Servermatrix.com anyone using it? Need a new hoster!

[cayne]

I need a hoster for my new website and I gonna need a shitload of bandwidth. That's why I'm thinking about the "unmetered" 20Mbps plan. Does somebody have any experience with such unmetered packages?
Or do you know a good alternative?
I'm willing to pay up to 250$/month.

thanks in advance.

[Roger]

I have a server with them but I haven't had any problems yet so I don't know wether they have good or bad customer support.

[nekrom]

Hi I just took a look, the 20mpbs Unmeterd plan actulay costs $399pm. And they use Cogent bw, if you don't mind.

While were a littly more pricy, we only use Premium Burstable Bandwith.

Links in the sig, if you fancy a read.

Regards N.

[Johnny - Wellcash]

What i have heard of servermatrix works good. Im using ev1servers.net and they work very good.

[cayne]

Originally posted by nekrom
costs $399pm. And they use Cogent bw,

Yeah the 20mbps costs 349$, but I think that 10mbps is enough for the beginning.

And I don't know Cogent, what's wrong with them?

[DIH]

i just got a quote of around 320 if you choose plesk or cpanel what link yall using?


https://www.servermatrix.com/solutio...us_server.html

cogent seems cool now, I dont see what the big fuss was about.

Ima buy one next week and see whats up with their connection

but I will tell you this I ve had several servers on the sm regular network and never had any downtime or problem barely even contact customer service the shit runs so smoothly

btw that quote is for the high end unban server 320

the lowend with one gig ram is like 269 with unban and cpanel or plesk

[fris]

cogent , you have no backup stream, so your fucked.

its the shittiest bandwidh you can get. thats why you can buy it in bulk and over sell it.

[RicardoB]

Hosting in all sorts & sizes and prices

[cayne]

Originally posted by fris
cogent , you have no backup stream, so your fucked.

its the shittiest bandwidh you can get. thats why you can buy it in bulk and over sell it.

for real?
can't believe that the bandwidth is so bad...

[Magg]

Originally posted by cayne
for real?
can't believe that the bandwidth is so bad...

Look at the price theyre selling it at... then look at other hosts, then make your decision.


Plus servermatrix support supposedly sucks, I hear it all the time.

[Jace]

Originally posted by cayne
for real?
can't believe that the bandwidth is so bad...

he didn't say it was bad, he said there is no backup stream...so if that goes out your fucked...nothing backing up to make sure your up and running if I understand right

[steve90]

Originally posted by cayne
Yeah the 20mbps costs 349$, but I think that 10mbps is enough for the beginning.

And I don't know Cogent, what's wrong with them?

Cogent means that the 20Mbits is shared

[EviLGuY]

I use servermatrix's parent company.. http://www.theplanet.com - same network and everything just The Planet is managed and Servermatrix isn't.

Been there over a year and I have absolutely NO complaints.Great uptime.

[Magg]

these 10 and 20 mbps deals arnt on the same network, they arnt even on the same network other servermatrix servers are on...

[AWC]

ServerMatrix uses Cogent bandwith?

I call BULLSHIT!

Backbone Carriers

1 Gbps Direct Fiber - UUNET
1 Gbps Direct Fiber - Time Warner
2 Gbps Direct Fiber - Level 3
1 Gbps Direct Fiber - Verio
1 Gbps Direct Fiber - Global Crossing
2 Gbps Direct Fiber - AboveNet
2 Gbps Direct Fiber - Sprint
1 Gbps Direct Fiber - AT&T
1 Gbps Direct Fiber - nLayer
T3 and T1 Access - EPGN
T3 and T1 Access - SBC
T3 and T1 Access - Time Warner
T3 and T1 Access - XO Communications
T3 and T1 Access - MCI

[Magg]

Dude, dont be a dumbass, it says it RIGHT ON THE ORDER PAGE for those servers.

[Magg]

[korzon]

[cayne]

hmmm now I'm as clueless as before starting this thread
I visited NatNet, Jupiterhosting, ... but it seems like they offer only special deals, and don't think they are in my price class.

