Owned in Fallujah

[AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE]

http://www.ridingthrumemphis.com/images/IH/bomb.wmv


"Oh dude"


Pretty crazy footage.

[Eric]

"take em out"

[AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE]

Thats a good 30-40 people with that bomb.

[Screaming]

man i was eatting

[FunForOne]

"take em out"

Just that simple

[directfiesta]

OLD as hell...

That is from the beginning of "LIBERATION '....

[AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE]

And here's the breakdown on that video:
This is a video from a F16 doing CAS during the recent fighting in Fallujah. We have been bombing insurgent "safe houses" with some success recently.

This F16 was on such a mission, to hit a building with an LGB.
After the weapon had been launched 30+ insurgents left the building enmasse to hurry to a nearby engagement with US Marines. The fighting had been going on for hours.

The pilot communicates with the FAC either in the air or on the ground, and changes the flight path of the bomb while it is enroute the target.

You can clearly see the "L" flashing in the MFD, and TGP is
selected.

The high pitched "Darth Vader" sounds you hear is the pilot
breathing.

It is the pilot who says "I got numerous individuals on the road, do you want me to take those out?" The FAC says "Take em out!"

Now I must put this in focus for you so you can get a glimpse into the complexities of the modern battlefield and the flexibility's of the modern U.S. war fighter.

You have a super-sonic high performance aircraft being driven by a single pilot who, under the tactical! control of a FAC, launches a precision guided munition (PGM) at a designated structure (building).

The pilot uses the aircraft's laser guidance video display to guide the weapon to the target (precision). Remember, he is also flying the aircraft. The pilot sees the video on his heads-up display and notices a bunch of combatants leaving the targeted building, turning the corner and heading down the street towards an active firefight. The pilot advises the FAC of the change in the status of the target requesting to target the combatants en route the fire fight rather than hitting an empty building. Permission is granted and death and destruction rain down.

Just in case the abbreviations are not part of your every day
vernacular I have expanded them below:

CAS = Close Air Support
LGB = Laser Guided Bomb
FAC = Forward Air Controller
MFD = Multi Function Display
TGP = Terminally Guided Projectile

[directfiesta]

And here's the breakdown on that video:
This is a video from a F16 doing CAS during the recent fighting in Fallujah. We have been bombing insurgent "safe houses" with some success recently.

This F16 was on such a mission, to hit a building with an LGB.
After the weapon had been launched 30+ insurgents left the building enmasse to hurry to a nearby engagement with US Marines. The fighting had been going on for hours.

The pilot communicates with the FAC either in the air or on the ground, and changes the flight path of the bomb while it is enroute the target.

You can clearly see the "L" flashing in the MFD, and TGP is
selected.

The high pitched "Darth Vader" sounds you hear is the pilot
breathing.

It is the pilot who says "I got numerous individuals on the road, do you want me to take those out?" The FAC says "Take em out!"

Now I must put this in focus for you so you can get a glimpse into the complexities of the modern battlefield and the flexibility's of the modern U.S. war fighter.

You have a super-sonic high performance aircraft being driven by a single pilot who, under the tactical! control of a FAC, launches a precision guided munition (PGM) at a designated structure (building).

The pilot uses the aircraft's laser guidance video display to guide the weapon to the target (precision). Remember, he is also flying the aircraft. The pilot sees the video on his heads-up display and notices a bunch of combatants leaving the targeted building, turning the corner and heading down the street towards an active firefight. The pilot advises the FAC of the change in the status of the target requesting to target the combatants en route the fire fight rather than hitting an empty building. Permission is granted and death and destruction rain down.

Just in case the abbreviations are not part of your every day
vernacular I have expanded them below:

CAS = Close Air Support
LGB = Laser Guided Bomb
FAC = Forward Air Controller
MFD = Multi Function Display
TGP = Terminally Guided Projectile

Got a boner ?

[nap]

It looks like he is playing a video game.

[Downtime]

Got a boner ?

HAHA that's one of the funniest things I've read in a long fucking time haha

[STD]

And we have a new shiny piece of glass formaly known as Iraq

[Just_Dave]

thats is crazy shit

[xclusive]

wow the power is amazing

[loverboy]

ending a life in just a push of a button, crazy shit

[AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE]

wow the power is amazing

Kinda scary really.
Them guys thought they were heading to a little gun fight.

