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  • KRL
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    • Oct 2002
    • 31429

    #1

    Adios Republicans

    The Democrats really have their shit together this election.

    Never heard so many great positive and uplifting speeches.



    From An Ex Republican
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  • KRL
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    • Oct 2002
    • 31429

    #2


    What GFY character does that mouth thing remind you of?


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    • Jonathan Quarkschowski
      So Fucking Banned
      • Jun 2004
      • 631

      #3
      cancer or AIDS ??

      america will decide.

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      • xxxdesign-net
        My hips don't lie
        • Nov 2002
        • 10129

        #4
        Originally posted by KRL
        The Democrats really have their shit together this election.

        sadly they dont... the whole thing is a mess... One democrat talk about being sick and tired of negative attacks while another will not hesitate to attack Bush on his record.. Edwards kinda shot himslef in the foot with his comment.. Democrats have much more to gain by attacking the republicans than vice-versa...

        And then you have that bonehead Lieberman (who is pretty much in the middle of the political spectrum.. could easily be a repuclican) go on on CNN telling how the US was right to go to Iraq and how Saddam was a big threat.. He even go on to say that many democrats thinks like him...

        And then you have Kerry and Edwards who voted to go to war and still have very vague position on the issue...

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        • fr8
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          • Mar 2003
          • 5074

          #5
          Originally posted by KRL


          What GFY character does that mouth thing remind you of?


          I say juicy. Of course I see him in my dreams.
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          • gornyhuy
            Chafed.
            • May 2002
            • 18041

            #6
            Clinton's speech was really solid.

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            • herbal logic
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              • Feb 2004
              • 1172

              #7

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              • Tom_PMs
                Confirmed User
                • Jun 2004
                • 2049

                #8
                Agreed, KRL

                Extremely uplifting, hopeful message, tons of enthusiasm and excitement. Going to be an election alot like when reagan beat carter; polls are useless this time around.

                You've read it, you can't unread it.

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                • TheJimmy
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                  • Jan 2001
                  • 10747

                  #9
                  Originally posted by KRL
                  ....
                  From An Ex Republican


                  oh man, I'm glad I'm not alone...


                  I know a few personally that are now ex-republicans...but you're the first one I've seen admit it openly online...
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                  • Gheenz
                    Here's Your Sign
                    • Oct 2003
                    • 2410

                    #10
                    Originally posted by KRL
                    The Democrats really have their shit together this election.

                    Never heard so many great positive and uplifting speeches.



                    From An Ex Republican
                    Yeppers! I'm loving it!

                    Go Dems
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                    • clickhappy
                      Confirmed User
                      • Mar 2004
                      • 4027

                      #11
                      Originally posted by KRL

                      From An Ex Republican
                      just curious, why ex?

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                      • Gheenz
                        Here's Your Sign
                        • Oct 2003
                        • 2410

                        #12
                        Originally posted by TheJimmy
                        oh man, I'm glad I'm not alone...


                        I know a few personally that are now ex-republicans...but you're the first one I've seen admit it openly online...
                        I know I sure as hell am ex-Republican. I even voted for Bush the first time around
                        Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities. -Voltaire

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                        • PornHero
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                          • Feb 2001
                          • 1381

                          #13
                          Originally posted by KRL
                          The Democrats really have their shit together this election.

                          Never heard so many great positive and uplifting speeches.



                          From An Ex Republican
                          I agree, here is a link where you can see some of the speeches:
                          http://www.dems2004.org/site/apps/nl...LaPYG&b=125919

                          You gotta listen to Al Gore and Bill Clinton's speeches.
                          Last edited by PornHero; 07-28-2004, 07:26 PM.
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                          • KRL
                            Entrepreneur
                            • Oct 2002
                            • 31429

                            #14
                            Originally posted by TheJimmy
                            oh man, I'm glad I'm not alone...


                            I know a few personally that are now ex-republicans...but you're the first one I've seen admit it openly online...
                            Yeh, and it pisses me off too that the Bush administration has mucked up the whole Republican image catering to the ultra right wing faction.

                            Dumb asses. Greed got the best of them as usual.
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                            • boobmaster
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                              • Jul 2003
                              • 6185

                              #15
                              Originally posted by KRL
                              The Democrats really have their shit together this election.

                              Never heard so many great positive and uplifting speeches.



                              From An Ex Republican
                              Nobody watches the conventions. Besides, when the republicans get to NY next month and start wrapping themselves in the American flag, nobody will remember what Kerry or Edwards said this week.

