Which Backup Processor - Paycom or Verotel?

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  • menatplay
    Registered User
    • Oct 2002
    • 18

    #1

    Which Backup Processor - Paycom or Verotel?

    Hey im adding a second processor to my site so I can catch all the declines made by CCbill, who Im currently processing with. Infact since my current processing rates with CCBill are so high i might actually use the new one as my primary procesor if they are cheaper.

    Im debating between Paycom and Verotel, each of which has its plus points

    Paycom - Accept Switch and Solo which would open a whole new market of customers in the UK. anyone have any feedback on this?

    Verotel - Multi currency billing (nice touch), European Direct Debit.


    Or is there anyne else i should consider that offers all of the above in one package? Any info on this matter would be a huge help.eg. how do tehy compare in service, pricing etc.

    cheers
  • Steen2
    Confirmed User
    • Feb 2004
    • 7662

    #2
    I think Paycom and then as you grow add Verotel as well.
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    • synapse
      NameNetwork.com
      • Jan 2003
      • 1175

      #3
      Personally I'd suggest you use both ... ccbill primary then fail over (technically or through support) to paycom ... then use verotel primarily for u'r EU traffic

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      • EuroBill
        Registered User
        • Aug 2005
        • 13

        #4
        @synapse

        To be honest, we are not interested in being someones backup processor number nineteen but if you have European traffic you should definitely give us a try!

        We process credit cards of all major European countries and offer Direct Debit payment for Germany, Austria, Netherlands and Switzerland as well. All web forms implement a Geo-Targeting system which automatically offers your surfers an appropriate language. The display of the prices of your products and services can be configured to be shown in many different currencies, making it possible for your customers to pay in their own, familiar local currency.

        Please contact me via email or ICQ if you have further questions.

        regards
        Tim
        Support Team
        EuroBill

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        • menatplay
          Registered User
          • Oct 2002
          • 18

          #5
          Hey thanks for the advice... sounds good.

          Ill have a look into Eurobill too, looks interesting, i hadnt considered it.

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          • spooky181
            Confirmed User
            • Jul 2003
            • 2951

            #6
            Verotel have been great for us...

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            • NETbilling
              Confirmed User
              • Jan 2002
              • 8598

              #7
              We are here is you need us as well with incredible rates and top notch support.

              Thank you, Mitch Farber


              Mitch Farber
              CEO - NETbilling, Inc.
              Email / Phone: 888-357-8166 / 661-252-2456
              Transaction processing & 24/7 call center services with exceptional rates and flexibility, since 1998!

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              • Theo
                HAL 9000
                • May 2001
                • 34515

                #8
                i would go with epoch

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                • synapse
                  NameNetwork.com
                  • Jan 2003
                  • 1175

                  #9
                  Originally posted by NetBilling
                  We are here is you need us as well with incredible rates and top notch support.

                  Thank you, Mitch Farber
                  Mitch you have no idea how much I wish you guys could helps us, but as an Australian company, even with a NV LLC, we've been told NetBilling would have to run our bank through croatia or somewhere crazy, no thanx ... if we could get set up with NetBilling we'd never need any other processor

                  To anyone who is in the USA though and you wanna take u'r biz to the next lvl hit up Mitch

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                  • menatplay
                    Registered User
                    • Oct 2002
                    • 18

                    #10
                    Hi Mitch, I think i contacted Netbilling a few months ago and as far as I remember there was a problem because we are a UK regsitered business. is this right?

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                    • Ben.Z
                      Confirmed User
                      • Sep 2004
                      • 1164

                      #11
                      Don't forget about online checks!!!

                      If your not accepting ACH (online checks) on your sites, your leaving money on the table!

                      WTS-Bank is the oldest and largest check processor in the industry, and we process for the majority of the largest programs on the AdultNet. In business since 1997, WTS pioneered ACH processing on the Internet and has evolved into the most complete solution available for recurring membership sites. Complete with username/password management, cross-sales, membership upgrades, loyalty offerings, in-house collections and the best merchant support in the industry... WTS also only charges on COLLECTED monies, and there are no other fee's!

