Any ImageReady Experts?

[Mutt]

No piece of software do I hate more than this bitch of a program.

But before I go spend some money on a replacement from Ulead I would really like to have this riddle solved. Here's the situation - you have a design in Photoshop, saved as a PSD, you go to ImageReady to slice it up and add mouseovers, animations etc - optimize and save the design as a sliced up HTML page. Fine. Now there's something you don't like or forgot so you open up the original PSD and make your changes, go back to ImageReady to reslice etc - when you go to the Optimized version the shit you changed is still fucking there and I have no clue how to get rid of it, it's like a file haunted by the past.

Anybody know what I'm talking about and how to stop this from happening?

Thanks

[Top Jimmy]

No piece of software do I hate more than this bitch of a program.

But before I go spend some money on a replacement from Ulead I would really like to have this riddle solved. Here's the situation - you have a design in Photoshop, saved as a PSD, you go to ImageReady to slice it up and add mouseovers, animations etc - optimize and save the design as a sliced up HTML page. Fine. Now there's something you don't like or forgot so you open up the original PSD and make your changes, go back to ImageReady to reslice etc - when you go to the Optimized version the shit you changed is still fucking there and I have no clue how to get rid of it, it's like a file haunted by the past.

Anybody know what I'm talking about and how to stop this from happening?

Thanks

Are you jumping to image ready? then jumping back and saving changes?

You should not be slicing in image ready. Create guides where you want slices.

Then jump to image ready. Do create slice from guides. use select tool to select some that need to be combined, and combine them. name yer slices (keywords for google) you can optimize each slice. Then save optimized as.

When you go back to ps it should load the new image ready settings. Just make sure you save ps file again.

When you open it and make changes in PS and rejump to image ready it will remeber your previous slices

Man that was a a ramble.

[DesignWise]

That happend to me several times, try to make sure that every imageready animation frames and button state frames are done the way you want them to, like when you edit something at the rollover state it'll not affect the original(other state and or frames), perhaps you edited a differend frame, or worst thing is your psd is corrupt.. hope this helps...good luck bro!

[Mutt]

um......you've completely confused me.

why should I have to use guides in Photoshop to map out my slices when ImageReady has a slice tool? I'm glad that ImageReady 'saves' the slices so when you open up a file again the old slices are there - but it's saving shit I got rid of in Photoshop and that's what i am tearing my hair out over. I'm talking about big changes. i really don't understand why you say don't slice in ImageReady.

thanks for the info though

[Mutt]

That happend to me several times, try to make sure that every imageready animation frames and button state frames are done the way you want them to, like when you edit something at the rollover state it'll not affect the original(other state and or frames), perhaps you edited a differend frame, or worst thing is your psd is corrupt.. hope this helps...good luck bro!

definitely not a corrupt file, it's obviously something I don't understand in how ImageReady works.

hmmmmmm.........ya know what .......... when I have a heavy PS file, most of my PS files are, a warning box comes up that says the file is over 40 MB and ImageReady may not work correctly. Maybe this is a behaviour that is caused by the big file size that IR can't handle. Which is ridiculous cuz 90% of the designs I do are over 40 MB.

oh well, Smart Saver by Ulead is better anyway - compresses GIFs and JPEGs much better at smaller file sizes. Time to buy it again.

[Top Jimmy]

um......you've completely confused me.

why should I have to use guides in Photoshop to map out my slices when ImageReady has a slice tool? I'm glad that ImageReady 'saves' the slices so when you open up a file again the old slices are there - but it's saving shit I got rid of in Photoshop and that's what i am tearing my hair out over. I'm talking about big changes. i really don't understand why you say don't slice in ImageReady.

thanks for the info though

Saves time in the long run, and they are more reliable than the slice tool.

My designs are all quite large but I have never gotten that error.

Are you using cs? I reverted back because there seemed to be some memory leaks in cs

[DesignWise]

definitely not a corrupt file, it's obviously something I don't understand in how ImageReady works.

hmmmmmm.........ya know what .......... when I have a heavy PS file, most of my PS files are, a warning box comes up that says the file is over 40 MB and ImageReady may not work correctly. Maybe this is a behaviour that is caused by the big file size that IR can't handle. Which is ridiculous cuz 90% of the designs I do are over 40 MB.

oh well, Smart Saver by Ulead is better anyway - compresses GIFs and JPEGs much better at smaller file sizes. Time to buy it again.

imageready sometimes do really sucks! but i have to admit i love using it when i do photoshop, hmmmn...guess i have to try that ulead one... i hate some limitations of imageready...

[BV]

i still slice in IR, i never learned how to do it in PS

when you switch from IR back to photoshop make sure your on the first frame in the animation pallet

i have done what your talking about before

you should be able to go back to ps and keep backing up to get back where you were unless you have closed the program since all this happened

[Mutt]

sonofabitch! this has got to be a bug in ImageReady. the file has been changed in Photoshop, saved, renamed, and ImageReady won't fucking update the changes. it's not just the animated and mouseover slices - it's every change i made including some layer styles and cleaning up some stray pixels i never saw when i originally finished this project.

fuck it, i have to re-create 5 pages, not from scratch, i'd kill myself if i had to do that but with the mouseovers and the animation it's gonna be a bitch of a job.

well thanks for the input anyway.

grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.......

[Mutt]

imageready sometimes do really sucks! but i have to admit i love using it when i do photoshop, hmmmn...guess i have to try that ulead one... i hate some limitations of imageready...

ImageReady sucks, it's not just this problem i'm having. There's also a bug in it, for me anyways, when you need to resize a slice by one pixel it won't, i drag the slice or nudge it with the arrow keys and moves two pixels - i found out a way to stop it but it's annoying.

Ulead's product is called Smart Saver Pro and it's compression/optimization performance is far better than any of the Adobe products.

[Praguer]

ImageReady sucks, it's not just this problem i'm having. There's also a bug in it, for me anyways, when you need to resize a slice by one pixel it won't, i drag the slice or nudge it with the arrow keys and moves two pixels - i found out a way to stop it but it's annoying.

Ulead's product is called Smart Saver Pro and it's compression/optimization performance is far better than any of the Adobe products.

Once you get the hang of it, Image Ready is an awsome program. But I agree with you, the logic and structure of it is strange. It took me quite a while to get familiar with it and somehow be able to use it properly.

Here is some good resource for tutorials on ImageReady, PS and others. The subscription is only $25.00 a month but the value of the content is worth 10 times more. Give it a try.

http://www.lynda.com

[GFX Wiz]

Ulead GIF Animator 3.0 - still the best and it's so old you can grab it off Amazon.com for under $10. I would never use anything else for animations