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                              • BlingDaddy
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                                • Apr 2004
                                • 6343

                                #16
                                Originally posted by KRL
                                The Democrats really have their shit together this election.

                                Never heard so many great positive and uplifting speeches.



                                From An Ex Republican
                                Cmon KRL.... this fuckin scared me.... "no one in America should live in poverty".

                                WTF is that? That smacks of communism and made me shiver. He's talking about making those who make $$$ pay for those that don't. I feel sorry for the "underpriviledged", but alot of us have worked hard to get places. My resume is a mile deep with trials and tribulations. Now I have to pay for someone else?

                                Please come back to the party, and realize that all are not equal, there is such a thing as "natural selection" and that Edwards words on "terror" were scripted to gain votes.

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                                • hottoddy
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                                  • Oct 2002
                                  • 3049

                                  #17
                                  Unlikely. There may be some sense of unity now, but most pundits think the Dem convention has been fairly weak so far. It looks like Dance Party USA most of the time and has received historical low ratings. The Pubs get to come in a full month closer to election time.
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                                  • BlingDaddy
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                                    • Apr 2004
                                    • 6343

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by KRL
                                    Yeh, and it pisses me off too that the Bush administration has mucked up the whole Republican image catering to the ultra right wing faction.

                                    Dumb asses. Greed got the best of them as usual.
                                    KRL, Greed? Or defending the country when it's unpopular to fight.. There is a difference.

                                    I'm gonna have another beer and ponder....
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                                    • crockett
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                                      • May 2003
                                      • 76818

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by KRL


                                      What GFY character does that mouth thing remind you of?




                                      good pic... but yea the speeches have been great.. I hope Kerry can do a good one.
                                      In November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator.

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                                      • pussyluver
                                        Clueless OleMan
                                        • Mar 2003
                                        • 11009

                                        #20
                                        Not so fast. The polls are yet to show a bounce to the Dems favor. In fact Bush is closing in on a win already. So unless something happens........

                                        Don't need any Bush hate talk. I didn't say I wanted Bush to win!

                                        Nice speech, but it was just talk. Well at least Edwards can give a speach.

                                        So let's see today we have Edwards having lunch with the mob and Bush taking anti-depressant drugs. What a wonderful country.

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                                        • KRL
                                          Entrepreneur
                                          • Oct 2002
                                          • 31429

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by clickhappy
                                          just curious, why ex?
                                          All the Republicans had to do was stay more close to the center and tone down the far right wing agenda ass kissing, instead they've gone all the way off center. Fucked up our image worldwide. Killed 900 young soldiers that didn't have to die had we had more countries helping us with Iraq.

                                          The deficit is out of control. Its a disaster anyway you look at.

                                          I can no longer support or trust these guys with the power of running our country.

                                          Not saying Kerry is perfect. Far from it. But of the two I'd rather pay higher taxes and have a whole change of direction than the way we are going now which is down the toilet.
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                                          • BlingDaddy
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                                            • Apr 2004
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                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by KRL
                                            Yeh, and it pisses me off too that the Bush administration has mucked up the whole Republican image catering to the ultra right wing faction.

                                            Dumb asses. Greed got the best of them as usual.
                                            PS.... GWB is RICH as fuck, and doesn't need money as a motivator. Mr. Kerry sure did marry the right family though! (see prenup)
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                                            • clickhappy
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                                              • Mar 2004
                                              • 4027

                                              #23
                                              I dont really care about Bush or Kerry.

                                              Im just voting for Kerry to get "you-know-who" out of there and leave porn alone.

                                              And I hate that "now watch this drive" line. that arrogance pissed me off.

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                                              • boobmaster
                                                So Fucking Banned
                                                • Jul 2003
                                                • 6185

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by gornyhuy
                                                Clinton's speech was really solid.
                                                ... which would be important if Clinton was on the ticket. He's not.

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                                                • Centurion
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                                                  • Dec 2002
                                                  • 6033

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by pussyluver
                                                  Not so fast. The polls are yet to show a bounce to the Dems favor. In fact Bush is closing in on a win already. So unless something happens........

                                                  Ah..the folks that live in the alternate universes!
                                                  And as for the polls, they're not releasing or doing any polls until the convention is OVER!