[MrJackMeHoff]

You get what you pay for. You wanna be a cheap ass your gonna get cheap ass service.

[MickeyG]

I use servermatrix and their little $60 month dedicated server, right now im ready to move to someone else due to the slow ass speeds i get from them. Anything over 7gb a day and the server gets very slow.

[AdultNex]

The MatriXtreme servers use Cogent, but their other servers don't.

[http]

Originally posted by cayne
hmmm now I'm as clueless as before starting this thread
I visited NatNet, Jupiterhosting, ... but it seems like they offer only special deals, and don't think they are in my price class.

If the content of your site doesn't get changed very often, and there is no database involved, it could be an interesting option to get i.e. 4 x 1000 GB servers for ~$60 each and round robin them.

Gives you a combined burstability of 40 mbps (4x10) and 4000-4800 GB to use - theoretically. Realistically you use 3200 - 4000 GB as you do not want to be charged for overage and try to stay below the 1000/1200 GB per server. Once you aproach 80-90% of one server's BW allowance, you just add another server to your round robin.

[garett]

I host with ServerMatrix and their parent company, ThePlanet.

Their support isn't the greatest, but it's not the worst either. If you have an issue you can call a toll free number and get a tech guy on the line to help you right away. It's their online support that's kind of lengthy. They have a 'ticket' system and it usually takes a couple hours to a day to get someone to look into your problem if you don't call.

Their regular ServerMatrix servers and TotalControl servers run on an awesome network. They've got like 6 different backbone providers. Their MatrixExtreme servers run on Cogent, as has already been explained.

I don't use a MatrixExtreme server and I don't intend to in the future. BW quality is important to me, but that doesn't mean they're not good servers for the price.

I do recommend ServerMatrix and ThePlanet if you're comfortable running your own box. If you don't have any *nix or networking experience then go with something a little more friendly. You must be able to configure apache and ftp yourself etc.

[Brad Mitchell]

This always makes me laugh. They don't even buy cogent bandwidth at prices below what they are selling at. How they're doing it by oversubscription or other math games, I don't know. Nonetheless, enjoy!

Brad

[Tim]

We want your business and will beat anybodys offer. Bandwidth prices can be negotiated.

Let me know if you want me set you up a discount

Check out: Server Provider

- 24/7 telephone support.
- 100% managed. including scripts debugging etc.. etc..
- weekly backups of your server.

ICQ: 100 341 483

[nekrom]

@ cayne. Yheap thats what I ment by Cogent BW.

If your still looking, take a peek at my sig mate. We only use Premium burstable BW, with 12+ carriers. Running on a nice bakbone and were offshore.

[Moose]

Originally posted by nekrom
@ cayne. Yheap thats what I ment by Cogent BW.

If your still looking, take a peek at my sig mate. We only use Premium burstable BW, with 12+ carriers. Running on a nice bakbone and were offshore.

Where are you people coming from.
Stop bullshitting the nice people on GFY.

Since when is Cogent "Premium" And Miami "Offshore"
Traceroute to your "hosting" site:

