So how much do you program reps make?

[Libertine]

The more I think about it, the more it seems like the perfect job... just sitting around a bit boardwhori... ehh, promoting your program on the boards, chatting with affiliates on icq, giving people tips to convert more.
So does it pay well? Or are you people only making slightly more than a typical intern at a newspaper, and doing the work mainly to build up a network and knowledge of the biz?

[Alex From San Diego]

Good Question.

Currently we are in the process of becoming a public traded company and should have our symbol by November of this year.

Here is what we offer our reps.

Sales Rep Potential Earnings with JSA

[ElvisManson]

well "slightly" more than that...but I am just in this industry for the free porn.

[Libertine]

Originally posted by Alex From San Diego
Good Question.

Currently we are in the process of becoming a public traded company and should have our symbol by November of this year.

Here is what we offer our reps.

Sales Rep Potential Earnings with JSA

That's a bit vague... "per join", does that mean per join brought in by webmasters brought in by the sales rep in question, per join programwide, per webmaster join brought by the sales rep ( on that last one)?

[Libertine]

Originally posted by ElvisManson


well "slightly" more than that...but I am just in this industry for the free porn.

Everybody is in the industry for the free porn. It was a well-kept secret, until you had to go and post it. Now you ruined it for all of us

[ElvisManson]

Originally posted by punkworld
Everybody is in the industry for the free porn. It was a well-kept secret, until you had to go and post it. Now you ruined it for all of us

i am pretty new. Sorry.

[VeriSexy]

Originally posted by punkworld
That's a bit vague... "per join", does that mean per join brought in by webmasters brought in by the sales rep in question, per join programwide, per webmaster join brought by the sales rep ( on that last one)?

I think sales rep gets $1.75 for each join that the webmasters make.

[shermo]

There's a bit of a jump financially from fast food to marketing rep...But not much. At least those fuckers get insurance!

[Alex From San Diego]

Originally posted by punkworld
That's a bit vague... "per join", does that mean per join brought in by webmasters brought in by the sales rep in question, per join programwide, per webmaster join brought by the sales rep ( on that last one)?

If you have 20 accounts under you and each of those accounts send 10 joins per day, you would be entitled to 200 joins per day at $1.75 each.

[stocktrader23]

Originally posted by Alex From San Diego
Good Question.

Currently we are in the process of becoming a public traded company and should have our symbol by November of this year.

Here is what we offer our reps.

Sales Rep Potential Earnings with JSA

Wow.

[ScottMN]

I do ok, but compared to a lot of our webmasters, i'm on the wrong end of the business

[detoxed]

Originally posted by Alex From San Diego
If you have 20 accounts under you and each of those accounts send 10 joins per day, you would be entitled to 200 joins per day at $1.75 each.

Thats still vague. Does accounts under you mean signup under a ref code, or accounts that you provide support for?

[Alex From San Diego]

Originally posted by detoxed
Thats still vague. Does accounts under you mean signup under a ref code, or accounts that you provide support for?

Sorry it is vagued to you but I guess you need to understand what a sales rep is as well as their duties and responsibilities.

It is a little more than just a ref code.

[detoxed]

Originally posted by Alex From San Diego
Sorry it is vagued to you but I guess you need to understand what a sales rep is as well as their duties and responsibilities.

It is a little more than just a ref code.

LOL its not vague just to me, you never specified. I have been a sales rep and know exactly what it means, but every company uses a different definition. I know several that only count what comes in under the ref code, and dont give a shit about support thats provided.

[Libertine]

Originally posted by Alex From San Diego
If you have 20 accounts under you and each of those accounts send 10 joins per day, you would be entitled to 200 joins per day at $1.75 each.

So, do you guys have the normal 10% webmaster referral bonus and something lik $35-40 payout per join?

If so, promoting your program to other webmasters as a normal webmaster instead of as a sales rep would actually be more profitable.

And if you don't offer the 10% for normal webmaster referrals, a sales rep would probably still be doing better by promoting another program that does have that.