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                                                  • Snake Doctor
                                                    I'm Lenny2 Bitch
                                                    • Mar 2001
                                                    • 13449

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by BlingDaddy
                                                    Please come back to the party, and realize that all are not equal, there is such a thing as "natural selection"
                                                    That's what the nobles said about the serfs in the middle ages, is that the type of society you want to go back to?

                                                    That whole natural selection line pretty well sums up your ignorance.
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                                                    • KRL
                                                      Entrepreneur
                                                      • Oct 2002
                                                      • 31429

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by BlingDaddy
                                                      KRL, Greed? Or defending the country when it's unpopular to fight.. There is a difference.

                                                      I'm gonna have another beer and ponder....
                                                      The bottom line is Iraq should have been taken out with the full military support of all our allies.

                                                      Instead Bush and his cronies alienated everyone and we had to do it all our selves.

                                                      900 of our precious young Americans got killed and thousands more injured and maimed when they didn't have to if we had a more balanced international force going in.
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                                                      • BlingDaddy
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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by Lenny2
                                                        That's what the nobles said about the serfs in the middle ages, is that the type of society you want to go back to?

                                                        That whole natural selection line pretty well sums up your ignorance.
                                                        Lenny, my line about "natural selection" is right on the mark, and displays no ignorance. Have you been to Nigeria? I have... Have you been the the Dominican Republic? I Have...

                                                        Our "poverty" livers look like fucking Bill Gates compared to some of these people. This isn't about "knights and serfs". We live in a democracy, not a monarchy.

                                                        If you want to save everyone, and put everyone on equal footing go ahead. Welcome to Stalin ..... That worked well didn't it!

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                                                        • Tom_PMs
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                                                          • Jun 2004
                                                          • 2049

                                                          #29
                                                          Crazy.. If people "dont watch", then why will it matter what the republicans do in NY?

                                                          Also, the polls are of likely voters. if you think this year that the same people who voted last year are all who're going to vote this year, I dont think you see how disenfranchised people are..

                                                          Also, 3 days before regan trounced carter, the polls showed them within 3 points of each other. Useless. Last election the EXIT polls were wrong. Useless.

                                                          You've read it, you can't unread it.

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                                                          • kane
                                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                            • Aug 2001
                                                            • 20684

                                                            #30
                                                            the dems got a bounce in the polls with the selection of edwards and will get another one after the convention. Bush will then have his convention and get a bounce in the polls. The election will be won or lost with the debates. Gore totally fucked himself during the debates and never recovered from it in key states. If Kerry can handle bush in the debates he will have a good chance.

                                                            Edwards will destroy cheney in the vice debate because he has made his living convincing people he is correct. But I still think the republicans will dump cheney and get gulliani before the election and that could give them a big boost.

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                                                            • boobmaster
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                                                              • Jul 2003
                                                              • 6185

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by KRL
                                                              Yeh, and it pisses me off too that the Bush administration has mucked up the whole Republican image catering to the ultra right wing faction.

                                                              Dumb asses. Greed got the best of them as usual.
                                                              The religious right VOTES, which is why the republican party caters to it. For all the bitching that goes on about the views of the extreme religious right, one thing is for certain: they vote in greater percentages than do most other groups. If we adult webmasters voted as much, the parties would listen more to us.

                                                              If you don't vote in November, you have NO FUCKING RIGHT TO BITCH, PERIOD!

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                                                              • boobmaster
                                                                So Fucking Banned
                                                                • Jul 2003
                                                                • 6185

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by BlingDaddy
                                                                Cmon KRL.... this fuckin scared me.... "no one in America should live in poverty".

                                                                WTF is that? That smacks of communism and made me shiver. He's talking about making those who make $$$ pay for those that don't. I feel sorry for the "underpriviledged", but alot of us have worked hard to get places. My resume is a mile deep with trials and tribulations. Now I have to pay for someone else?

                                                                Tax and spend

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                                                                • kane
                                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                  • Aug 2001
                                                                  • 20684

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by Tom_PM
                                                                  Crazy.. If people "dont watch", then why will it matter what the republicans do in NY?

                                                                  Also, the polls are of likely voters. if you think this year that the same people who voted last year are all who're going to vote this year, I dont think you see how disenfranchised people are..

                                                                  Also, 3 days before regan trounced carter, the polls showed them within 3 points of each other. Useless. Last election the EXIT polls were wrong. Useless.
                                                                  polls can be useless. This election is going to come down to about 13 states where they are either even or within a couple of points of each other. If one of them wins 10 of those 13 states it will be a landslide win. While I hope Kerry wins I really hope that whoever wins also wins the popular vote.

