Age verification

[celandina]

Anybody has any experience with it? And how did it affect your revenue? 1/2 of USA has this in place, so does UK and EU is heading there!

Are there OTHER options to collect money, to avoid this crap? Crypto does not work. I have seen something here a while ago about mobile payment, but cannot find it.

[TheLegacy]

A recent client of mine has a 2 stage AVS system for his site - that being said with proper SEO and marketing his organic traffic and regular traffic has doubled in about 3 months - so for all those who think it's a death nail - I would have to disagree as you can still increase sales/traffic even with AVS on the site

[blackmonsters]

Don't waste time trying to get around AVS; because it will never go away. Surfers will just get used to it.
People are not going to give up on seeing porn because they don't want to do a selfie.
AVS is just getting rid of freeloaders and underage bandwidth wasters.

You can use go.cam for free and their network is big enough that many will already be verified when they
reach your site. The surfer will use a go.cam passkey to enter your site immediately.
The pass key is stored on their PC, laptop, and cellphone.

Fighting the new reality is a total waste of energy.
Use your energy to set up your web site with go.cam.

[celandina]

A recent client of mine has a 2 stage AVS system for his site - that being said with proper SEO and marketing his organic traffic and regular traffic has doubled in about 3 months - so for all those who think it's a death nail - I would have to disagree as you can still increase sales/traffic even with AVS on the site

Thanks for the advice and info. SEO is way to expensive for a small site like ours, but we will have to install it as it is a condition of our payment processor. We will see in September how bad it affected us.

[celandina]

Don't waste time trying to get around AVS; because it will never go away. Surfers will just get used to it.
People are not going to give up on seeing porn because they don't want to do a selfie.
AVS is just getting rid of freeloaders and underage bandwidth wasters.

You can use go.cam for free and their network is big enough that many will already be verified when they
reach your site. The surfer will use a go.cam passkey to enter your site immediately.
The pass key is stored on their PC, laptop, and cellphone.

Fighting the new reality is a total waste of energy.
Use your energy to set up your web site with go.cam.

thanks for your analysis. I will let you know once implemented what it did to the business.

[DemonitizedPorn]

Fighting the new reality is a total waste of energy.
Use your energy to set up your web site with go.cam.

1. The 'New Reality' is actually the 'Old Reality.' That means when the public is told that the only porn they're allowed to see is a woman in a some sort of modern americanized burka... They'll posting pictures of them and bragging how noble they are for complying.

2. AVS isn't about protecting children.
It's about :

A.) Training their AIs on facial recognition. So soon you won't be able to go through an airport without immigration knowing what sites you jerk off to.

B.) It's going to give pedophiles greater access to children. The same people who are in control of the technology are the same predators who are raping children.

[k.mercer]

I wouldn't be surprised if more people just end up using X instead. I can see a lot of people getting tired of age verification, especially if it means uploading a selfie or ID everytime.

[k.mercer]

I wouldn't be surprised if more people just end up using X instead. I can see a lot of people getting tired of age verification, especially if it means uploading a selfie or ID everytime.

[TGPlace]

Age verification is becoming unavoidable (especially with UK/EU regulations tightening). We implemented it recently and yes, there was a small initial dip, but traffic and revenue recovered quickly. Surfers get used to it fast. No perfect way around it if you want to stay compliant and accept mainstream payments. Crypto helps a bit but doesn't solve everything.

[TGPlace]

Age verification is becoming unavoidable (especially with UK/EU regulations tightening).
We implemented it recently and yes, there was a small initial dip, but traffic and revenue recovered quickly.
Surfers get used to it fast. No perfect way around it if you want to stay compliant and accept mainstream payments.
Crypto helps a bit but doesn't solve everything.

[cordoba]

For affiliates, the easiest way, if possible, is to make your site reasonably SFW. Even in the UK they are not forcing, for example, online sex toy stores to have age verification. Sponsors can help with this by having SFW tours and SFW promotional material, yet still few do so.

[celandina]

For affiliates, the easiest way, if possible, is to make your site reasonably SFW. Even in the UK they are not forcing, for example, online sex toy stores to have age verification. Sponsors can help with this by having SFW tours and SFW promotional material, yet still few do so.

if you are running a porn site, the ONLY SFW content is the fuckers sitting at the end, all “ happy go lucky” telling to the camera how great was shoving the huge cucumber up her/his ass

[blackmonsters]

1. The 'New Reality' is actually the 'Old Reality.' That means when the public is told that the only porn they're allowed to see is a woman in a some sort of modern americanized burka... They'll posting pictures of them and bragging how noble they are for complying.

