This is what I mean...

I could never get him hard on that .... whatever you can call something like that

[TurboAngel]

WTF? Name what you want...god damn...lucky!

I know right?

[pornguy]

This thread would do much better if you showed some photos of the areas that you want done, and what you want done to them.

[Mako]

Love it. Better living through science.

One caveat to that: Research research research.

The best boobjobs I've felt/seen/whatever all seemed to come from a limited small group of the same doctors (I'm in LA/Orange County area where they're a dime a dozen). Some of the worst came from "celebrity" guys like Garth Fisher.

It's all about endless research.

Oh one more thing related specifically to breast implants (not you necessarily FB, talking to lurkers):

If having the best "feel" is your goal (not having them hard like two rocks in your chest) you need to go under the muscle, and with silicone. With saline you tend to get ripples in the bag, and they don't feel as good to the touch.

[adultchica]

Plastic surgery for your own personal reasons and not someone else's can probably be a big booster for the old self-esteem.

Now this is when a sugar daddy would be real nice.......my man is way too broke to ever pay for anything like that :-) I mean, he actually had a cow when I bought a 50$ pair of jeans the other day (with my own money). ugh!

[aico]

Plastic surgery is for the extremely insecure, and plastic surgeons feed on that insecurity.

And you know damn well women don't do it for themself, they do it to compete with the other women doing it. If you want to do something for yourself, be happy with yourself the way you are, yourself will really appreciate it.

[aico]

Plastic surgery for your own personal reasons and not someone else's can probably be a big booster for the old self-esteem.

How can something that has nothing to do with you boost your self-esteem? That's like being proud that you got an A+ on a test that you cheated on. I laugh when people congratulate girls on their great pair of FAKE tits, why are you congratulating them? They aren't theirs, they had nothing to do with making them great, congratulate the doctor, not the girl, she had nothing to do with it.

[CurrentlySober]

I misread that post I think... Thank god !

I read it quick and could have sworn it said
I don't really see anything wrong with it as long as it's done for the right reasons (you do it yourself)

[MadCat]

I don't really see anything wrong with it as long as it's done for the right reasons (you do it for yourself)

what a croc of shit.

no, you dont do it for yourself.

[Mako]

Plastic surgery is for the extremely insecure, and plastic surgeons feed on that insecurity.

And you know damn well women don't do it for themself, they do it to compete with the other women doing it. If you want to do something for yourself, be happy with yourself the way you are, yourself will really appreciate it.

Wrong.

Some (not all, and probably not the majority, but some) do it simply because they want to see sexy curves looking back at them in the mirror. They have their own ideals as to what being beautiful is and want to satisfy them. These girls even cover up when they go clubbing, not wanting the attention from dipshit guys. They'd have it done even if they were going to spend the rest of their lives secluded on a desert island, it's 100% "for them".

Similar to aftermarket wheels on a car, I do it because I want to see the package looking good to myself, I could give a shit what anyone else thinks.

[aico]

Wrong.

Some (not all, and probably not the majority, but some) do it simply because they want to see sexy curves looking back at them in the mirror. They have their own ideals as to what being beautiful is and want to satisfy them. These girls even cover up when they go clubbing, not wanting the attention from dipshit guys. They'd have it done even if they were going to spend the rest of their lives secluded on a desert island, it's 100% "for them".

Similar to aftermarket wheels on a car, I do it because I want to see the package looking good to myself, I could give a shit what anyone else thinks.

I take it you don't know many girls. Oh, here's a tip, they love it when you compare them to aftermarket wheels...

[Funbrunette]

I read it quick and could have sworn it said
I don't really see anything wrong with it as long as it's done for the right reasons (you do it yourself)

ROFL!!!!! You had me do a double take...lol That would be awful! The reason I ask about plastic surgery is because I was watching Oprah a few weeks ago when I saw people addicted to it (This girl was 26 and had over 25 surgeries done) Now that's a bit much!

[Mako]

I take it you don't know many girls. Oh, here's a tip, they love it when you compare them to aftermarket wheels...