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                                                                  • hottoddy
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                                                                    • Oct 2002
                                                                    • 3049

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by KRL
                                                                    The bottom line is Iraq should have been taken out with the full military support of all our allies.

                                                                    Instead Bush and his cronies alienated everyone and we had to do it all our selves.

                                                                    900 of our precious young Americans got killed and thousands more injured and maimed when they didn't have to if we had a more balanced international force going in.
                                                                    Sure, but that's just "pie in the sky" wishful thinking. 12 rejected UN ultimatums, yet most nations had nothing to back up their words. A totally united allied coalition just wasn't going to happen
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                                                                    • pussyluver
                                                                      Clueless OleMan
                                                                      • Mar 2003
                                                                      • 11009

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by Centurion
                                                                      Ah..the folks that live in the alternate universes!
                                                                      And as for the polls, they're not releasing or doing any polls until the convention is OVER!
                                                                      Are you not listening to the pundants and their comments on what the talk is around the nation and what this will do to the major polls.

                                                                      Back to my alternate universe then.

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                                                                      • kane
                                                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                        • Aug 2001
                                                                        • 20684

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by boobmaster
                                                                        The religious right VOTES, which is why the republican party caters to it. For all the bitching that goes on about the views of the extreme religious right, one thing is for certain: they vote in greater percentages than do most other groups. If we adult webmasters voted as much, the parties would listen more to us.

                                                                        If you don't vote in November, you have NO FUCKING RIGHT TO BITCH, PERIOD!
                                                                        true. This is why Kerry is going hard after the young people. Clinton went after the young people and connected with them and he destoryed bush sr and a big part of it was the votes of the 18-25 group.

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                                                                        • Centurion
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                                                                          • Dec 2002
                                                                          • 6033

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by pussyluver
                                                                          Are you not listening to the pundants and their comments on what the talk is around the nation and what this will do to the major polls.

                                                                          Back to my alternate universe then.
                                                                          Pundits? You must be referring to Fox News and O'Reilly.
                                                                          Now there's one impartial group! NOT!

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                                                                          • BlingDaddy
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                                                                            • Apr 2004
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                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by KRL
                                                                            The bottom line is Iraq should have been taken out with the full military support of all our allies.

                                                                            Instead Bush and his cronies alienated everyone and we had to do it all our selves.

                                                                            900 of our precious young Americans got killed and thousands more injured and maimed when they didn't have to if we had a more balanced international force going in.
                                                                            KRL... first, I totally respect you. And a logical debate here is a rareity!

                                                                            KRL, 3200 of OUR precious moms, dads, and friends were killed in one swoop in an attack on 9-11 that not only killed Americans, totalled some of the most beautifiul buildings on the planet, and left thousands of children with one or NO parents.

                                                                            Okay, so we go at it alone (which isnt true... it's a multinational force) So what? I revere our fallen soldiers with the utmost respect. I am a vet (D Storm 1) and I full well knew I could get killed. I have a friend who deploys to Iraq tomorrow... we said goodbye to him on Sunday when he flew to Pendleton. He knows....... he may not come back. BUT.... he knows if for some reason he doesnt... it was for OUR freedom.

                                                                            Our military are not "conscripts" they fight because they believe in the American idea of freedom. And Saddam Hussein, kept that freedom from his people, and THREATENED the US by providing an environment that was "pro-terror". Just ask the 15,000 dead kurds who were killed by their own leader.
                                                                            I'll shut up now.
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                                                                            • boobmaster
                                                                              So Fucking Banned
                                                                              • Jul 2003
                                                                              • 6185

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by clickhappy
                                                                              I dont really care about Bush or Kerry.

                                                                              Im just voting for Kerry to get "you-know-who" out of there and leave porn alone.

                                                                              And I hate that "now watch this drive" line. that arrogance pissed me off.
                                                                              That's a bad reason on which to vote! There is no guarentee that the dems wouldn't fuck us over as much. It would have been worse if Gore had won in 2000. His wife would have made us a cause.

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                                                                              • PenisFace
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                                                                                • Oct 2003
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                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by BlingDaddy
                                                                                KRL... first, I totally respect you. And a logical debate here is a rareity!

                                                                                KRL, 3200 of OUR precious moms, dads, and friends were killed in one swoop in an attack on 9-11 that not only killed Americans, totalled some of the most beautifiul buildings on the planet, and left thousands of children with one or NO parents.