                      There are no costs to get setup, and our staff will have you up and taking transactions within 24-48 hours.

                      Drop me a line, or fill out our online application at the link above for more information.

                      I hope to hear from you!

                      Kind Regards,
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                      Contact me: Ben Z. (ben|AT|CardReady.com) ICQ_138827832
                      Toll Free: 1.888.398.6001 Ext.212

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                      • Fetish
                        Confirmed User
                        • Mar 2005
                        • 823

                        #12
                        Originally posted by synapse
                        Mitch you have no idea how much I wish you guys could helps us, but as an Australian company, even with a NV LLC, we've been told NetBilling would have to run our bank through croatia or somewhere crazy, no thanx ... if we could get set up with NetBilling we'd never need any other processor

                        To anyone who is in the USA though and you wanna take u'r biz to the next lvl hit up Mitch
                        Yeah - Netbilling has been our primary for years now. Nobody can touch them IMO.

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                        • Fetish
                          Confirmed User
                          • Mar 2005
                          • 823

                          #13
                          Originally posted by menatplay
                          Hi Mitch, I think i contacted Netbilling a few months ago and as far as I remember there was a problem because we are a UK regsitered business. is this right?
                          I know they have UK banks that they work with as well but I think you havew to be doing 75k per month to get a merchant account there. I will ICQ mitch and ask him to respond on this thread again.

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                          • TheDoc
                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                            • Jul 2001
                            • 13827

                            #14
                            Originally posted by NetBilling
                            We are here is you need us as well with incredible rates and top notch support.

                            Thank you, Mitch Farber

                            The way I understood things is you guys don't have any open banks currently.. They are all full.. I have been waiting for like 4 weeks for a bank to open high-risk processing..
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                            • Kimmykim
                              bitchslapping zebras!!!!!
                              • Jun 2001
                              • 16015

                              #15
                              Hey Chris, tell your wife to check her icq

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                              • Dalai lama
                                Strength and Honor
                                • Jul 2004
                                • 16540

                                #16
                                Go with epoch. Many extra features to make $

                                A program you can trust.
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                                • Radik
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Sep 2003
                                  • 808

                                  #17
                                  Verotel is great if you use wire xfers.. cheques get lost. Thats about all i know i've never not been paid.

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                                  • menatplay
                                    Registered User
                                    • Oct 2002
                                    • 18

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Dalai lama
                                    Go with epoch. Many extra features to make $
                                    arent Epoch and paycom the same?

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                                    • EZRhino
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Jul 2003
                                      • 6258

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by NetBilling
                                      We are here is you need us as well with incredible rates and top notch support.

                                      Thank you, Mitch Farber
                                      I got to admit that Netbilling did give my killer customer and technical support.

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                                      • NETbilling
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Jan 2002
                                        • 8598

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by EZRhino
                                        I got to admit that Netbilling did give my killer customer and technical support.
                                        Why thank you very much!

                                        Mitch


                                        Mitch Farber
                                        CEO - NETbilling, Inc.
                                        Email / Phone: 888-357-8166 / 661-252-2456
                                        Transaction processing & 24/7 call center services with exceptional rates and flexibility, since 1998!

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                                        • AdultMegaCash
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Aug 2004
                                          • 1017

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by NetBilling
                                          We are here is you need us as well with incredible rates and top notch support.

                                          Thank you, Mitch Farber
                                          Netbilling should be your first choice man. Great rates, and support. We've never looked back
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                                          • Fetish
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Mar 2005
                                            • 823

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by AdultMegaCash
                                            Netbilling should be your first choice man. Great rates, and support. We've never looked back
                                            No shit man. We save so much money every year with them over using third party processing it is rediculous.

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                                            • AdultMegaCash
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Aug 2004
                                              • 1017

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Fetish
                                              No shit man. We save so much money every year with them over using third party processing it is rediculous.
                                              Do not use Jay AKA Bannerdept.com Click HERE for reasons why!