[Luc]

"oh, dude!" - interesting thing to say after killing some 30 people with a click
of a button.

watching shit like this just pisses me off. there could have been innocent
people there.

[fireorange]

Hi, welcome to 1846.

[SmokeyTheBear]

"oh, dude!" - interesting thing to say after killing some 30 people with a click
of a button.

watching shit like this just pisses me off. there could have been innocent
people there.

Well supposedly they were insurgents going to attack marines, but i must say that looks like the most disorganized group of soldiers i have ever seen, They look more like kids following the pied piper to me..

Have you ever seen soldiers running in such a disorganized group ?

To be fair though , the pilot knows alot more about the situaution than we do.

[fireorange]

One version is that they are insurgents about to attack a US military position and the second version is that it's Iraqi civilians protesting against the occupation in an march

[directfiesta]

What difference with Saddam " gassing his own people " ... None... Just a switch of dictator.

[Libertine]

What difference with Saddam " gassing his own people " ... None... Just a switch of dictator.

Bullshit.

[Bird]

thats history

that's bible history

sodom and gamorrah

[directfiesta]

Bullshit.

Well, isn'it the new reason:

Regime change ???

The US killed 30 people because they were " alleged" insurgents ...

I think if it would have been 40, wouldn't have changed a thing.
Or even a hundred .. .( they killed as many yesterday on the border )
How about 250 ?????

So Saddam gassed civilians that were uprising...

The US are killing civilians that are uprising ...

Difference please ....

[V_RocKs]

Got a boner ?

My dick is chubbed and pulsing and fully erect right now. Thanks for asking!

[FunForOne]

Well, isn'it the new reason:

Regime change ???

The US killed 30 people because they were " alleged" insurgents ...

I think if it would have been 40, wouldn't have changed a thing.
Or even a hundred .. .( they killed as many yesterday on the border )
How about 250 ?????

So Saddam gassed civilians that were uprising...

The US are killing civilians that are uprising ...

Difference please ....

Members of the UN and family members aren't getting paid to look the other way, they are just helpless this time.

[V_RocKs]

Well, isn'it the new reason:

Regime change ???

The US killed 30 people because they were " alleged" insurgents ...

I think if it would have been 40, wouldn't have changed a thing.
Or even a hundred .. .( they killed as many yesterday on the border )
How about 250 ?????

So Saddam gassed civilians that were uprising...

The US are killing civilians that are uprising ...

Difference please ....

The difference here is that you just need to shut the fuck up or you are next.

[V_RocKs]

Well supposedly they were insurgents going to attack marines, but i must say that looks like the most disorganized group of soldiers i have ever seen, They look more like kids following the pied piper to me..

Have you ever seen soldiers running in such a disorganized group ?

To be fair though , the pilot knows alot more about the situaution than we do.

Looks like they forgot their dehydrated water. This kinda shit would never happen to me, thanks to you, Boss!

[Phoenix]

noice..the one guy says..."oh dude"...lol they probably burn and go killing

[Xplicit]

I love you stupid fucking hippies......

If Someone says "We won the Iraq war".

...You say "But we're still being attacked by insurgents on a daily basis, with ambushes, roadside bombs, carbombs and more." (which is true btw, i agree with you up to this point)

But then someone shows you a video, of those same insurgents you just acknowledged, leaving a building that weapons were fired from, heading towards another firefight with marines, we kill them, and you say "oh those poor innocent people"

Will you fucking DECIDE what you think???

Or your stance is "insurgents can attack american soldiers and we will not shoot or bomb them back" ???

You ididots make no sense.

[davethetruth]

The US are killing civilians that are uprising ...

Difference please ....

They're not killing civilians, they're killing insurgents... Most of which are not iraqi.

[directfiesta]

They're not killing civilians, they're killing insurgents... .

Saddam was also killing insurgents: Kurds were uprising and wanted to create a separate state.... They were fighting him... no fucking difference.

Most of which are not iraqi .

Another well repeated lie... How come nobody in the US lists the nationality of the killed ( yesterday 100 on the border )... Please stop repeating lies ...

The only " not Iraqi" in this fight are the US and they " coalition" partners ...

[FunForOne]

I love you stupid fucking hippies......

If Someone says "We won the Iraq war".

...You say "But we're still being attacked by insurgents on a daily basis, with ambushes, roadside bombs, carbombs and more." (which is true btw, i agree with you up to this point)

But then someone shows you a video, of those same insurgents you just acknowledged, leaving a building that weapons were fired from, heading towards another firefight with marines, we kill them, and you say "oh those poor innocent people"

Will you fucking DECIDE what you think???