I compared the desire to improve something's looks for that single person to someone fixing up their car for themselves. Meaning they desire the right look just for their own reasons, not to please anyone else.

Nice try at a flame response though, got any more one liners?

[MaDalton]

Even though I'm male I still didn't regret having done something on my body
not at all
would do it again any time

you never told me you had a penis enlargement operation -

[minaroyale]

The way I see it is this....
If you need it, get it..if you just want it to out do the other chica that has DD's...don't do it if you feel you don't want to.
Reason being..I know plenty of people that DO need it. Bariatric patients with excess skin that need to have it removed, or need things lifted or augmented in order to 'fix' themselves back to the way they were. I lost 180 pounds. One and a half of myself...
In that case, I see nothing wrong with it.
And I say that..because I have been there...and I still have a few more to go. So I wouldn't condemn those people that want it, or have had it...let them do what they want, it's a free fucking country and if you want to call it insecure, then fine...but I don't judge...
So if you want the boobs...by all means, get them mother fuckers.
Whatever makes you happy...because in the end all you have to answer to is your own self, fuck what everyone else thinks...

[Trax]

you never told me you had a penis enlargement operation -

its been the nose i didn't like the way it was

[aico]

I compared the desire to improve something's looks for that single person to someone fixing up their car for themselves. Meaning they desire the right look just for their own reasons, not to please anyone else.

Nice try at a flame response though, got any more one liners?

Nope, I stand by my original statement that you obviously don't know much about women.

Oh and let me guess, that's a picture of your car, that you are displaying for everyone to see, but yet, aren't trying to impress anyone with it... your statement is such a crock of shit.

[brilsmurf]

daddy or the husband pays for it!

[Manowar]

daddy or the husband pays for it!

shut up brilsmurf you theif

[minaroyale]

Ok, boys and girls..sit down because I have a story to tell you...
Remember....in a time long, long, ago...
and a place far...far...away...(much like this one)
we had one girl post asking for a boob job?

Yes, Yes, that girl was my friend. Heather Hamptons....
Despite the flames she got and all the crap...guess what???
SHE GOT THEM.
(they look nice, too, gal...)

There goes sticking yourself out there and asking for it....seems to work.

Ok, I need a billion dollars, a house in the hamptons, a hummer....
(ROTFL)

--joke---

[Connie2000]

name what you want, send the bill to me.

May I also?

[pink_in_the_middle]

ROFL!!!!! You had me do a double take...lol That would be awful! The reason I ask about plastic surgery is because I was watching Oprah a few weeks ago when I saw people addicted to it (This girl was 26 and had over 25 surgeries done) Now that's a bit much!

The people on that show suffered from B.D.D - Body Dysmorphic Disorder.
I watched the same show, the girl you're talking about Jenny went a bit too far imo. She wants to cut herself all the way around her body and get herself pulled up, like a pair of pantyhose..!
Crazy woman. It all depends on the persons frame of mind. Some people just never feel good enough and try and fix it, but the problem isn't on the outside, it's in their head. But no matter what anyone tells them about how pretty they are they don't see it because all they see is the person they think isn't good enough.

I think people considering cosmetic surgery should be evaluated by a psychologist first to make sure they have both feet on the ground. People mostly women are trying to live up to this false idea of perfection and its killing peoples self esteem. Dove came out with a campaign for real beauty with women who look real. They are showing all their "flaws" to teach women to love their bodies. I love the commercials and think its about time something is done.

[poppet]

name what you want, send the bill to me.

Funbrunette doesn't need any surgery at all - she's already beautiful.

I, on the other hand...*sigh* Let's just say miracles don't come cheap.

[perfectodollars-gabrio]

my personal opinion is that, despite of work needs (read models or whatever), you should never go for surgery unless you have a real reason for doing it. i.e. for health issues or things like that, then its the right thing to do. but on the other hand, some people can't really like themselves as they are, so they do few mods here and there, but then there's another thing.....say you start doing one mod, then another....when will you stop? it's not an easy topic and discussions could go on forever.

[minaroyale]

I agree on the BDD...it's a serious illness.
It is almost the same as anorexics that look in the mirror and still see themselves as fat.

