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  • lafae
    So Fucking Banned
    • Aug 2002
    • 30

    #1

    Search engine submitters?

    Would you advise using them (topdog, dynamic sub. tgpware, etc..)? What is the best way to go about getting SE traffic?
  • -=HOAX=-
    Confirmed User
    • Dec 2001
    • 4365

    #2
    build, optimize, submit....rinse and repeat.
    Insert Value Here.

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    • WiredGuy
      Pounding Googlebot
      • Aug 2002
      • 34512

      #3
      I wrote a review on some of the submitter software out there:
      http://www.submitcorner.com/Software/

      Stay away from TopDog, the company is having some internal problems and I revoked my review I had on them a few weeks ago (they had a top review). The product is good, but the company is shaky.

      WG
      I play with Google.

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      • FATPad
        Confirmed User
        • Oct 2001
        • 6693

        #4
        People actually submit to SE's still?
        <a href="http://www.adultcontent.co.uk">Adult Content UK - Great British Content</a>

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        • Dopy
          Confirmed User
          • Feb 2001
          • 1572

          #5
          Originally posted by FATPad
          People actually submit to SE's still?

          But of course they do, there are places at the top for everyone LOL

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          • faytl
            Confirmed User
            • Jul 2002
            • 121

            #6
            SE submission programs are a waste of time, it's easier/better to do it all manually. It's also never as simple as just submitting and forgetting.

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            • lafae
              So Fucking Banned
              • Aug 2002
              • 30

              #7
              Well thank you for the responses. So what is the best way as far as optimizing and submitting?

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              • JFPdude
                Confirmed User
                • Jan 2002
                • 4027

                #8
                Originally posted by faytl
                SE submission programs are a waste of time, it's easier/better to do it all manually. It's also never as simple as just submitting and forgetting.

                Absolutely right !!!!

                http://www.searchenginewatch.com ... learn it, love it, know it

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                • Techie Media
                  Confirmed User
                  • Jan 2001
                  • 3092

                  #9
                  JFPdude, thats a good link,

                  I see your in PA, will you be going to the conference in Philli next weekend?...if yes I would like to meet you?
                  Last edited by Techie Media; 08-30-2002, 10:11 PM.


                  sales [AT] techiemedia.com

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                  • Terenzo
                    Confirmed User
                    • Jan 2002
                    • 971

                    #10
                    don't submit, it doesn't help much.

                    dos:
                    swap links as much as you can. build your own small private linklists and hubs. crosslink your pages. have everything linked with oldfashioned hardcoded style.

                    donts:
                    stay away from toplists and lists giving you a xxxxx.cgi?3439 link back. do not spam or make too many similar pages.

                    if you find good linklists then you have to wait 2-4 months and you will see results.
                    Signature Spot - USD 5000 / month

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                    • Theo
                      HAL 9000
                      • May 2001
                      • 34515

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Terenzo
                      don't submit, it doesn't help much.

                      dos:
                      crosslink your pages.


                      wrong :-) at least for google corsslinking doesnt help anymore

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                      • vegasdude
                        Confirmed User
                        • Jul 2001
                        • 3649

                        #12
                        I get new top5 placements everyday

                        hardwork but worth it...

                        I have a friend who is a SE expert... his fee starts at $1k but the best money i have ever given out!

                        google marry me!
                        Did you fucking talk to me??!
                        Who the fuck told you to talk to me??!"

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                        • Shady
                          Confirmed User
                          • Jun 2002
                          • 377

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Soul_Rebel




                          wrong :-) at least for google corsslinking doesnt help anymore
                          hes right . google will ban you now with trying to increase your link popularity by cross linking websites.
                          I know AV and others are ok with it.


                          Tired of cookie cutter sites?

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                          • Terenzo
                            Confirmed User
                            • Jan 2002
                            • 971

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Soul_Rebel




                            wrong :-) at least for google corsslinking doesnt help anymore
                            i am still watching great results with it.
                            site1 links to site2,4,6,8
                            site2 links to site3,5,7,9
                            site3 links to site4,6,8,10
                            site4 links to site5,7,9,11
                            site5 links to site6,8,10,12
                            site6 links to site7,9,11,13
                            ...
                            ...

                            ... it's just a shitload of work to keep track of what is linked with what, if this gets me banned all the tgps will be banned, amazon will be banned, however.
                            Signature Spot - USD 5000 / month

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                            • chodadog
                              Confirmed User
                              • Apr 2002
                              • 9736

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Shady


                              hes right . google will ban you now with trying to increase your link popularity by cross linking websites.
                              I know AV and others are ok with it.
                              I don't think that's entirely true. There's a difference between cross linking pages and creating doorway pages. Many sites are in "networks" that will obviously link to every other site in the network, thus, creating the cross link.

                              Hell, even Yahoo does it. I dobut their reason is for link popularity, they do it for the user's benefit.

                              http://www.yahoo.com

                              Go to the bottom of the page:

                              <i>Local Yahoo's</i>

                              All the various international yahoo pages have those links, which creates the cross link effect. So obviously, there is a difference between doorway cross linking and legitimate cross linking. How google is able to differentiate between the two is beyond me, but that crazy google bot has plenty of tricks up it's sleave.
                              26 + 6 = 1

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