Also, is their no compensation whatsoever for sales reps to spend time helping out affiliates, establishing the program's reputation, etc?
You know, the things that establish your program so that when webmasters go looking for new sponsors, they simply type in the name of your program?

[Sly_RJ]

If you know how to webmaster, being a sales rep is a waste of your time in most cases.

[Morphius]

If you looking for sales job, hit me up.

[Fletch XXX]

"Get 10 people to make 10 sales a day and you can be rich like me too!"

you know how hard it would be to get newbies (10 of them) to actually make 2 sales let alone 10 a day.

[okny]

Some make more then others, the more you know the more you make.

[Sly_RJ]

Originally posted by Alex From San Diego
Good Question.

Currently we are in the process of becoming a public traded company and should have our symbol by November of this year.

Here is what we offer our reps.

Sales Rep Potential Earnings with JSA

You don't offer any kind of base salary?

How do you compensate your affiliate reps for time and energy they spend on affiliates that aren't in their downline?

Do you expect your affiliate reps to create content packs and other tools to help your affiliates? If so, how do you compensate for other affiliate reps using tools that said affiliate rep created for their own downline?

[Sly_RJ]

Originally posted by Fletch XXX
"Get 10 people to make 10 sales a day and you can be rich like me too!"

you know how hard it would be to get newbies (10 of them) to actually make 2 sales let alone 10 a day.

And just for the record, getting affiliates to pull consistent sales is very difficult unless you know big fish. However, big fish require big hooks...

[hyper]

Originally posted by Sly_RJ
If you know how to webmaster, being a sales rep is a waste of your time in most cases.

what he said

however its more beneficial to push a ref code if your a board whore and take the 10% .. 2.50 for every $25.00 signup beats $1.75

[xxxdesign-net]

Originally posted by Fletch XXX
"Get 10 people to make 10 sales a day and you can be rich like me too!"

you know how hard it would be to get newbies (10 of them) to actually make 2 sales let alone 10 a day.

lol.. there's is thousands of sale reps on this board flying a sponsor in their sig.. if the overall average of their monthly earnings from their sig is above $50 I,ll be suprised.. To have 100 sales under you / day .. you better have some nice friends to hit up on ICQ..

[Theo]

congratulations Alex, I didnt know your company goes public. Awesome

[Libertine]

Originally posted by Sly_RJ
If you know how to webmaster, being a sales rep is a waste of your time in most cases.

As long as industry-wide exclusivity isn't part of the deal (i.e. you are allowed to do online work in non-competing fields), being a sales rep could be a nice addition to normal webmaster work.
Webmaster work can get rather boring every once in a while, and human contact (even if it is through boards/icq) can really lighten that up. If you can get that and get paid for it, too, that's pretty nice

Originally posted by Sly_RJ
You don't offer any kind of base salary?

How do you compensate your affiliate reps for time and energy they spend on affiliates that aren't in their downline?

Do you expect your affiliate reps to create content packs and other tools to help your affiliates? If so, how do you compensate for other affiliate reps using tools that said affiliate rep created for their own downline?

You said what I just tried to say in a way more polite way than I ever could

[Dirty F]

Originally posted by Fletch XXX
"Get 10 people to make 10 sales a day and you can be rich like me too!"

you know how hard it would be to get newbies (10 of them) to actually make 2 sales let alone 10 a day.

Haha exactly what i thought. All the sales reps who have 10 persons doing 10 joins a day under them raise your hand!

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[Alex From San Diego]

Originally posted by Sly_RJ
You don't offer any kind of base salary?

How do you compensate your affiliate reps for time and energy they spend on affiliates that aren't in their downline?

Do you expect your affiliate reps to create content packs and other tools to help your affiliates? If so, how do you compensate for other affiliate reps using tools that said affiliate rep created for their own downline?

I'm not about to explain our compensation plan to include salaries and how our system works. Someone asked a question of how much do program reps make. I posted a basic sheet showing what a rep can make with us. Salary is on a case by case basis.

[xxxdesign-net]

Originally posted by Sly_RJ
You don't offer any kind of base salary?

How do you compensate your affiliate reps for time and energy they spend on affiliates that aren't in their downline?