Remember the woman who wanted to look like a barbie doll and went through like 30 operations to do so? She is in england, I believe.

There is a limit to it. But then again, the media dictates what is in and what is not.

A while there was the rush for "J LO" booties....women were getting butt implants to get phat behinds...

Before that it was lip injections to make their lips more luscious and large...

Then it was botox to get rid of lines and wrinkles..

Boob jobs have always been there, but one dude told me they actually make women look OLDER to have big boobs...now that I look at it, it's true. Unless the girl has a fresh face, they do age a person.

That pic of that tranny...that is plastic surgery gone TOO FAR...she looks plastic and fake...almost like poor lil kim does now. She looked so cute back in the day when she had her real features. (shakes head)

Then there is Joan Rivers...the queen of plastic surgery.

If they have the money, people will do anything to achieve their vision of beauty...or the MEDIA's ideal of beauty.

The question is...WHO IS THE IDEAL we are putting ourselves up to and saying is the epitome of what-ever-ness?

Me, I just want to (and need to) do it to be myself again. It's funny when you feel like you are living in someone else's skin. I suppose this is what a person feels like before they come out of the closet...

[EroticySteve]

My calf and butt implants have gotten me more dates than I can count.

[Big Red Machine]

With the right reseach and the right doctor, and of course the right reasons.
Who cares. I guess its like tatoos everytime I want one, I wait 6 months to see if I still want it........I don't have any
There was 2 girls that I shot that had an awesome boob job. Then there were the FrankinBoobs. So whatever anyone chooses remember its your body and you get what you pay for. So don't go looking for a coupon

[Big Red Machine]

Then there is Joan Rivers...the queen of plastic surgery.

All you ever see of Joan is her Head. I bet if she took her dress off it would look like Montgomery Burns(old guy from the Simpsons.....lol)

[Funbrunette]

Funbrunette doesn't need any surgery at all - she's already beautiful.

I, on the other hand...*sigh* Let's just say miracles don't come cheap.

What a sweetie! Thanks Poppet!

[Raven]

Interesting discussion.

I have a healthy respect for plastic surgery. Women and men don't want to age and there are ways to slow it down, so why not?

Some women have boobs that cause back injuries. If a reduction helps, why not?

The excessive use of plastics, however, speaks more to internal emotional issues...that desire to be perfect....or never grow old. Gravity and Nature will win, no matter what....

I fear for women and men who are constantly trying to recreate themselves.....there are surgeries that cut muscle and nerves....and there is risk, every time we put ourselves under anesthesia....

What can go wrong often does.....but, when it's right, it's awesome.

[minaroyale]

Big red...care to share pics of the perfect boobs??????

[OMG Jim]

What's the difference between a mom with three kids and a MILF?

Liposuction!!!

Unless someone's features are grossly distorted then let looks be one of the things that makes us unique. I think women do it for themselves not only out of vanity but also to please those they want to please.

[J-$]

1st things 1st anyone that says they are doing it only for themselves is full of shit. you dont intend nor focus on the attention it will draw as you take it for granted. but havent you ever smiled when someone made you a compliment? there. we all feed on self esteem, some more, some less but still. now some girls are just born with defects and i can understand that. as for liposuccion, fake boobs, etc, that is just plain vicious. girls do it to get attention i dont care what you say. its the same reason why you wont leave the house without makeup in the mornings. (at this point some girl will claim that she does not use makeup so shes an exception GOOD FOR YOU!) call me mysogistic or however it is you write it loll but its a fact; girls are in constant competition. plus they have to disguise themselves in order to fool a man into supporting their lifestyles its allright though its not your fault, part of your brain's potential has to be saved for the reproductive function ;)

[minaroyale]

Yeah, most of what you said is a crock. (not of silicone..but of shit)

Are you female?

Can't be...you are an idiot in your statement.

Some people may get them for attention...
Some people may get them for medical reasons (like breast reconstruction due to cancer)
But leave the people who make that decision and the reasons WHY they make that decision alone...it is theirs. To judge them off of it, or to make stupid male comments like what you did... is dumb.