2. AVS isn't about protecting children.
It's about :

A.) Training their AIs on facial recognition. So soon you won't be able to go through an airport without immigration knowing what sites you jerk off to.

B.) It's going to give pedophiles greater access to children. The same people who are in control of the technology are the same predators who are raping children.

Stop smoking whatever it is.

[DemonitizedPorn]

Stop smoking whatever it is.

1. In 2017 Q Anon said there was a cabal of wealthy pedophiles. Well, here we are nearly 10 years later and guess what one of the hot issues is? ... Was it coincidence or did someone know something? ... (I don't know)

2. In 2015 Bill Gates gave a big 'talk' about the inevitability of a global pandemic. Well, a few years later and most of the world was under house arrest. ... Was it coincidence or did he plan it? ... (I don't know)

Now you want me to believe that the people who:
(-a.) Rape children
(-b.) Take away our freedoms (privileges)
(-c.) Destroy livelihoods to suppress free speech

That these exact same people are genuinely worried about the well-being of children? (Maybe you should
Stop smoking whatever it is?)

If I'm wrong then I'm wrong. It won't be the 1st time and it won't be the last.
But if I'm right then all of you guys who comply are just imbeciles. You'll destroy your businesses and possibly help wealthy pedophiles rape children.

If you can't(or won't) see the man behind the curtain then at least look both ways before you cross the street to join the other side.

[Umami]

Has anyone implemented anything on their cam sites?

[celandina]

I wouldn't be surprised if more people just end up using X instead. I can see a lot of people getting tired of age verification, especially if it means uploading a selfie or ID everytime.

how the fuck do you collect money on X ? Porn is a business!

[Spicy Wraith]

Thanks for the advice and info. SEO is way to expensive for a small site like ours, but we will have to install it as it is a condition of our payment processor. We will see in September how bad it affected us.

SEO is nearly free now. Got an Anthropic account? Have claude code simply do the SEO for you. It's fast and way better than anyone here, that's for damn sure...

NOBODY needs an SEO "specialist" anymore

[celandina]

SEO is nearly free now. Got an Anthropic account? Have claude code simply do the SEO for you. It's fast and way better than anyone here, that's for damn sure...

NOBODY needs an SEO "specialist" anymore

Yes, Philanthropic code notwithstanding Claudia discoded me and will not fuck me any more because I was not simple enough… What part of “ I am not a geek” you did not get ??

[Spicy Wraith]

Yes, Philanthropic code notwithstanding Claudia discoded me and will not fuck me any more because I was not simple enough… What part of “ I am not a geek” you did not get ??

Are you sure you are working in the correct field then? The internet and websites is very much a geek thing to be in.

Regardless, it does not take a geek to type into a text field: Please audit my website for best SEO practices and tell me what to improve. That's at the very basic level. If you dont want to give claude access to your server, perfectly understandable, then download your site and have claude fix it on your local machine, then you have it sandboxed and can check that everything is safe before uploading.

It doesn't take a geek mentality, it just takes a tiny bit of effort.

It will be just fine.

[celandina]

I make content, movies in fact. Real ones and I sell them from my VOD platform. So I am in the right business. This business is all about content. All the rest is a support geeky stuff for the content producers. I have geeks ( and it is a term of indearment to me) who do the geeky stuff. But they are not cheap, so I come here for advice, not to learn geeky stuff. If I need my tooth fixed I go to the dentist and no , I do not learn how to be a dentist….ditto if my car needs fixing. Year ago to the very day I have started to learn GA, well I did not get very far. And my geeks were as perplexed as I. So even geeks somtime get “stupmed”.

[k.mercer]

how the fuck do you collect money on X ? Porn is a business!

I meant the viewers....

[2MuchMark]

Has anyone implemented anything on their cam sites?

Hi Unami,

Yes we done it for a few customers. We mostly work with Yoti, but you can use any AVS service you want., but it is best to check with the payment processor you are using, and get their requirements first.

If you need help with integration feel free to reach out at https://2much.net/contact.php

[2MuchMark]

SEO is nearly free now. Got an Anthropic account? Have claude code simply do the SEO for you. It's fast and way better than anyone here, that's for damn sure...

NOBODY needs an SEO "specialist" anymore

Absolute statements like "NOBODY needs an SEO specialist anymore" are usually a sign someone is oversimplifying a complex field.

[Huggles]

Wait... GFY is a site about people making money in adult?