Or your stance is "insurgents can attack american soldiers and we will not shoot or bomb them back" ???

You ididots make no sense.

Their stance is obvious. - Let the UN handle the problems in the middle east or elect kerry who promised to send more troops to Iraq.

One of the two would have been better for them.

[Libertine]

Well, isn'it the new reason:

Regime change ???

The US killed 30 people because they were " alleged" insurgents ...

I think if it would have been 40, wouldn't have changed a thing.
Or even a hundred .. .( they killed as many yesterday on the border )
How about 250 ?????

So Saddam gassed civilians that were uprising...

The US are killing civilians that are uprising ...

Difference please ....

The difference: Saddam wanted absolute power for himself, with no real rights for the citizens of the country whatsoever, the US wants Iraq to be a stable, democratic country, where people enjoy civil rights.

Saddam gassed civilians that were uprising (actually he also killed people in a bunch of tests) against a totalitarian regime which took away their every right.

The US are killing civilians that are uprising against the forming of an independent, free, democratic country, and want to replace that by either a new totalitarian regime or a religious tyranny.

That's a pretty big fucking difference.

[AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE]

With that kind of fire power I am surprised anyone in the world is willing to fight it, or maybe they are just stupid.

Poor souls.

[Goose]

omg how many ppl have that been?

[pornguy]

Well supposedly they were insurgents going to attack marines, but i must say that looks like the most disorganized group of soldiers i have ever seen, They look more like kids following the pied piper to me..

Have you ever seen soldiers running in such a disorganized group ?

To be fair though , the pilot knows alot more about the situaution than we do.

The only thing is that we think of soldiers like what we have. But even they move out of formation in an area like that. To move in formation would mean a fat juicy target.


Also Smokey. Can I get an ICQ number from you. I have a few quick questions.

[directfiesta]

The difference: Saddam wanted absolute power for himself, with no real rights for the citizens of the country whatsoever, the US wants Iraq to be a stable, democratic country, where people enjoy civil rights.

It's none of US business to decide what Iraqis will get or be. It is an occupation, not a democracy.

Saddam gassed civilians that were uprising (actually he also killed people in a bunch of tests) against a totalitarian regime which took away their every right.

Insurgents in other words ... Same as what the US is doing : stopping an uprising... Fallujah is the example.

The US are killing civilians that are uprising against the forming of an independent, free, democratic country, and want to replace that by either a new totalitarian regime or a religious tyranny.

That's a pretty big fucking difference.

If they want religious gov, it is their business. After all, don't you have one yourself ????
And again, it is none of the US business....


Just imagine a second:

Cops come blasting in your home, guns out. They tell you, after destroying your house, that they had reliable information that you were hiding terrorists. After staying a few days in your destroyed house, they come to the conclusion that yyou have no hidden terrorists... THEY LEAVE ....

Now the US are staying.... WHY ?

[Rich]

Killing defenseless poor people for profit is awesome.

[pornguy]

Just imagine a second:

Cops come blasting in your home, guns out. They tell you, after destroying your house, that they had reliable information that you were hiding terrorists. After staying a few days in your destroyed house, they come to the conclusion that yyou have no hidden terrorists... THEY LEAVE ....

Now the US are staying.... WHY ?


Patriot act has given them the power to do this, and they have done it. They are holding people in the US in jail, without charging them. The Bush admin is fucked up.

And I am agreeing with you. If Iraq were about helping the people, then why is Cuba still under Castros Control??? He is killing people, and jailing them just like Sadam.


It is about oil!

[Libertine]

It's none of US business to decide what Iraqis will get or be. It is an occupation, not a democracy.

Ok, let me start off by saying that anyone who can, has the right to overthrow oppressive regimes. After such an oppressive regime has been overthrown, a democracy will allow the people of the country to decide for themselves how they want to live.

Insurgents in other words ... Same as what the US is doing : stopping an uprising... Fallujah is the example.

I just pointed out the difference. Read it.

If they want religious gov, it is their business. After all, don't you have one yourself ????
And again, it is none of the US business....

If they want a religious government, a democracy will allow them to install one. However, stopping the country from becoming a religious tyranny through the force of a violent minority is a good thing.
You see, that gives those in the country who can't fight for themselves a voice in the development of the country.