You want to know how much of the male brain is dedicated to reproduction? The level of hormones in the male's body? And why was the porn industry created? To satisfy the needs of men.
Just lately it has been swinging more to satisfy the needs of women..and get more artistic in nature rather than animalistic...

So if we want to get bigger boobs or bigger butts or lips of whatever, and say we are doing it for ourselves (if we are telling the truth or not) leave it be. The fact that we care enough about ourselves to feel attractive...or even want to feel attractive to others, or even feel better about ourselves...is a healthy thing for the self esteem. Overdoing it, is NOT (as we all have stated).


Brain's potential for reproductive function, my flat azz...


Your statement was so sexest it makes me want to puke. Come into the 21st century, would you?

[minaroyale]

But I love you for expressing your opinion.
Don't get me wrong...

Group hug.

[J-$]

well i am pretty damn sure we are not talking about medical reasons here are we? im not. yes my statement is very sexist as i am. i believe most girls lack attention why would you disguise yourself with makeup every morning? so you can look better than you really are? way to go self esteem ;) i also generalize from a personnal experience of mine. one of my ex's had her boobs done while with me but was unconfortable dropping the top in the bed i then proceeded to conclude that if it wasnt for me, and it sure as shit werent for her since she already looked fuckin great, it was for other people. we all want attention on different levels, however females seem to base their whole lifestyles upon first impressions. i would say that over 60% of products that are female-targetted have to do with looks, and thats irrefutable. therefore we live in a democracy so except for a few dykes and a few ugly beeyatches, they all have seen the power that looks give to them, and therefore i understand WHY they would do it. i just find it down right vicious. im not saying you have bad intentions or anything, BUT i believe men are stronger in their commitments. yes it is sexist, it is a lots of things but most of all its true. anybody who denies that is biased and is judging from "exceptions" or "minorities". and i still love you too, lets group hug so i can feel your fake boobs bouncing on my well-trained pecs (see i work out i do it for my health but subconsciously i probably enjoy the look it gives me too...plus at least i earned it heheh)

[KCat]

why would you disguise yourself with makeup every morning? so you can look better than you really are? way to go self esteem ;)

Who puts on make-up every morning past the age of 18??? I don't have a single female friend who has time to waste on that shit. I remember getting up 30 minutes earlier than I had to back in high school so I could do my make-up, but by the time I hit college, way too many other priorities.

Now I put on make-up if I'm going out for a nice dinner or I'm doing a shoot. Otherwise, just way too busy.

As for plastic surgery, it is really none of anyone else's business. It must be nice to sit high on your throne & judge everyone else. That holier than thou attitude is so very attractive & not something money can buy!

[J-$]

its the same reason why you wont leave the house without makeup in the mornings. (at this point some girl will claim that she does not use makeup so shes an exception GOOD FOR YOU!)

look there is no point in arguing this. the other girl mentionned that men have hormones and that porn is an industry made exclusively to fill the male need. now i can find exceptions, and plenty of them, but the truth of the matter is, most men are obsessed with sex, and most females are attention whores. im not saying each and every single one of you is. not each and every1 of you had surgery either. point being : quit living in denial

[sickkittens]

You can start a thread on GFY and your boob job will be paid for.

p.s. I don't think there is anythign wrong w/ it...in moderation.

[minaroyale]

KCat has a good point.

Attention whore? (geez.....)

And I earned my boobs as much as you earned your pecs. No man bought anything for me, and no man should have to. Just like women who wear hair weaves and extensions as well...when people ask if it's their hair...they say "Yeah it's mine.... I BOUGHT IT- even got the reciept..want to see?". Same principle.

What you say is true due to the sadness of the media and societies views on women and how we SHOULD act and SHOULD be. I am no dyke or femme (yet I would declare myself a feminist)...but I would defend a woman anyday over the statements of a sexist, silly over testorone filled man.
But I still love men. And sometimes, I agree, women can act dumb as well. So we are both in the same boat....yet.....

It's a choice with the plastic surgery thing. Let's leave it at that. Topic getting old. (yawn)

Now can we end this topic?