Traceroute to welikeoffshore.com

> 4 209.0.8.1 16ms 16ms 0ms TTL: 0 (so-0-0-0-0.gar1.SanDiego1.Level3.net ok)
> 5 4.68.113.93 0ms 16ms 15ms TTL: 0 (so-7-0-0.mp1.SanDiego1.Level3.net ok)
> 6 64.159.1.130 31ms 31ms 16ms TTL: 0 (ge-0-1-0.bbr2.SanJose1.Level3.net ok)
> 7 209.244.3.142 31ms 16ms 31ms TTL: 0 (so-7-0-0.edge1.SanJose1.Level3.net ok)
> 8 4.68.127.18 31ms 31ms 16ms TTL: 0 (cogent-level3-oc48.SanJose1.Level3.net ok)
> 9 154.54.2.221 15ms 15ms 31ms TTL: 0 (p6-0.core01.sjc01.atlas.cogentco.com probable bogus rDNS: No DNS)
> 10 66.28.4.73 31ms 31ms 32ms TTL: 0 (p13-0.core01.lax01.atlas.cogentco.com probable bogus rDNS: No DNS)
> 11 66.28.4.78 31ms 31ms 47ms TTL: 0 (p5-0.core01.san01.atlas.cogentco.com probable bogus rDNS: No DNS)
> 12 66.28.4.5 62ms 63ms 47ms TTL: 0 (p6-0.core01.iah01.atlas.cogentco.com probable bogus rDNS: No DNS)
> 13 66.28.4.46 94ms 78ms 94ms TTL: 0 (p15-0.core01.tpa01.atlas.cogentco.com probable bogus rDNS: No DNS)
> 14 66.28.4.57 94ms 94ms 93ms TTL: 0 (p5-0.core01.mia01.atlas.cogentco.com probable bogus rDNS: No DNS)
> 15 66.250.11.22 94ms 94ms 94ms TTL: 0 (g8.na01.b006097-0.mia01.atlas.cogentco.com probable bogus rDNS: No DNS)
> 16 66.250.5.22 94ms 93ms 93ms TTL: 0 (free bogus rDNS: host not found [authoritative])
> 17 216.22.111.34 94ms 94ms 94ms TTL: 51 (No rDNS)

[Magg]

Originally posted by SinEmpire
This always makes me laugh. They don't even buy cogent bandwidth at prices below what they are selling at. How they're doing it by oversubscription or other math games, I don't know. Nonetheless, enjoy!

Brad

That needs to be said again.

[Fabuleux]

I've done some research on Cogent BW. I think Cogent has the worst reputation, but it ain't the worst bandwidth. And Cogent is cheap, but not the cheapest.

I don't say that Cogent is all good, but I don't trust the companies who state with big letters on their website "No Cogent". They probably use cheaper and worse BW then Cogent...

Cogent BW costs $1000/100MBit. I hope ServerMatrix doesn't sell the same BW twice...

By the way, I stay with http://www.jupiterhosting.com
When I submit a support ticket, it will be read within minutes, instead of hours or days.

[DutchTeenCash]

Originally posted by nekrom
Hi I just took a look, the 20mpbs Unmeterd plan actulay costs $399pm. And they use Cogent bw, if you don't mind.

While were a littly more pricy, we only use Premium Burstable Bandwith.

Links in the sig, if you fancy a read.

Regards N.

since when is Amsterdam offshore ???????

[cayne]

thanks http & garret - nice answers

Originally posted by http
If the content of your site doesn't get changed very often, and there is no database involved, it could be an interesting option to get i.e. 4 x 1000 GB servers for ~$60 each and round robin them.

that's a great idea, never thought of that possibility. But I think that I'll need a database, at least for the traffic trading script and perhaps a small news-script. Anyway, the biggest part of the website gonna be static.

Originally posted by garett
I do recommend ServerMatrix and ThePlanet if you're comfortable running your own box. If you don't have any *nix or networking experience then go with something a little more friendly. You must be able to configure apache and ftp yourself etc.

1. I'm from germany and my english isn't bad, but I don't know if its good enough for explaining any technical problems to a tech-guy on the phone...
2. My networking experiences are VERY low, I know a few guys who can probably help me out with some issues, but I'm a bit afraid of running such a server, mostly of the possibility that somebody can hack into my server.

I saw on their website different levels of managed services, but it doesn't look like a huge help.

The best thing for me would be a "general" hosting package, but I never saw such a plan with more than 1TB and they are of course very expensive. So that's why I'm looking for a dedicated (perhaps managed) server....fuck I hate that "searching" for a new hoster...

[DutchTeenCash]

well id say get a managed server with a company that has someone who speaks german, either in germany or a US company who has german language support...

plus if you dunno much about managing a server, id say check our www.simplecom.net they pretty good, over 99% uptime since almost a yr now, but there are others here who are as good as well...

wenn du deutsch reden wunscht email mich bob AT thinkx DOT tv

[cayne]

Originally posted by Fabuleux
By the way, I stay with http://www.jupiterhosting.com
When I submit a support ticket, it will be read within minutes, instead of hours or days.