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                                              • bigdog
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Jul 2001
                                                • 6964

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by AdultMegaCash
                                                Netbilling should be your first choice man. Great rates, and support. We've never looked back
                                                well you need your own merchant account before you use netbilling

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                                                • OY
                                                  Industry Pioneer
                                                  • Oct 2002
                                                  • 5401

                                                  #25
                                                  You should not limit yourself to only 1, 2 or even 3 ways of getting paid. Use at least 2 - 3 credit card processors in a cascade, add a solid check processor for the US markets, declined cards or check transactions you should send to either Chargemelater.com or 123Bill.com - add a telephone billing option for those surfers that prefer that, direct debit solutions for EU market and so on...

                                                  - in general, OPTIMIZE OPTIMIZE OPTIMIZE!

                                                  Around since 1997, and the company that introduced "Cascading Billing" in MPA3® Affiliate Management and Tracking Software

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                                                  • born
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • Oct 2001
                                                    • 588

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by NetBilling
                                                    We are here is you need us as well with incredible rates and top notch support.

                                                    Thank you, Mitch Farber

                                                    I agree with Mitch... With NB you will get awesome rates (using your own Merchant account) and their customer service/End user support is second to none!!! Very professional and they know all the tricks to maximize your $$$.


                                                    B-

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                                                    • OY
                                                      Industry Pioneer
                                                      • Oct 2002
                                                      • 5401

                                                      #27
                                                      Clients of ours using Netbilling report of very very good results and you can use them in a true cascade in combination with a third party processor as well.

                                                      Around since 1997, and the company that introduced "Cascading Billing" in MPA3® Affiliate Management and Tracking Software

                                                      Outsourcing With A Norwegian Twist - NordBits - Inquire within!

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                                                      • KGucci
                                                        Confirmed User
                                                        • Jun 2004
                                                        • 653

                                                        #28
                                                        Mentaplay~ Hit me up on ICQ 234-382-798 to talk about SegPay as an alternative.

                                                        Certified EU IPSP
                                                        Secure Payments
                                                        Weekly Payouts
                                                        Funds held by the bank
                                                        Full documented
                                                        Fully traceable
                                                        Each wire is bonded
                                                        Payouts in your selected currency


                                                        www.SegPay.com
                                                        KGreer at SegPay dot com
                                                        Skype: kgucci

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                                                        • Fetish
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Mar 2005
                                                          • 823

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by KGucci
                                                          Mentaplay~ Hit me up on ICQ 234-382-798 to talk about SegPay as an alternative.

                                                          Certified EU IPSP
                                                          Secure Payments
                                                          Weekly Payouts
                                                          Funds held by the bank
                                                          Full documented
                                                          Fully traceable
                                                          Each wire is bonded
                                                          Payouts in your selected currency

                                                          What banks do you use?

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                                                          • NETbilling
                                                            Confirmed User
                                                            • Jan 2002
                                                            • 8598

                                                            #30
                                                            Thanks for the kind words everyone. Can I answer questions for anybody??

                                                            Mitch


                                                            Mitch Farber
                                                            CEO - NETbilling, Inc.
                                                            Email / Phone: 888-357-8166 / 661-252-2456
                                                            Transaction processing & 24/7 call center services with exceptional rates and flexibility, since 1998!

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                                                            • menatplay
                                                              Registered User
                                                              • Oct 2002
                                                              • 18

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by NetBilling
                                                              Thanks for the kind words everyone. Can I answer questions for anybody??

                                                              Mitch
                                                              Yes please Mitch, so where do we stand as a UK regsitered company wanting to open a merchant account and process with Netbilling?

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                                                              • DutchTeenCash
                                                                I like Dutch Girls
                                                                • Feb 2003
                                                                • 21684

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by KGucci
                                                                Mentaplay~ Hit me up on ICQ 234-382-798 to talk about SegPay as an alternative.