Just imagine a second:

Cops come blasting in your home, guns out. They tell you, after destroying your house, that they had reliable information that you were hiding terrorists. After staying a few days in your destroyed house, they come to the conclusion that yyou have no hidden terrorists... THEY LEAVE ....

Now the US are staying.... WHY ?

The US are staying to ensure that the country gets a chance to rebuild, that no civil war breaks out and that violent groups do not take over the country by force. Do you consider those bad things?

Oh, by the way, your analogy in no way corresponds to the actual situation.

[directfiesta]

The US are staying to ensure that the country gets a chance to rebuild, that no civil war breaks out and that violent groups do not take over the country by force. Do you consider those bad things?

.

So, you stayed in Somalia??? in Liberia ???

No way, no oil there ...

How many "oppressive regimes" did the US install:

- Panama ( till he took all the money )
- Guatemala
-Nicaragua
-Chile
- El Salvador

to make it short, most of Central and South America...

So please, don't come saying you are a Don Quichotte defending the widow and hepless....

[WarChild]

So, you stayed in Somalia??? in Liberia ???

No way, no oil there ...

How many "oppressive regimes" did the US install:

- Panama ( till he took all the money )
- Guatemala
-Nicaragua
-Chile
- El Salvador

to make it short, most of Central and South America...

So please, don't come saying you are a Don Quichotte defending the widow and hepless....

Actually, what's going on is pacification of the Middle East. Years of liberal pandering and non action has gotten no where. Now it's going to be done through force, and many will die. Fortunetly, you don't get a say in it.

[Libertine]

So, you stayed in Somalia??? in Liberia ???

No way, no oil there ...

How many "oppressive regimes" did the US install:

- Panama ( till he took all the money )
- Guatemala
-Nicaragua
-Chile
- El Salvador

to make it short, most of Central and South America...

So please, don't come saying you are a Don Quichotte defending the widow and hepless....

I'm Dutch, you fucking idiot. And I disagree with quite a few things the US have done, including the way Iraq was invaded.

However, I do believe that oppressive regimes should be overthrown and that the oppressed have the right to freedom. Iraq shouldn't have been invaded by a small coalition based on wafer-thin suspicions of terrorism, it should have been invaded by the UN based on the absolute certainty of a cruel, dictatorial regime. Nevertheless, what happened will still bring more freedom to the Iraqi people, and it is better for the US to stay and help the country rebuild than to leave now and let the country plunge into civil war.

[directfiesta]

Actually, what's going on is pacification of the Middle East. Years of liberal pandering and non action has gotten no where. Now it's going to be done through force, and many will die. Fortunetly, you don't get a say in it.

At least, aside from " pacification" / " liberation" , this is a honest answers.

Basically:

We don't give a fuck, we don't care if people die, the end justifies the methods ...


I love democracy, mainly the exported one ... LOL ....


Oups, video encoded ... Back to work for a while

[Manga1]

The US are killing civilians that are uprising against the forming of an independent, free, democratic country, and want to replace that by either a new totalitarian regime or a religious tyranny.

That's a pretty big fucking difference.

[directfiesta]

I'm Dutch, you fucking idiot. .

I will consult CLEO next time...

Iraq shouldn't have been invaded by a small coalition based on wafer-thin suspicions of terrorism, it should have been invaded by the UN based on the absolute certainty of a cruel, dictatorial regime..

I wont insult you. no point...

But I wonder why the Americans/Britt didn;t go back to the UN to present a further resolution ...

But since I am an Idiot ....



But I will remember your point:

Sorry I was wrong, but while I am here, I will take over

[Libertine]

I will consult CLEO next time...




I wont insult you. no point...

But I wonder why the Americans/Britt didn;t go back to the UN to present a further resolution ...

But since I am an Idiot ....

But I will remember your point:

Sorry I was wrong, but while I am here, I will take over

You're an idiot for immediately assuming I'm American, and then attacking me, personally, on the actions of a number of American governments - something that would've been a complete non-argument even if I had been American.

Yes, the Americans and British should have gone back to the UN to present further resolutions. So? Does the fact that they didn't do that mean that the Iraqi people shouldn't get the chance now to build up a free, democratic country but instead be abandoned to the certainty of civil war?

[V_RocKs]

I love killing innocent people... just shoot me...

[S P A N N O W]

...thought they were heading to a little gun fight.

They brought guns to a bomb fight!