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  • Zester
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    • Jul 2003
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    #1

    programers: Java, PHP, Perl, ASP, ASP.NET

    which of the above do you find yourself using more than others for internet usage and for what exactly?

    I have some knowledge of PHP, Perl and ASP and never really needed to use more than that for the very simple internet application I created. (tgp script, traffic trade script etc.)

    I'm thinking about learning Java, C++ or ASP.NET but I wonder what the hell to do with that knowledge once I obtain it in the internet arena

    I know this might sound ignorant
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  • StickyGreen
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    • Oct 2003
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    #2
    i use whatever i can understand quickly...
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    • BlueWire
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      • Nov 2004
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      #3
      PHP by far...

      These day the only thing we use perl for is spidering pages....asp is slow as hell. We never use it unless we are taking over an abandoned ASP project

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      • Babaganoosh
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        • Nov 2001
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        Perl mostly, PHP for dynamic content.
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        • Zester
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          • Jul 2003
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          #5
          nobody is using Java, C++, .NET ?
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          • Babaganoosh
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            #6
            Originally posted by Zester
            nobody is using Java, C++, .NET ?
            Java and .net are usually overkill for web applications. I am using C++ on one site that I manage for geo ip ads that get a lot of views.
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            • MGPspots
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              • Jan 2005
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              #7
              ASP.NET is the bomb for web apps. Can't see how it is overkill as it is very easy to use so the learning curve is not so steep. For example, check out how easy it is to create XML webservices, or even signup forms.

              ASP.NET 2 is due out at the end of the year and has lots of sexy new features.
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              • Babaganoosh
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                #8
                Originally posted by MGPspots
                ASP.NET is the bomb for web apps. Can't see how it is overkill as it is very easy to use so the learning curve is not so steep. For example, check out how easy it is to create XML webservices, or even signup forms.

                ASP.NET 2 is due out at the end of the year and has lots of sexy new features.
                The fact that it is proprietary makes it a poor choice. If Zend gets their hooks any deeper in PHP it might go the same direction.
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                • Zester
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                  • Jul 2003
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by MGPspots
                  ASP.NET is the bomb for web apps. Can't see how it is overkill as it is very easy to use so the learning curve is not so steep. For example, check out how easy it is to create XML webservices, or even signup forms.

                  ASP.NET 2 is due out at the end of the year and has lots of sexy new features.
                  what do you use ASP.NET for?
                  don't you have a problem with non windows servers with ASP.NET?
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                  • Skripter
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                    • May 2005
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                    #10
                    PHP. ASP is just not powerful enough. I will use it if a customer requests it, but I don't like to.

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                    • Zester
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                      • Jul 2003
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Skripter
                      PHP. ASP is just not powerful enough. I will use it if a customer requests it, but I don't like to.
                      you mean .NET ?
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                      • Skripter
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                        • May 2005
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                        #12
                        Either or. IMO, ASP.NET is just about the same as ASP. Except that it is object oriented.

                        ASP.NET really pissed me off because I have to use response.write() to inject html into my script. At least with ASP i didn't have to do that.

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                        • MGPspots
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                          • Jan 2005
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                          #13
                          ASP and ASP.NET are pretty damn different. .NET is compiled, old ASP is more like scripting. Fully managed code, controls like Datagrids for db queries etc.

                          Having to use a windows server isn't too much of a bind - a bucks extra (unless you need dedicated servers etc)
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                          • bret
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                            • Aug 2003
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Skripter
                            Either or. IMO, ASP.NET is just about the same as ASP. Except that it is object oriented.

                            ASP.NET really pissed me off because I have to use response.write() to inject html into my script. At least with ASP i didn't have to do that.
                            stick to scripting languages.

                            .NET is light years ahead of PHP, and it's still a baby.

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                            • etech
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                              • Feb 2004
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                              #15
                              Im using JSP(JAVA) for big projects, and PHP if the customer request it.

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                              • Skripter
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                                • May 2005
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                                #16
                                Okay. I still don't see how ASP.NET is lightyears ahead of PHP.

                                Because ASP.NET supports VB, C Sharp, and JScript? There aren't many real world situations that make that a neccesity. Or at least in my experience.

                                I'm not trying to bash on your opinion.. just asking how exactly its lightyears ahead. PHP is powerful and practical. Not to mention compatable across all serer platforms.

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                                • Zester
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                                  • Jul 2003
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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Skripter
                                  Okay. I still don't see how ASP.NET is lightyears ahead of PHP.

                                  Because ASP.NET supports VB, C Sharp, and JScript? There aren't many real world situations that make that a neccesity. Or at least in my experience.
                                  point right there
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                                  • Zester
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                                    • Jul 2003
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                                    #18
                                    i think i'm gonna learn Java and C#
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                                      #19
                                      PHP all the way

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                                      • Zester
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                                        • Jul 2003
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                                        #20
                                        people who program in C# and Java think PHP is: "cute" but for babies
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                                        • Nookster
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                                          • Nov 2005
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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Zester
                                          people who program in C# and Java think PHP is: "cute" but for babies
                                          It's true...C is much more expandable and you can do much more with it. But, PHP is extremely easy to learn and already has a lot of functions and whatnot coded right into it that you would otherwise have to code yourself with your C projects. Personally, I love PHP. I'll only get into C if i'm coding an actual application. If it's for the web PHP is my baby.
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