Proxy Detectors...

[xApster]

What are my options for a proxy detector right now to scan thru trades on a tgp... ?

I have around 800k that would go thro it daily so it would have to be stable with a lot of traffic.

Thanks

xApster

[Due]

I wouldn't use anything that is running on my own server then.
Check out www.proxyguard.com
I use them are pretty satisfied with the results

[xApster]

18 grand yearly fee + 900 a month .. think i will give that a pass lol

[nemesis]

hey due, how many percent of proxy hits should be considered as a cheater? I have some people sending me over %35 percent proxy hits, should i consider that they are hitboting?


(sorry for interrupting the thread)

[NetRodent]

One place to start is to log the "HTTP_X_FORWARDED_FOR" header in your apache logs. This will show you all the non-anonymous proxy hits coming to you, and where they are
coming from.

[X37375787]

Hit up Lane, he might have something for ya

[zubr]

i think the max should be about 5%...

[pipp]

Originally posted by nemesis
hey due, how many percent of proxy hits should be considered as a cheater? I have some people sending me over %35 percent proxy hits, should i consider that they are hitboting?

My guess is that you are. How many porn wankers do you think knows how to set a proxy in their browser? Maby less then 1% is my guess

[beemk]

pipp: also most people that run proxys are people who are at school or work, and they usually dont browse porn in that case. check the times and see if theres a big time difference like after 5pm or whatever. 35% does seem way too high though.

[kmanrox]

the new UCJ combats proxies i think

[RaGe]

Originally posted by zubr
i think the max should be about 5%...

No way, according to ePower trader, ALL of my trades are between 10% and 20%..

[Due]

Originally posted by xApster
18 grand yearly fee + 900 a month .. think i will give that a pass lol

No that is the 2 different payment options they have. Either pay yearly or monthly. Not both :D
You should give their free week a try
nemesis>
Yes that is very high.
Usually in TM3 I see upto around 15% for all proxies (including AOL etc. etc) while on proxyguard anything higher than 5% then there is something wrong (it does not count AOL etc) but count open proxies both anom. and none anom. proxies. And show the % also for both

[PxG]

nemesis:
The baseline Abusable Proxy % that we see sits right around 2% for 'normal' browser traffic. We base this figure off hundreds of millions of hits.

RaGe:
10-20% may mean that people down the line are cheating you. Or in other words, those trading with you are being cheated by one or more of their trading partners, and the traffic gets passed to you. In turn you end up with a fairly high baseline %-age, but either way its fraud traffic.


xApster :

the 18K/year license is for stand-alone systems for people pushing over 750,000 hits/day and comes with customized hardware.

Non-Enterprise pricing starts @ $94.95/month.



Please feel free to contact me on the boards or email with Qs!
PxG
[email protected]

[Pipecrew]

Originally posted by PxG
nemesis:
The baseline Abusable Proxy % that we see sits right around 2% for 'normal' browser traffic. We base this figure off hundreds of millions of hits.

RaGe:
10-20% may mean that people down the line are cheating you. Or in other words, those trading with you are being cheated by one or more of their trading partners, and the traffic gets passed to you. In turn you end up with a fairly high baseline %-age, but either way its fraud traffic.


xApster :

the 18K/year license is for stand-alone systems for people pushing over 750,000 hits/day and comes with customized hardware.

Non-Enterprise pricing starts @ $94.95/month.



Please feel free to contact me on the boards or email with Qs!
PxG
[email protected]

Not Worth 18k Xapster, Besides you owe me that much anyways haha

[PxG]

may be able to get you in at the 449.95/m level if you're pushing 800K hits a day!

Hit me up on icq if you like!

icq: 153529369

[Pipecrew]

Originally posted by PxG
may be able to get you in at the 449.95/m level if you're pushing 800K hits a day!

Hit me up on icq if you like!

icq: 153529369

I bet He would take it if it was 100 a month........ Do you have any idea who he is? He's an industry leader and one hell of an employee, damn I cant find that picture of him dancing in his underwear with that old man!

[PxG]

Its actually the next pricing bracket down. .....

Take a quick read, big guy!

http://proxyguard.com/proxyguard.php?page=pricing






Laszlo

[pr0]

Originally posted by PxG
may be able to get you in at the 449.95/m level if you're pushing 800K hits a day!

Hit me up on icq if you like!

icq: 153529369

Yea or they could just modify an open source IRC open proxy checker & bypass spending such an outrageous amount of money.

You should be ashamed of yourself with those prices.

[Pipecrew]

Originally posted by pr0


Yea or they could just modify an open source IRC open proxy checker & bypass spending such an outrageous amount of money.