Do you expect your affiliate reps to create content packs and other tools to help your affiliates? If so, how do you compensate for other affiliate reps using tools that said affiliate rep created for their own downline?

exactly.. whats the difference between their rep.. and a webmaster referring other webmasters earning 10%... I can give tips too.. lol

[Fletch XXX]

Originally posted by xxxdesign-net
exactly.. whats the difference between their rep.. and a webmaster referring other webmasters earning 10%... I can give tips too.. lol

which was the basis for this goofy thread

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...adid=346344&s=

[Alex From San Diego]

Originally posted by xxxdesign-net
exactly.. whats the difference between their rep.. and a webmaster referring other webmasters earning 10%... I can give tips too.. lol

Big difference.....

[Alex From San Diego]

Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
congratulations Alex, I didnt know your company goes public. Awesome

Thanks Soul....

It is a long and tedious task.

[Sly_RJ]

Originally posted by punkworld
As long as industry-wide exclusivity isn't part of the deal (i.e. you are allowed to do online work in non-competing fields), being a sales rep could be a nice addition to normal webmaster work.
Webmaster work can get rather boring every once in a while, and human contact (even if it is through boards/icq) can really lighten that up. If you can get that and get paid for it, too, that's pretty nice

It's a nice addition but it's also a royal pain in the ass. Working with people isn't a problem, it's the hours that create problems, especially if you're a webmaster. You're online all the time so people are asking you questions all the time, asking for help all the time, bothering you all the time. Whenever you want to work on your own projects, you get distracted because somebody needs help with links or has questions.

If you're only selling something (content, scripts, hosting, etc), doing sales is great and not much of a bother at all. But when you're responsible for helping people send traffic, you tend to develop 1 too many headaches. But that's just me, you could be completely different.

Most of the full time sales reps I know are only available during business hours. They aren't webmasters. I think that setup is much better.

[stocktrader23]

Originally posted by Battuss
Haha exactly what i thought. All the sales reps who have 10 persons doing 10 joins a day under them raise your hand!

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A sales rep isn't the same as 10% referrals. You can pick which sales rep you are associated with on some programs no matter who referred you. I would imagine they pay their reps a % on all webmasters they represent regardless of who referred them.

By the way, I've had several people do 10 joins per day in my downline over the years when I was being like a 3rd party sales rep. 90% of those people were not webmasters before I showed them how to make money.

[xxxdesign-net]

Originally posted by Alex From San Diego
Big difference.....

If I have 100 sales/day under me using a random program:
100 sales x 365days x $25 x 3 month (average stay) x10% ref. = $273,750 .. ..

you offer $74,825.00 for your reps...

[stocktrader23]

Originally posted by xxxdesign-net
If I have 100 sales/day under me using a random program:
100 sales x 365days x $25 x 3 month (average stay) x10% ref. = $273,750 .. ..

you offer $74,825.00 for your reps...

A sales rep doesn't refer every person they represent.

[Sly_RJ]

Originally posted by xxxdesign-net
exactly.. whats the difference between their rep.. and a webmaster referring other webmasters earning 10%... I can give tips too.. lol

There's a big difference. I don't think most of you webmasters realize that affiliate reps are responsible for much more than sitting on a board and answering ICQs all day. There's a lot of little work that must be done, work that takes a fair amount of time.

[xxxdesign-net]

Originally posted by stocktrader23
I would imagine they pay their reps a % on all webmasters they represent regardless of who referred them.

Well.. thats what I and others want to know

[Steve]

Originally posted by Fletch XXX
"Get 10 people to make 10 sales a day and you can be rich like me too!"

you know how hard it would be to get newbies (10 of them) to actually make 2 sales let alone 10 a day.

If newbies can buy a decent template from a professional designer, crop + insert content, and manage to post 1 gallery/day without being blacklisted, I would bet they do more than 10 joins/day with his program.

[detoxed]

Originally posted by stocktrader23
A sales rep doesn't refer every person they represent.

Thats not true, some programs consider a sales rep is just someone referring webmasters for a % and providing support for free.