                                                                                Okay, so we go at it alone (which isnt true... it's a multinational force) So what? I revere our fallen soldiers with the utmost respect. I am a vet (D Storm 1) and I full well knew I could get killed. I have a friend who deploys to Iraq tomorrow... we said goodbye to him on Sunday when he flew to Pendleton. He knows....... he may not come back. BUT.... he knows if for some reason he doesnt... it was for OUR freedom.

                                                                                Our military are not "conscripts" they fight because they believe in the American idea of freedom. And Saddam Hussein, kept that freedom from his people, and THREATENED the US by providing an environment that was "pro-terror". Just ask the 15,000 dead kurds who were killed by their own leader.
                                                                                I'll shut up now.

                                                                                God you suck sometimes... Iraq had nothing to do with september 11th.
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                                                                                • Snake Doctor
                                                                                  I'm Lenny2 Bitch
                                                                                  • Mar 2001
                                                                                  • 13449

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by BlingDaddy
                                                                                  Lenny, my line about "natural selection" is right on the mark, and displays no ignorance. Have you been to Nigeria? I have... Have you been the the Dominican Republic? I Have...

                                                                                  Our "poverty" livers look like fucking Bill Gates compared to some of these people. This isn't about "knights and serfs". We live in a democracy, not a monarchy.

                                                                                  If you want to save everyone, and put everyone on equal footing go ahead. Welcome to Stalin ..... That worked well didn't it!

                                                                                  Putting everyone on equal footing is what America has been about since the beginning.
                                                                                  This is the one place in the world where your destiny is dependent on what you do and not on who your father is.

                                                                                  What Edwards said EXACTLY was "No one who WORKS FULL TIME should live in poverty", not that noone should live in poverty.
                                                                                  His remark was in reference to raising the minimum wage, which is sorely needed.
                                                                                  The buying power of the minimum wage has declined 25% over the last 20 years......in 1968 the minimum wage was worth $6.92 in 1998 dollars....today in 2004 the minimum wage is $5.15.

                                                                                  The other part of his argument was that any kid should be able to attend college regardless of how much money his parents have.
                                                                                  That's necessary for 2 reasons, one because its morally right and two, because educating our workforce is necessary in order for us to compete in the global economy of the future. Doing this helps EVERYONE, including the rich people.
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                                                                                  • crockett
                                                                                    in a van by the river
                                                                                    • May 2003
                                                                                    • 76818

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by BlingDaddy
                                                                                    Lenny, my line about "natural selection" is right on the mark, and displays no ignorance. Have you been to Nigeria? I have... Have you been the the Dominican Republic? I Have...

                                                                                    Our "poverty" livers look like fucking Bill Gates compared to some of these people. This isn't about "knights and serfs". We live in a democracy, not a monarchy.

                                                                                    If you want to save everyone, and put everyone on equal footing go ahead. Welcome to Stalin ..... That worked well didn't it!

                                                                                    Bigdaddy, you don't have to have socialism to have public health care and have decent paying jobs for the average person. We are the only remaining super power in this world you would think we could atleast take care of our own people's basic needs.

                                                                                    No one in this country should be denied heathcare because they can't afford it. We don't live in Nigeria or the Dominican Republic we live in America. I'm also glad it seems this new Admin want's to stop giving tax breaks to companies that outsource their work and instead give the cuts to compaines that stay in America.
                                                                                    In November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator.

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                                                                                    • boobmaster
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                                                                                      • Jul 2003
                                                                                      • 6185

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by kane
                                                                                      true. This is why Kerry is going hard after the young people. Clinton went after the young people and connected with them and he destoryed bush sr and a big part of it was the votes of the 18-25 group.
                                                                                      Being popular with young voters and actually getting the out to the polls are two VERY DIFFERENT things. The voting record of the young in this country is truly pathetic. It doesn't matter how well you do with that age group if none of them bothering voting.

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                                                                                      • DaLord
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                                                                                        • Aug 2001
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                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by KRL
                                                                                        The bottom line is Iraq should have been taken out with the full military support of all our allies.

                                                                                        Instead Bush and his cronies alienated everyone and we had to do it all our selves.

                                                                                        900 of our precious young Americans got killed and thousands more injured and maimed when they didn't have to if we had a more balanced international force going in.
                                                                                        I always enjoy your serious posts. You know your shit


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                                                                                        • Centurion
                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                          • Dec 2002
                                                                                          • 6033

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by BlingDaddy

                                                                                          KRL, 3200 of OUR precious moms, dads, and friends were killed in one swoop in an attack on 9-11 that not only killed Americans, totalled some of the most beautifiul buildings on the planet, and left thousands of children with one or NO parents.