Yeah, seems like they are very reliable. How much are you paying, if the questions is allowed. Because I don't see any prices on their website.

Btw. GFY is hosted by jupiter too, or am I wrong?

[sandman!]

Originally posted by Fabuleux
I've done some research on Cogent BW. I think Cogent has the worst reputation, but it ain't the worst bandwidth. And Cogent is cheap, but not the cheapest.

I don't say that Cogent is all good, but I don't trust the companies who state with big letters on their website "No Cogent". They probably use cheaper and worse BW then Cogent...

Cogent BW costs $1000/100MBit. I hope ServerMatrix doesn't sell the same BW twice...

By the way, I stay with http://www.jupiterhosting.com
When I submit a support ticket, it will be read within minutes, instead of hours or days.

Your an idiot who cant read its $3000 for a 100 meg line from cogent the $1000 line is only for office use.

[davvve]

I've got some servers with them. Their telephone support is decent but their online helpdesk is really slow.

[Magg]

Not even office use, just specific types of business, and you have to have more INBOUND than outbound... PLUS, you need to be near or in a cogent lit building, otherwise good luck with local loop fees, and other shit for the building youre in.

Its $30/Mbps - they arnt the cheapest, and that bandwidth is highly oversold. (servermatrix's)

[sandman!]

Originally posted by Magg
Not even office use, just specific types of business, and you have to have more INBOUND than outbound... PLUS, you need to be near or in a cogent lit building, otherwise good luck with local loop fees, and other shit for the building youre in.

Its $30/Mbps - they arnt the cheapest, and that bandwidth is highly oversold. (servermatrix's)

yea but you can get a rack for $500-800 at many datacenters and get a cogent line.

No need for loop fees

[Fabuleux]

Originally posted by cayne
Yeah, seems like they are very reliable. How much are you paying, if the questions is allowed. Because I don't see any prices on their website.

Btw. GFY is hosted by jupiter too, or am I wrong?

Yes they are. And so is Adult.com and lots of others. Since the price isn't on their page I'm not going to put it here but you are welcome to hit me up on ICQ: 287249658

[Magg]

Originally posted by sandman!
yea but you can get a rack for $500-800 at many datacenters and get a cogent line.

No need for loop fees

Yeha, but then what good is its use in the office? You cant host servers off it. The $1000 for 100Mbps is for libraries, lawyers offices and shit, not for hosting.

So even if you got some rackspace, put up a server, you'd still need to run a transport to your office or where ever

[cayne]

Originally posted by thinkx
wenn du deutsch reden wunscht email mich bob AT thinkx DOT tv

Hehe, I don't have problems with reading and writing stuff in English (of course I make some mistakes, but not many (hopefully ;)) And I definitvely need a US hoster due to some stupid laws in germany. (The hoster of my website phun.org is located in the US too and the support works very well - in English.

And I think that we could talk better in English than in German, because your German is kinda funny - anyway nice try and thanks for the offer - perhaps I contact you later.

[sandman!]

Originally posted by Magg
Yeha, but then what good is its use in the office? You cant host servers off it. The $1000 for 100Mbps is for libraries, lawyers offices and shit, not for hosting.

So even if you got some rackspace, put up a server, you'd still need to run a transport to your office or where ever

i was assuming you were talking about the $3000 100mbs line for hosting not the $100 line.
here is chicago cogent only offers the $1000 line downtown so unless your near downtown spending alot on an office no way to get the $1000 line and i think the $1000 includes transport not 100% sure tho.

[DTK]

Servermatrix is fine by me...though as mentioned, it does help if you can admin your boxes a bit.

[dready]

They are very good... if you can swing it, go for their higher end products at http://www.theplanet.com/

[cayne]

Originally posted by dready
They are very good... if you can swing it, go for their higher end products at http://www.theplanet.com/

Yeah they have a good offer. Dual Xenon 2.8 with 2TB traffic for 199$ - Hopefully no cogent BW.

[zagi]

Seems like they're not the cheapest but the worst reputation part is definitely true. They were the first of the cheapest hosts and now new ones have sprung up that undercut Cogent's prices by oversubscribing.

