Cold Fusion / JSP programmers...

[Morgan]

Anyone know of an EXCELLENT cfm/jsp programmer?? I need one for a mainstream retail site my girlfriend is starting.

Thanks.

[Libertine]

Why cold fusion or jsp? Programming costs more, and the results won't be much different from php or mod_perl.

[NoCarrier]

I was programming Cold Fusion when I used to work for Compuware. Old memories..

Yeah, why Cold Fusion? You could use ASP or PHP like punkworld mentionned..

[Morgan]

Originally posted by NoCarrier
I was programming Cold Fusion when I used to work for Compuware. Old memories..

Yeah, why Cold Fusion? You could use ASP or PHP like punkworld mentionned..

Only reason being, the sites I have looked at that do what she wants to do:

http://www.delias.com
http://www.shopbop.com

are all written in those languages... I THINK. Im lost when it comes to programming.

U guys think php would be the best solution for this?

[iFliPcEss]

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[Libertine]

Originally posted by Ganjasaurus
Only reason being, the sites I have looked at that do what she wants to do:

http://www.delias.com
http://www.shopbot.com

are all written in those languages... I THINK. Im lost when it comes to programming.

U guys think php would be the best solution for this?

Ehm... yeah?!
A good cfm or jsp program will generally literally cost you 5 times as much as the same program in php. cfm even is slower than php in most cases, and jsp is faster but with the speed of servers these days that shouldn't make a huge difference.

And don't forget... there are already tons of goods open source scripts in php ( http://www.oscommerce.com/ ), which is quite different in cfm and jsp.

[Morgan]

Originally posted by punkworld
Ehm... yeah?!
A good cfm or jsp program will generally literally cost you 5 times as much as the same program in php. cfm even is slower than php in most cases, and jsp is faster but with the speed of servers these days that shouldn't make a huge difference.

And don't forget... there are already tons of goods open source scripts in php ( http://www.oscommerce.com/ ), which is quite different in cfm and jsp.

thanks man... i appreciate the input.

why do you think these people are all using non php scripts??? any other benefits to jsp?

if money were not an issue, what would you use?

[NoCarrier]

Originally posted by Ganjasaurus
Only reason being, the sites I have looked at that do what she wants to do:

http://www.delias.com
http://www.shopbop.com

are all written in those languages... I THINK. Im lost when it comes to programming.

U guys think php would be the best solution for this?

Yes because with Cold Fusion you need to pay for a Cold Fusion server and that's more $$$$$

You could propably do the same with PHP...

But what do you exactly need? You need the site to be static or dynamic, you want an admin area to be able to change the site, products, news...?

[Morgan]

Originally posted by NoCarrier
Yes because with Cold Fusion you need to pay for a Cold Fusion server and that's more $$$$$

You could propably do the same with PHP...

But what do you exactly need? You need the site to be static or dynamic, you want an admin area to be able to change the site, products, news...?

Yes, add products, remove products, change prices, news/sales, etc..

[nastyking]

perl is the best solution. for everything

[Libertine]

Originally posted by Ganjasaurus
thanks man... i appreciate the input.

why do you think these people are all using non php scripts??? any other benefits to jsp?

if money were not an issue, what would you use?

In my opinion, the single biggest reason people use cfm and jsp is that they miscalculated how the market would develop a few years ago.

cfm has some benefits compared to php, to be fair... better error handling, better search functions, but ultimately it lacks the flexibility of php. It's also *supposed* to be faster, but I've never actually seen it work faster than php in practice.

It is often said about jsp that those who use it have more money than sense, and that's pretty much true. It's an entirely different scene and tradition, but one that is doomed imo.


Personally, I prefer C, mod_perl and PHP. C is fastest, ofcourse, but programming takes long and debugging is a pain in the ass. Also, there are way less skilled programmers available for it than for PHP.
PHP is easy, fast, flexible, there are tons of programmers for it and the amount of open source scripts that are available is insane. It lacks the speed of C and mod_perl though, and in all honesty it isn't a real "programming" language.

For most sites I'd still go with PHP, simply because making changes is easy, and there is tons of stuff available when I need it.

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[Morgan]

Cool... thank you guys very much!!!

one last thing.. what price range am i looking at with this project? i know that all depends on how complex it is, but by looking at those other 2 sites..... what do you think i should pay for something like those in php?

[Libertine]

Originally posted by Ganjasaurus
Cool... thank you guys very much!!!

one last thing.. what price range am i looking at with this project? i know that all depends on how complex it is, but by looking at those other 2 sites..... what do you think i should pay for something like those in php?

Custom-coded from scratch by an experienced programmer and properly tested it could range anywhere from $1k to $$$$$ depending on how complex you want it. A few thousand bucks seems likely, if you keep it pretty simple.

Edit: when using something like oscommerce it will be very little if you only need a bit of customization.

[bawdy]

i'd strongly recommend againt cold fusion... I've done a few sites with it and it sucks ass... I especially hate having to update other peoples code thats in cold fusion

definately look at php or asp/asp.net

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[Intrigue]

If price was no issue, i'd have imadigan do it, probably in asp.net (php would be fine, but ASP is nice for this sorta thing)

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