[celandina]

Don't waste time trying to get around AVS; because it will never go away. Surfers will just get used to it.
People are not going to give up on seeing porn because they don't want to do a selfie.
AVS is just getting rid of freeloaders and underage bandwidth wasters.

You can use go.cam for free and their network is big enough that many will already be verified when they
reach your site. The surfer will use a go.cam passkey to enter your site immediately.
The pass key is stored on their PC, laptop, and cellphone.

Fighting the new reality is a total waste of energy.
Use your energy to set up your web site with go.cam.

Thanks, looked at go.cam it appears European. We use US payment procesing they require geo location exlusions as some US states have it and some do not.

[fuzebox]

Thanks, looked at go.cam it appears European. We use US payment procesing they require geo location exlusions as some US states have it and some do not.

You can use go.cam in the US.

[celandina]

Don't waste time trying to get around AVS; because it will never go away. Surfers will just get used to it.
People are not going to give up on seeing porn because they don't want to do a selfie.
AVS is just getting rid of freeloaders and underage bandwidth wasters.

You can use go.cam for free and their network is big enough that many will already be verified when they
reach your site. The surfer will use a go.cam passkey to enter your site immediately.
The pass key is stored on their PC, laptop, and cellphone.

Fighting the new reality is a total waste of energy.
Use your energy to set up your web site with go.cam.

Thanks, looked at go.cam it appears European. We use US payment procesing they require geo location exlusions as some US states have it and some do not.

[celandina]

Age verification is becoming unavoidable (especially with UK/EU regulations tightening). We implemented it recently and yes, there was a small initial dip, but traffic and revenue recovered quickly. Surfers get used to it fast. No perfect way around it if you want to stay compliant and accept mainstream payments. Crypto helps a bit but doesn't solve everything.

Which one are you using ??? Thanks

[NatalieK]

why try avoid this...

get avs!

check out ageverification.org...

we've used this on my filthy pages and blog posts, not clean posts, so some are seen, some are not, great on blogs...

NatalieKash.com

and it's free to use x

[Peace]

Age verification is becoming part of the normal cost of running adult, not an optional feature. The practical question is how to keep conversion loss low while staying compliant. Contact us if you want to compare what works on real adult sites.

[2MuchMark]

Wait... GFY is a site about people making money in adult?

Fathom the concept!

[Spicy Wraith]

I make content, movies in fact. Real ones and I sell them from my VOD platform. So I am in the right business. This business is all about content. All the rest is a support geeky stuff for the content producers. I have geeks ( and it is a term of indearment to me) who do the geeky stuff. But they are not cheap, so I come here for advice, not to learn geeky stuff. If I need my tooth fixed I go to the dentist and no , I do not learn how to be a dentist….ditto if my car needs fixing. Year ago to the very day I have started to learn GA, well I did not get very far. And my geeks were as perplexed as I. So even geeks somtime get “stupmed”.

Tell Stumpy to type into a text field:
Please audit my website for best SEO practices and tell me what to improve.

You spend far more time pushing back on this than it takes to simply try it and see for yourself how easy it is.

[DemonitizedPorn]

Age verification is becoming part of the normal cost of running adult, not an optional feature.

I was going to say 'BULLSHIT' but then I realized that you're an expert. So I decided to remain silent.

[Freedom6995]

Thanks, looked at go.cam it appears European. We use US payment procesing they require geo location exlusions as some US states have it and some do not.

Which states are those?

[celandina]

Which states are those?

check freespeechcoalition they have the list

[Peace]

The hard part is doing AV without killing trust and conversions.

Users worry about privacy, processors worry about compliance, and site owners worry about drop-off. The best solution probably needs AV + privacy messaging + payment compliance together.

[celandina]

What do you mean “privacy messaging” ??

[3xmedia]

that idiot just mass spams all threads with AI slop. he has absolutely no idea what those texts mean.

[XMerchant]

Which states are those?

From https://www.ageverification.org/faq

What countries have laws that require age verification for websites not intended for minors?

Australia, France, Germany, Ireland, Italy, UK and US (in the following states: Alabama, Arizona, Arkansas, Florida, Georgia, Idaho, Indiana, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Mississippi, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, North Carolina, North Dakota, Ohio, Oklahoma, South Carolina, South Dakota, Tennessee (must re-verify hourly), Texas, Utah, Virginia, Wyoming).

[pumpumpum]

I was going to say 'BULLSHIT' but then I realized that you're an expert. So I decided to remain silent.

what do you mean with "Bullshit"?

[celandina]

Launched Age Verification past Wednesday. Will let you know in a few weeks what damage it caused .