What I've seen is the servers max out 60-70% below the 1000G/monthly limit so figure you can push upto a max of 2 or 3 mbps on em, after that your site will considerably slow down due to the congested burstable pipe and you will almost never max out the 1000G/month limit.

Now they're more or less good servers for starting out but guys this is something you learn from the pros, learn when to 'upgrade' properly and you'll have a happy business Don't starve your sites of BW or speed.

[jpoker]

I've been using servermatrix for several months. If you need
lots of bandwidth for something like gallery hosting, simply
buy several of the $69 servers and use round robin dns
to distribute the load and use rsync to mirror the content.
I've set this up for several folks now and it works great
and is cheaper than buying their unmetered servers.

My only complaint is that they are sometimes a little
slow to answer their tickets.

- jpoker

[nekrom]

Originally posted by Moose
Where are you people coming from.
Stop bullshitting the nice people on GFY.

Since when is Cogent "Premium" And Miami "Offshore"
Traceroute to your "hosting" site:

Traceroute to welikeoffshore.com

> 4 209.0.8.1 16ms 16ms 0ms TTL: 0 (so-0-0-0-0.gar1.SanDiego1.Level3.net ok)
> 5 4.68.113.93 0ms 16ms 15ms TTL: 0 (so-7-0-0.mp1.SanDiego1.Level3.net ok)
> 6 64.159.1.130 31ms 31ms 16ms TTL: 0 (ge-0-1-0.bbr2.SanJose1.Level3.net ok)
> 7 209.244.3.142 31ms 16ms 31ms TTL: 0 (so-7-0-0.edge1.SanJose1.Level3.net ok)
> 8 4.68.127.18 31ms 31ms 16ms TTL: 0 (cogent-level3-oc48.SanJose1.Level3.net ok)
> 9 154.54.2.221 15ms 15ms 31ms TTL: 0 (p6-0.core01.sjc01.atlas.cogentco.com probable bogus rDNS: No DNS)
> 10 66.28.4.73 31ms 31ms 32ms TTL: 0 (p13-0.core01.lax01.atlas.cogentco.com probable bogus rDNS: No DNS)
> 11 66.28.4.78 31ms 31ms 47ms TTL: 0 (p5-0.core01.san01.atlas.cogentco.com probable bogus rDNS: No DNS)
> 12 66.28.4.5 62ms 63ms 47ms TTL: 0 (p6-0.core01.iah01.atlas.cogentco.com probable bogus rDNS: No DNS)
> 13 66.28.4.46 94ms 78ms 94ms TTL: 0 (p15-0.core01.tpa01.atlas.cogentco.com probable bogus rDNS: No DNS)
> 14 66.28.4.57 94ms 94ms 93ms TTL: 0 (p5-0.core01.mia01.atlas.cogentco.com probable bogus rDNS: No DNS)
> 15 66.250.11.22 94ms 94ms 94ms TTL: 0 (g8.na01.b006097-0.mia01.atlas.cogentco.com probable bogus rDNS: No DNS)
> 16 66.250.5.22 94ms 93ms 93ms TTL: 0 (free bogus rDNS: host not found [authoritative])
> 17 216.22.111.34 94ms 94ms 94ms TTL: 51 (No rDNS)

Yehap thats 100% correct mate, our site is up on one of our boxes, in our Florida NOC.

Offshore "CLIENTS" sites are set up in our "Amsterdam" NOC.

For more information read this:
About Us.

Have a great day.

Regards N.

[nekrom]

Originally posted by thinkx
since when is Amsterdam offshore ???????

According to the latest 2257 regs, amendament about to go through. New laws are only applicable to US states, and US controlled countries.

Therfore Amsterdam is offshore, any questions please feel free to contact the owners of Global Switch.

Regards N.

[cayne]

Originally posted by jpoker
simply buy several of the $69 servers and use round robin dns
to distribute the load and use rsync to mirror the content.
I've set this up for several folks now and it works great
and is cheaper than buying their unmetered servers.

That's indeed a good idea, but looks like you need a good amount of networking skills, which I don't have.