                                                                Certified EU IPSP
                                                                Secure Payments
                                                                Weekly Payouts
                                                                Funds held by the bank
                                                                Full documented
                                                                Fully traceable
                                                                Each wire is bonded
                                                                Payouts in your selected currency

                                                                that email template weve got was a complete joke messy as hell and lotsa errors. Plus imho 25c per transactions sucks, its another way of increasing costs.

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                                                                • throwdown
                                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                                  • Aug 2005
                                                                  • 997

                                                                  #33
                                                                  paycom of course

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                                                                  • KGucci
                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                    • Jun 2004
                                                                    • 653

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by Fetish
                                                                    What banks do you use?
                                                                    Fetish ~ Please contact me via ICQ (234-382-798) or email [email protected] to go over your question. Thanks!

                                                                    www.SegPay.com
                                                                    KGreer at SegPay dot com
                                                                    Skype: kgucci

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                                                                    • KGucci
                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                      • Jun 2004
                                                                      • 653

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by thinkx
                                                                      that email template weve got was a complete joke messy as hell and lotsa errors. Plus imho 25c per transactions sucks, its another way of increasing costs.

                                                                      thinkx ~ Thanks for bringing this to my attention. Can you please contact me via ICQ (234-382-798) or email [email protected]. I would be happy to talk about the rates and the transaction fees. Thanks!

                                                                      www.SegPay.com
                                                                      KGreer at SegPay dot com
                                                                      Skype: kgucci

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                                                                      • Fetish
                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                        • Mar 2005
                                                                        • 823

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by KGucci
                                                                        thinkx ~ Thanks for bringing this to my attention. Can you please contact me via ICQ (234-382-798) or email [email protected]. I would be happy to talk about the rates and the transaction fees. Thanks!
                                                                        Isn't SEGpay old Ibill owners?

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                                                                        • kmanrox
                                                                          aka K-Man
                                                                          • Oct 2001
                                                                          • 29295

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Paycom - its a no brainer.... i read threads about verotel going out of business at least once a week.... Paycom is stellar and not going anywhere.
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                                                                          • basschick
                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                            • Jan 2001
                                                                            • 2540

                                                                            #38
                                                                            paycom, for sure!
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                                                                            • Webby
                                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                              • Oct 2002
                                                                              • 14956

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by Fetish
                                                                              Isn't SEGpay old Ibill owners?
                                                                              Yep! IBill born and bred.
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                                                                              • spunkmaster
                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                • Jan 2004
                                                                                • 2052

                                                                                #40
                                                                                Netbilling is one of the best for US Merchants !

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                                                                                • xxxice
                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                  • Feb 2002
                                                                                  • 5042

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Paycom

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                                                                                  • Validus
                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                    • Jul 2001
                                                                                    • 4012

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    If it was me, I would use Paycom. Best a combination of CCBill and Paycom if possible.

                                                                                    Maybe even a merchant account, which however can bare many risks with it.

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                                                                                    • KGucci
                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                      • Jun 2004
                                                                                      • 653

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by Webby
                                                                                      Yep! IBill born and bred.

                                                                                      Segpay has no relationship to iBill.

                                                                                      A small group of us at SegPay did work at iBill at one time or another. We wanted to stay in the industry and continue working at an IPSP. That is the only tie back to iBill. None of us had any ownership in the company.

                                                                                      This seems to be a common theme coming from you so if you would contact me I would be happy to talk to you personally to clear this up.

                                                                                      www.SegPay.com
                                                                                      KGreer at SegPay dot com
                                                                                      Skype: kgucci

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                                                                                      • NETbilling
                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                        • Jan 2002
                                                                                        • 8598

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by spunkmaster
                                                                                        Netbilling is one of the best for US Merchants !
                                                                                        Thank you very much! We also handle many offshore merchants too and provide call center services for many companies not even processing with us.

                                                                                        Thanks again, Mitch Farber


                                                                                        Mitch Farber
                                                                                        CEO - NETbilling, Inc.
                                                                                        Email / Phone: 888-357-8166 / 661-252-2456
                                                                                        Transaction processing & 24/7 call center services with exceptional rates and flexibility, since 1998!

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