You should be ashamed of yourself with those prices.

come on now! who doesnt wanna spend 18000 on this guys whole 25 minutes of work! hahaha....... I am getting Mike503 to make something bigger and better for 180 times less

[pr0]

Honestly i like the concept. But what you charge is just plain ignorant.

[kmanrox]

yes, the new UCJ http://www.adultwebmasterinfo.com has proxy detection in it

pay the 100$ for the upgrade to see if you're getting fuct!

K-Man Approved!

[pr0]

Originally posted by Pipecrew


come on now! who doesnt wanna spend 18000 on this guys whole 25 minutes of work! hahaha....... I am getting Mike503 to make something bigger and better for 180 times less

right on, letme know if you guys need any input....

[PxG]

Pipecrew,
Again, its not a 'guy', its a company. We spent a long time putting together this solution and have a lot of customers (like Due, ABCsearch, Cyberheat, CrazyProtocol, etc) who would back us up on the quality of the product.

Again, 18K is for an enterprise client doing millions of hits a day--where we need to deploy a customized hardware solution, ie. we pay for a custom server....

Most of our clients fall in the 98.95/m to 174.95/m range.....


Pipecrew, you've talked a lot here, so why dont you back it up?

Try our service for a week for FREE.......then come back and say whatever you want about it.,......this offer goes for any other webmaster who wants to try us out!

Otherwise, don't slam us, because you look ignorant....everyone who has tried the product has liked the results.






Laszlo

[Rocco]

PXG

Can you tell me which big TGP use your service and if I can expect an increase in number of my hits?

Rocco

[Pipecrew]

I have UCJ with proxy protection, thanks anyways, I like hitbotters, they bookmark me

[pr0]

I don't think anyones bashing your product...just your prices. But i'm quite sure you offer a valuable service that many people have a use for...& thats capatalism...so do what you'd like.

[Mr.Fiction]

Originally posted by Pipecrew

come on now! who doesnt wanna spend 18000 on this guys whole 25 minutes of work! hahaha....... I am getting Mike503 to make something bigger and better for 180 times less

Let's hear from Mike503 on this. How much would he charge to fix this proxy problem? Make a bid, Mike!

[pr0]

Mike & many more people like him will have a chance to showcase their proxy & other security solutions on my new site late this august

Stay tuned......

[Rocco]

Humm no answer again...I would like to see which big TGP use this service...Honestly I don't think that 1 big webmaster would like to pay this ammount...

Rocco

[PxG]

Rocco,
Sorry for the late response , just got in!
No, we have a lot of traders and a lot of PPC guys (adult and non-adult) but no TGPs ....

As for traffic going up or down:
Your traffic gets cleaner and in the end that means that the bad trades will eventually be out and the quality and quantity of traffic should go up--in the Long run--



Best regards,
L

[boneprone]

If you guys really think these proxy detectors protect you from hitbotters you got something coming.

The good hitbots, and the expensive ones dont send traffic from a proxy that can be detected.

There are ways to detect these, but a "proxy detector"
is nothing but a false sense of security.

Some of you are probably being considered to have a trade set up by such a botter. Exposing your ignorance is not a good thing.

Nor is depending on any proxy detector.

Only the Poor Soviets, and South Americans use the old school proxy detecting hit bots.

[TFCash]

Originally posted by PxG
we have a lot of traders and a lot of PPC guys (adult and non-adult) but no TGPs ....

I can understand why a PPC guy would want to pay that price to protect himself, but a TGP with the same number of hits makes nowhere near what the PPC does Maybe you need to have a different level of service for TGP's, otherwise I don't see you picking up a lot of them in the near future as clients


Tim

[PxG]

Tim, perhaps....This may be a good idea. If you know of TGPs who are interested, but not at this price, contact me, we may be able to work something with them. --Due uses TGP...contact him for a recko (see below quote from this thread)
"Due--I wouldn't use anything that is running on my own server then. Check out www.proxyguard.com I use them are pretty satisfied with the results "

Boneprone:
We disagree. This is not a childs script. We will catch/detect ALL CHEATERS using proxies going against PPC, traffic trading, etc.....Lets put this to a test. Prove what you are saying... send hits to us that we can't detect, we can set up a demo for FREE and will display the results on this thread. But send at least 5,000 hits, otherwise its not worth anyone's time.....

.........otherwise don't slam our products!



Laszlo

[boneprone]

hmmmm.
Perhaps youve never heard of the Jesus Hitbot?

V 4.02 is out and taking the net by storm.

Would you like to challenge Our Jesus Products?

[Steve]

newest version of UCJ detects proxies - well worth a $100 upgrade

also, TM3 detects hitbots, and has tons of anti-prxy/hitbot features

can't go wrong with either script

boneprone - where you been? hit me on ICQ

[PxG]

BRING IT!



Laszlo

[PxG]

BRING IT!



Laszlo