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[UnseenWorld]

Originally posted by Westin
not too take anything away from you Unseen ... but that pic you posted is over 190K !!!! if a tgp poster was to use that in their galleries, their BW bill would be 'somewhat' higher ...

and then thiis is PaulMarkham's pic ... which is only 25K ...

you guys compairing those pictures is like apples and oranges!

- Wes

Not to take anything away from your comment, but I'm aware of that. My sets include 25 pics in two sizes. That size and a size that's about 25% smaller in area (and hence K-size).

Also, it's easier to take a photo down in size than to make it bigger while retaining some semblance of quality. Any webmaster or TGP poster who has no clue how to quickly and easily resize or reduce the quality of photos in a controlled manner to reduce file size doesn't belong in the biz.

[UnseenWorld]

Originally posted by UnseenWorld


Not to take anything away from your comment, but I'm aware of that. My sets include 25 pics in two sizes. That size and a size that's about 25% smaller in area (and hence K-size).

Also, it's easier to take a photo down in size than to make it bigger while retaining some semblance of quality. Any webmaster or TGP poster who has no clue how to quickly and easily resize or reduce the quality of photos in a controlled manner to reduce file size doesn't belong in the biz.

Oops! I misspoke. I meant to say that the second size is 25% as big, not 25% smaller, which is a whole different story.

[Fletch XXX]

Originally posted by UnseenWorld
Any webmaster or TGP poster who has no clue how to quickly and easily resize or reduce the quality of photos in a controlled manner to reduce file size doesn't belong in the biz.

No shit huh, when dealing in content I always want the biggest possible, shit you say your pics come in 2 sizes thats more than some people do ya know... glad you offer the big ones fpr guys like me who care more about quality then quantity.

Also yeah if someone cant pop open a program and resize something to fit what ya need definitely wrong biz hehehe...

[ezwink]

Since no one knows me here....I'll throw in my . As a total unknown to both content providers in question (sounds kinda legal talk like?), I have to say that if someone can maintain themselves on a message board, in a semi-professional way, while being insulted...I would trust them with my credit card number. If they couldn't handle a little heat, what are they going to do when I have a customer service problem????

Think about it: content providers (and sponsors too) have a huge audience here....act like an ass-- and every webmaster, gallery builder, tgp owner that reads those messages is gonna think twice about dealing with them. (Personally someone who brags about everything they have done shows everyone in the room their insecure-- we either already know your hot shit, or it doesn't do you any good to brag).

Lets face it, both of you guys have different styles and tastes. Based on what I've heard, I know who will get my business.

http://www.afterglow-photo.com does show some kick ass work by the way.

(Shit- gave it away didn't I??)

PS: NO, I'm not a mole-- don't know anyone here from adam.

[Paul Markham]

Unfortunately we cannot be as selective as some shooters.
The right girl will sell a magazine or convert traffic into members.
Editors can pay an extra $600 for the right on the Front Cover and Centrefold. Put a picture of a special girl on your website front page, tour and watch the coversions rise.

We can not be so picky with girls, if a stunning girl walks in who sells like Cindy Crawford and an attitude, we bite the bullet and shoot her. Have to some of thse girls are worth $50K or more they sell mags, convert traffic and they know it.

They have been stunning since they were 10 years old and everyone tells them so. They get hit on in bars by every guy. All this sometimes gives her a force sense of worth, but as professional photographers we get on with our job and turn her into a "sex kitten" for our clients

Here's a few of girls we have to put up with their attitude. So long as you do not see it in the picture it's fine, that's our job.



These kind girls do not grow on trees, they're good and worth a few hours of "attitude". Would be great if we could choose to shoot a girl on her attitude, unfortunately how she sells is what matters. Like photographers, you want to buy from a mate? Give your buddy a camera. Want a site or magazine that sells? Choose images based on what they are and not the guy that sells them.

[Fletch XXX]

Charly whoever she is, ill take every pic you have of her!

<img src=http://popcornsex.com/sexkitten.gif>




God damn thats tasty!

[chodadog]

Originally posted by AaronM

Kinda like a rainman with a camera.

You continue to crack me up, over and over again Aaron. Thank you!

[AaronM]

Originally posted by charly
.....We can not be so picky with girls, if a stunning girl walks in who sells like Cindy Crawford and an attitude, we bite the bullet and shoot her. ......

So, what you are saying is that you are not as successful as you try to appear. Basically you are forced to deal with shitty attitudes so you can buy diapers for the baby, gigolos for the wife, and Viagra and Depends for yourself.

As for the pics you posted. The first girl shows bad attitude, the 2nd girl is not cute enough to warrant shooting her if she has an attitude issue, and the 3rd girl is Fletch's girlfriend. She might be the exception to the rule in this case but I can only assume that you posted the pic which shows the least amount of attitude in it so she is most likely the biggest bitch of them all.

[UnseenWorld]

Originally posted by charly
And please stop thinking of these girls like your daughters, it's sad. Some girls are only to happy to pose with a guy, they are not virgins. So if she is licking out some girl thats fine, but if she is having sex with a guy that makes her a slut. Not in my eyes that is natural, what you think is alright is bi-sexual and not natural. Strange logic, anyone else see it? Plus I speak as someone with two daughters and a bi-sexual wife. And she is not ashamed of it or worried that I tell you.

I guess you can't read, Charly. I never said anything about thinking of these girls as my daughters, but I suppose an illiterate sitting there with a dictionary might piece the sentence together in that mistaken way.

I did say one reason I don't shoot b/g hard-core is that I don't think my daughter would accept that. That is not "thinking of these girls like your daughters."

What I said about the change in perception is something I have OBSERVED. I've observed it in threads on this board: that girls who do boys are not respected the same as the girls who stick to solo and g/g modeling. That they are thought of (by many, not all, of course) as sluts. That "I love looking at them but I wouldn't want one for a wife or girlfriend."

That's all I said. It isn't my attitude, it's an attitude I've observed, and it's a common attitude. My only attitude is that I have a duty to inform, so that's what I tell girls who seem to be ready to graduate from solo and g/g into b/g.

[Paul Markham]

Originally posted by Fletch XXX
Charly whoever she is, ill take every pic you have of her!

<img src=http://popcornsex.com/sexkitten.gif>



God damn thats tasty!

Go to the site and see her.



This is from a boy girl set we shot of her, the rest of her sets are listed. Hit the Susan PJ button by her photo.