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  • M_M
    Confirmed User
    • May 2004
    • 1167

    #1

    Abortion debate question

    Most people that are against abortion say they are NOT against it if the girl was raped.

    So first you say abortion stops a beating heart and that its murder. And then you say if an 18 yo. girl gets pregnant because of rape, you are allowed to kill the baby, who is not even guilty.

    So its ok to kill a baby just because the mother didn't want a baby?

    I don't understand the logic here.
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  • The Truth Hurts
    Zph7YXfjMhg
    • Nov 2002
    • 15732

    #2
    women who choose to fuck should live with the consequences.

    rape victims have no choice in getting fucked, and shouldn't have to live with the consequences.

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    • uvort
      Confirmed User
      • Mar 2003
      • 3580

      #3
      abortions are a tricky matter, people like to fuck around with it... funny thing is that bush is against it, but i bet that if his daugheter got raped by some gang member or something like that, he would get it aborted... most people are like that, they dont know what the want,

      im for abortions, why get involved in someone else life and tell them what they can and cant to.... land of the fuckin free eh?
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      • The Truth Hurts
        Zph7YXfjMhg
        • Nov 2002
        • 15732

        #4
        Originally posted by uvort
        why get involved in someone else life and tell them what they can and cant to....

        a whole shitload of aborted babies just called and said: Hey what the fuck?!!?!??!

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        • Fabuleux
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          • May 2003
          • 2543

          #5
          I'm for abortion too, you can always get pregnant accidentally and if you think you are too young or not ready or whatever you should choose what is best for the child?s future.

          36 cells don?t make a human being. It's just stupid to think so. How many get killed when you rub one out lol.

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          • M_M
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            • May 2004
            • 1167

            #6
            Originally posted by The Truth Hurts
            women who choose to fuck should live with the consequences.

            rape victims have no choice in getting fucked, and shouldn't have to live with the consequences.
            i thought anti-abortion considered a baby a "life" rather than a "consequence".

            a baby from a consented sex and from rape are not any different are they? how is killing one murder the other isnt?
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            • Syl
              Confirmed User
              • Dec 2003
              • 1953

              #7
              Originally posted by The Truth Hurts
              women who choose to fuck should live with the consequences.

              I somewhat agree. But oh how easy it is for men to not have to live with the consequences and escape the responsibilities of their actions that helped create the child. Pro choice.
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              • cluck
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                • Dec 2002
                • 5248

                #8
                Most people who have abortions aren't fit to raise a kid anyway. Better off "killing" an unborn fetus than have another dead end kid raised by a shitty single mother.
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                • The Truth Hurts
                  Zph7YXfjMhg
                  • Nov 2002
                  • 15732

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Fabuleux
                  36 cells don?t make a human being.
                  I love it when you morons presume to know at what point a human is a human.

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                  • woodman
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                    • Jan 2003
                    • 433

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Fabuleux
                    I'm for abortion too, you can always get pregnant accidentally and if you think you are too young or not ready or whatever you should choose what is best for the child?s future.

                    And murdering the child is really best for its future?

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                    • cluck
                      Confirmed User
                      • Dec 2002
                      • 5248

                      #11
                      Originally posted by The Truth Hurts
                      I love it when you morons presume to know at what point a human is a human.
                      Does it have a brain yet? Feel pain? Is it able to even have a will to live?
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                      • M_M
                        Confirmed User
                        • May 2004
                        • 1167

                        #12
                        oh i get it...

                        here is some peoples logic:

                        someone gets pregnant because of fucking around, she should have the baby as a "punishment".. as its not a punishment to that child to be burn to a slut single mother.

                        on the other hand, rape victim should not be "punished" with a baby since it wasnt her fault.



                        now, where does "abortion=murder" come in here?
                        if you're anti-abortion and think abortion is not always murder, thats even more of a fucked up logic.
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                        • woodman
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                          • Jan 2003
                          • 433

                          #13
                          Originally posted by cluck
                          Most people who have abortions aren't fit to raise a kid anyway. Better off "killing" an unborn fetus than have another dead end kid raised by a shitty single mother.

                          They are plenty of people who have made incredible contributions to society that were raised by shitty parents.

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                          • Syl
                            Confirmed User
                            • Dec 2003
                            • 1953

                            #14
                            Originally posted by M_M
                            oh i get it...

                            here is some peoples logic:

                            someone gets pregnant because of fucking around, she should have the baby as a "punishment".. as its not a punishment to that child to be burn to a slut single mother.
                            .
                            An unplanned or unwanted pregnancy concludes the mother is a slut?? How so?
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                            • The Truth Hurts
                              Zph7YXfjMhg
                              • Nov 2002
                              • 15732

                              #15
                              Originally posted by M_M

                              now, where does "abortion=murder" come in here?
                              if you're anti-abortion and think abortion is not always murder, thats even more of a fucked up logic.
                              this country is built and operated on faulty logic.

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                              • iFliPcEss
                                Registered User
                                • Dec 2003
                                • 3087

                                #16
                                I am against abortion! but if it would caused the health of the mother then maybe I will agree to abort the baby however on RAPE issue, i don't think it is necessary to kill the baby, for GOD sake that angel is innocent she/he doesn't even want to brought up in this world if the mom doesn't want to see the baby then she can give it to someone else after she gave birth rite?.Just give the baby the right to live.

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                                • uvort
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Mar 2003
                                  • 3580

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by The Truth Hurts
                                  a whole shitload of aborted babies just called and said: Hey what the fuck?!!?!??!

                                  give me the numbers they called from, and ill make sure to get back to all of them to let them know what the fuck
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                                  • uvort
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                                    • Mar 2003
                                    • 3580

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by iFliPcEss
                                    I am against abortion! but if it would caused the health of the mother then maybe I will agree to abort the baby however on RAPE issue

                                    well, are you against it or for it?
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                                    • Lucy
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                                      • Mar 2004
                                      • 3969

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by woodman
                                      And murdering the child is really best for its future?
                                      I totally agree with woodman, because how the baby can be happy if parents weren't ready for them ( they were young, accidentaly, raped...). I want have a baby when I'll feel that I am ready, give to baby everything what I can, learn, take care of the baby and not realized how many people (who had babies soon), that it wasn't right time, don't take care of the babies, giving them for adoption....... do you think that this is right? I don't think so.....

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                                      • cluck
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                                        • Dec 2002
                                        • 5248

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by The Truth Hurts
                                        this country is built and operated on faulty logic.


                                        That's the best explaination for pretty much any debate that goes on around here.
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                                        • Lucy
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                                          • Mar 2004
                                          • 3969

                                          #21
                                          sorry, I ment that I agree with Fabuleux, not with Woodman.
                                          Just want make it right...............

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                                          • MakeMeGrrrrowl
                                            Grrrrrrrrr
                                            • Oct 2002
                                            • 4986

                                            #22
                                            There is nothing wrong with abortion provided it's not used as a form of birth control.

                                            The problem mostly is parents not educating their young children and then they in turn have no choice BUT to use it as a form of birth control (or raise a child they're unprepared to raise) because their parents were too close-minded to discuss their options BEFORE it happened.

                                            Most who do stick with it, end up single mom's because...well, we know how men are.

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