                                                                                          Okay, so we go at it alone (which isnt true... it's a multinational force) So what? I revere our fallen soldiers with the utmost respect.
                                                                                          And again, the Right Wing RUNS to 9/11 and in the same breath start talking about how "right" it is to have gone into Iraq.
                                                                                          You may have gotten away with stringing that together with insinuation before, but the American people are FINALLY waking up and realizing there IS NO TIE to 9/11 & Iraq!

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                                                                                          • Snake Doctor
                                                                                            I'm Lenny2 Bitch
                                                                                            • Mar 2001
                                                                                            • 13449

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Originally posted by boobmaster
                                                                                            Being popular with young voters and actually getting the out to the polls are two VERY DIFFERENT things. The voting record of the young in this country is truly pathetic. It doesn't matter how well you do with that age group if none of them bothering voting.
                                                                                            An interesting line I saw on the news the other night was "If you want to get young people to vote, start a draft"

                                                                                            ALOT of young people, college students especially are afraid that there will be a draft in the future if the Iraq mess doesn't get cleaned up, so we will most probably see a surge in 18-25 year olds voting this election.
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                                                                                            • BlingDaddy
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                                                                                              • Apr 2004
                                                                                              • 6343

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Originally posted by Lenny2
                                                                                              Putting everyone on equal footing is what America has been about since the beginning.
                                                                                              This is the one place in the world where your destiny is dependent on what you do and not on who your father is.

                                                                                              What Edwards said EXACTLY was "No one who WORKS FULL TIME should live in poverty", not that noone should live in poverty.
                                                                                              His remark was in reference to raising the minimum wage, which is sorely needed.
                                                                                              The buying power of the minimum wage has declined 25% over the last 20 years......in 1968 the minimum wage was worth $6.92 in 1998 dollars....today in 2004 the minimum wage is $5.15.

                                                                                              The other part of his argument was that any kid should be able to attend college regardless of how much money his parents have.
                                                                                              That's necessary for 2 reasons, one because its morally right and two, because educating our workforce is necessary in order for us to compete in the global economy of the future. Doing this helps EVERYONE, including the rich people.
                                                                                              Lenny....

                                                                                              I'm not sure where you are at, but here the "minimum wage" is significantly greater than $5.15p/h Here's a hint.... GET A DIFFERENT FUCKING JOB.

                                                                                              Under your program EVERYONE would go to Yale to get an education. Guess what? I don't have a degree and have never needed one! I've got a 400k crib in CO that proves it. And I thank God that the US Military, showed me how to work hard.

                                                                                              Every kid has the RIGHT to go to college, by performing, and getting scholarships, and by being SMART. Your idea totally smacks of communism, where all are SCHOOLED because it's morally right (under the government)..... There are 13 jazillion ways to go to college. The right to attend is NOT the right to pay... I've got enough on my "Enfamil" tab with one. If he goes, fine... if not, he'll still be okay, because he'll know how to be a performer.

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                                                                                              • boobmaster
                                                                                                So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                • Jul 2003
                                                                                                • 6185

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Originally posted by Lenny2
                                                                                                An interesting line I saw on the news the other night was "If you want to get young people to vote, start a draft"

                                                                                                ALOT of young people, college students especially are afraid that there will be a draft in the future if the Iraq mess doesn't get cleaned up, so we will most probably see a surge in 18-25 year olds voting this election.
                                                                                                If anything could get them to the polls, one would think something like that would. Sadly, however, even the draft will only have a minimal effect on the voting % for that group. The young just seem to be apathetic.

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                                                                                                • Tom_PMs
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                                                                                                  • Jun 2004
                                                                                                  • 2049

                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  Yeah, now the republicans seem like they're going back to 1988 or so to justify going into Iraq.. Lame. Sorry, but extremely lame. Whats next, going back to when Sadam took power and had potential rivals executed on the spot? It happened too. But Iraq STILL had ZERO to do with 9/11.

                                                                                                  Clearly some people wont vote anything but party line even if they're leaders are doomed to fail. *shrug*

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                                                                                                  • jwerd
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                                                                                                    • Jun 2003
                                                                                                    • 1953

                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Originally posted by herbal logic
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