math puzzle crypto experts

[Tanker]

$50 paypal to anyone that can un encrypt this message for me


anyone here know how to solve alpha-numeric wheel puzzles ?


this is the code we used in math club during undergrad...alpha-numeric wheel ("a" through "o", space, "p" through "z", "." then 0-9, and finally ","); same function we always used; code-key from this letter...I hope this is ringing a bell


xkspwi.qq6dx8a7f,,eu46d5w882e6a3w2h
nfvznlxpdjs.kiekxv0vgkmy-wriwrxu0oj
u-0qkovfh.kupt--uwehpx2x3qoqrnus1ps
u7,x7978g7r2286u57035b8vuwwsr7crgif
wqvpuzmnqy5p5yxpmtyonx1wknuapn-vi-y
tuivtx0vqy4nypxhphrwloyiyr0lqlxt1zq
xgs-v7tuoipttqo5wqtxpsyjrtc-owqfkqw
ypnmypwqofspoiynz5

The message (& code) use letters A-Z, numbers 0-9, commas, periods, and spaces (shown in encrypted form as dashes ). I left out nulls and reverses since you may be a little rusty.


any of you good at solving these kind of puzzles ?

50$ paypal if you email me the correct answer do not post it here

[email protected]

[Tanker]

I wonder if anyone can

[reynold]

Originally posted by Tanker
$50 paypal to anyone that can un encrypt this message for me


anyone here know how to solve alpha-numeric wheel puzzles ?


this is the code we used in math club during undergrad...alpha-numeric wheel ("a" through "o", space, "p" through "z", "." then 0-9, and finally ","); same function we always used; code-key from this letter...I hope this is ringing a bell


xkspwi.qq6dx8a7f,,eu46d5w882e6a3w2h
nfvznlxpdjs.kiekxv0vgkmy-wriwrxu0oj
u-0qkovfh.kupt--uwehpx2x3qoqrnus1ps
u7,x7978g7r2286u57035b8vuwwsr7crgif
wqvpuzmnqy5p5yxpmtyonx1wknuapn-vi-y
tuivtx0vqy4nypxhphrwloyiyr0lqlxt1zq
xgs-v7tuoipttqo5wqtxpsyjrtc-owqfkqw
ypnmypwqofspoiynz5

The message (& code) use letters A-Z, numbers 0-9, commas, periods, and spaces (shown in encrypted form as dashes ). I left out nulls and reverses since you may be a little rusty.


any of you good at solving these kind of puzzles ?

50$ paypal if you email me the correct answer do not post it here

[email protected]

where did you get it from? looks really mysterious to me.

[cypocrypt]

if anyone can figure that one out is prob wiredguy

he deciphered the google job offer a while ago, so it wouldnt surprise me if he does this one as well....

[Tanker]

I got it from a friend its a game we play hit me up on ICQ if you think you can solve it 3427575

[Tanker]

no other cryptology freaks

[WiredGuy]

I think you're missing something here Tanker. You provided the encrypted text, but no indication of the decryption algorithm or the decrypted text. You need one of the two to crack this. You said:

alpha-numeric wheel ("a" through "o", space, "p" through "z", "." then 0-9, and finally ","); same function we always used; code-key from this letter

So a..o [SPACE] p..z is the character set in addition to [0-9] and period and comma. But what do they map to? You need a hash table or some way of knowing how to decrypt this to figure out anything? Was there a picture or something else you got included because there's something missing here.

WG

[DX]

Decrypted message:

"You have too much free time on your hands : )"

[Tanker]

WG hit me up

[Tanker]

http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache...f-db82be17acc4

that is the link to the geocache if you can figure it out Ill go hunt it down....

and split the 100$ prize hidden within


Tanker

[Tanker]

anyone else geocache ? its a fun game and great way to get into the outdoors

[BradM]

Yeah I used to geocache with my dad

[Tanker]

this one is a tough one

[colpanic]

I think it's just talking about a two wheel.

So, imagine two wheels with the same character set... and when you reach a letter on the first, it maps to the one on the second.

I'm feeling pretty lazy right now, but this would be easy to crack programatically.

[Myst]

whats an alpha numeric wheel?

[WiredGuy]

Originally posted by colpanic
I think it's just talking about a two wheel.

So, imagine two wheels with the same character set... and when you reach a letter on the first, it maps to the one on the second.

I'm feeling pretty lazy right now, but this would be easy to crack programatically.

That's what I thought, this is basically a hash map/table but there's 39 characters in total, so unless something maps to itself, there's one character missing here.

WG

[colpanic]

Ever watch a Christmas Story?

Remember the decoder ring?

Thats it.

[Tanker]

but the question is can you break the code I have looked and looked at it I dont get it

[Tanker]

I understand the decoder ring but you have to use the story they created to figure out what the decoder ring is

[MrIzzz]

i can't believe you N00bs havent figured this one out yet



oh its so damn easy

[colpanic]

Working on it. I'm bored now anyway ;)

[colpanic]

Woah.. it says


"Drink, more ovaltine"

(kidding, still working on it).