[xxxdesign-net]

Originally posted by Sly_RJ
There's a big difference. I don't think most of you webmasters realize that affiliate reps are responsible for much more than sitting on a board and answering ICQs all day. There's a lot of little work that must be done, work that takes a fair amount of time.

no, that I know.... I was referring to his payment plan... based on how many webmasters you have under you.. which that.. is no different than programs paying you a % for the sales webmasters under you make...

[Alex From San Diego]

Originally posted by xxxdesign-net
If I have 100 sales/day under me using a random program:
100 sales x 365days x $25 x 3 month (average stay) x10% ref. = $273,750 .. ..

you offer $74,825.00 for your reps...

Like I said, I'm not about to explain our compensation plan or how our system works to you especially in this forum.

You seem to want to try to slam me here and throw your numbers around real quick, but let me just say, you are way off.

[Libertine]

Originally posted by Steve
If newbies can buy a decent template from a professional designer, crop + insert content, and manage to post 1 gallery/day without being blacklisted, I would bet they do more than 10 joins/day with his program.

Dude, 10 sales a day * $30 a sale * 30 days a month = $9000 a month. Newbies don't make that easily just by posting a gallery a day. Look at that thread where programs post their top moneymakers for realistic references.

[Alex From San Diego]

Originally posted by Steve
If newbies can buy a decent template from a professional designer, crop + insert content, and manage to post 1 gallery/day without being blacklisted, I would bet they do more than 10 joins/day with his program.

Keywords "Decent Template"

[Sly_RJ]

Originally posted by Alex From San Diego
Like I said, I'm not about to explain our compensation plan or how our system works to you especially in this forum.

You seem to want to try to slam me here and throw your numbers around real quick, but let me just say, you are way off.

Alex I don't think he's trying to slam you, nor was I. This thread was about what sales reps make, you posted a list of what your sales reps make, then when asked questions about it you seem to get defensive. I don't quite understand?

By the way, is your program back up yet? Have been waiting to check out the interracial sites, Matt has been teasing me...

[xxxdesign-net]

Originally posted by Alex From San Diego
Like I said, I'm not about to explain our compensation plan or how our system works to you especially in this forum.

You seem to want to try to slam me here and throw your numbers around real quick, but let me just say, you are way off.

slam you? no just trying to understand how it really works.. nothing more...

[Libertine]

Originally posted by Alex From San Diego
Like I said, I'm not about to explain our compensation plan or how our system works to you especially in this forum.

You seem to want to try to slam me here and throw your numbers around real quick, but let me just say, you are way off.

Nobody's trying to attack you, it's just that you posted a link to that page in response to the question "how much do sales reps make?". Going simply by that page, things look pretty bleak for your sales reps.

I'm sure you have a way better payment system for them, it just looked kinda funny if one only looked at that page.

[stocktrader23]

Originally posted by detoxed
Thats not true, some programs consider a sales rep is just someone referring webmasters for a % and providing support for free.

Well those programs are just sugar coating being a referring webmaster. If I were looking for a sales job I would point that out to them 5 seconds before I told em to F off. ;)

[Steve]

Originally posted by punkworld
Dude, 10 sales a day * $30 a sale * 30 days a month = $9000 a month. Newbies don't make that easily just by posting a gallery a day. Look at that thread where programs post their top moneymakers for realistic references.

I didn't say the newbie designed the gallery. I said he bought a pro designed template, from a guy like FletchXXX.

All they do is plug-in content from Alex and post away.

Now, most newbies will NEVER do this - because they
1) dont know their ass from their elbow
2) wont invest $100 - $200 in templates, and roll the dice on good hosting.

But if you check his program, you'll see some real nice sites. The money is there, waiting to be made.

[McKracken]

Just look at the top100 affiliates stats from the last few days on GFY.... reps are pooor!

TiiiiiiiiiiiimmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmY

[Peaches]

Hmmmm - I'm bringing in about 100 sales a day and all I'm getting in the form of compensation is sex from Gabe and Cory.....

Am I winning or losing in this deal?!!