[Tanker]

I am glad a few of you understand how to decrypt it

[erehwon]

Its where the Soviet nuclear suitcases are being stashed!

[Tanker]

Originally posted by erehwon
Its where the Soviet nuclear suitcases are being stashed!

hahahahh no its just a geocache game

[Tanker]

Originally posted by Myst
whats an alpha numeric wheel?

I have a idea of what it is but you have to figure out from the story what is what and I cant

[colpanic]

There are -'s in the text, and those aren't on the wheel.... I'm just taking them out.

[NetRodent]

It does not appear to be simple character rotation using the obvious key. I'm guessing the key has something to do with certain "discrepancies" in the message.

The wheel might also rotate with each character. Might try that next.

[NetRodent]

Originally posted by colpanic
There are -'s in the text, and those aren't on the wheel.... I'm just taking them out.

Dashes are encoded spaces.

[WarChild]

Originally posted by colpanic
There are -'s in the text, and those aren't on the wheel.... I'm just taking them out.

I think those represent [SPACE]

[xclusive]

It says "I Sale Short Icq" damn russian hackers always being mysterious...

[Tanker]

you guys are doing better then me

[colpanic]

Originally posted by WarChild
I think those represent [SPACE]

There is a space character in the key already.

[colpanic]

Originally posted by colpanic
There is a space character in the key already.

Shit.. you are right Sorry. Im a no reading bastard.

[erehwon]

Ok, I have some of the usual suspects in Chicago working on it now, if there was more $$$ at stake, I'd nudge a friend that formerly worked in and around the 20755 zipcode.

[Jace]

Originally posted by erehwon
I'd nudge a friend that formerly worked in and around the 20755 zipcode.

damn, i had to even think about that one and look it up

puzzles just aren't my thing that is for sure

[colpanic]

Originally posted by NetRodent
It does not appear to be simple character rotation using the obvious key. I'm guessing the key has something to do with certain "discrepancies" in the message.

The wheel might also rotate with each character. Might try that next.

You are right. It's not a simple rotation.. I wrote a program to try all the combinations & nothing english looking.

Ok, I'm going home.. this is fun, but not *that* fun ;) Good luck. Someone post the solution when you get it!

[Napolean]

Originally posted by colpanic
You are right. It's not a simple rotation.. I wrote a program to try all the combinations & nothing english looking.

Ok, I'm going home.. this is fun, but not *that* fun ;) Good luck. Someone post the solution when you get it!

hahaha, i just got done doing the exact same thing

[Tanker]

I tell you all what the prize in the cache is $100 bucks I will give it all to the person that helps me solve this one if you figure it out and I can get to the cache I will give you the whole hundred dollars its not much but its a game that I play it will involve me hiking about 10 miles into the brush to find it I dont mind I do it for the fun of the hunt

Me and Ellisa are ready to go find it but we have to solve the riddle to know where to look part of the answer will be a longitude and latitude coordinate I believe


like the one at the top of the page on the site I linked


Help me hunt it down and if you are in toronto or upstate NY your more then welcome to come along for the hike although most webmasters are not into that much excercise

[extreme]

Originally posted by Napolean
hahaha, i just got done doing the exact same thing

Yeah me too ;)

Anyway for those having trouble with the dashes. Reread the initial message. The dashes should be replaced with space in the encrypted message.

Do we know if it's in english? Bruteforce is gonna be hell otherwise...

[Tanker]

yes it is in english

[Tanker]

I would expect it to be in english

[Tanker]

How about any of you late nighters have you any idea for $100 dollars

[skyechase]

Where is Daniel Jackson when you need him

[European Lee]

Why dont you just use your ARS decoder ring?

Regards,

Lee

[Tanker]

Lee I wish it was that easy

[Tanker]

this one is tough but I know there is a smart GFYer that can unencrypt it I only wonder who it is that will WG is working on it too its very tricky

[WiredGuy]

Originally posted by Tanker
this one is tough but I know there is a smart GFYer that can unencrypt it I only wonder who it is that will WG is working on it too its very tricky

The biggest problem is that something like this needs to be coded on a computer program because it's not using a standard 26 character alphabet. Instead, you have 39 characters to consider and then you need to somehow figure out how to rotate/shift the characters to create the new "language" so to speak. I've already tried a caesar decryption and vignere (2 simple key based decryptions) plus most of the standard shifts (1..26) but I'm not really willing to program a script to go through every single combination that's possible for a non-standard alphabet like we have here. I'll see what my C&O friend can come up with.

WG

[Tanker]

its definetly tough as hell its a major math problem

[Tanker]

Originally posted by WiredGuy
The biggest problem is that something like this needs to be coded on a computer program because it's not using a standard 26 character alphabet. Instead, you have 39 characters to consider and then you need to somehow figure out how to rotate/shift the characters to create the new "language" so to speak. I've already tried a caesar decryption and vignere (2 simple key based decryptions) plus most of the standard shifts (1..26) but I'm not really willing to program a script to go through every single combination that's possible for a non-standard alphabet like we have here. I'll see what my C&O friend can come up with.

WG

so we need some programmers that can decipher the code then ?