Newbies PLS READ !!!

[-=HUNGRYMAN=-]

Tam ...

I could not have said this any better myself ... Hats off to ya !!

**Reposted from the AWI webmaster boards**

quote: Originally posted by TennisAce:
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You guys might still think once a Cheater always a Cheater but I am determined to get better and prove myself.
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You think a few tutorials are going to teach you to tell the truth and to be HONEST? GOD!!!!!! You need more help than even I thought you needed. Tutorials aren't going to teach you these things......... what you SHOULD have donei n the first damn place was listen to those of us who tried to help you and you wouldn't be in the prdicament you are in right now. Even AFTER you screwed up the first time, I spent hour after hour trying to show you the errors of you ways and what people expected but you didn't listen to me. Not that I am some higher being, I am not........ but I DO know what is needed for people to trust you and you simply wouldn't listen to me.

You came to me whining about Hungryman not liking you anymore but never gave me the whole story, but STILL, I told you that you fucked up and told you that in order to fix this that you would need to be honest at ALL costs and make yourself better and show people you CAN be trusted but that you fucked up....... so what do YOU do? You go and change your nickname trying to fuck people all over again......... I can put up with alot and I tolerate alot, but what I can't even think of putting up with is busting my ass to help someone clean up a mess they made only to have them turn right around and do the exact same shit AGAIN....... and to me of all people, and Hungryman. The BOTH of us went way out on a limb to help you and you bit us in the face yet again........

The worst part about this? I have even tried to talk to you on icq since this LAST fuckup trying to help you see where you screwed up and you talked to me, and I swear to god, had no remorse or anything about any of it........ you just act like it's everyone elses problem and the only thing YOU did bad was get caught....... in ALL of this, the ONLY thing you are even concerned with is that you "GOT CAUGHT"........ PLEASE!!!!!

I honestly felt bad for you until a couple of days ago on our last conversation on icq, you just have no remorse for ANYTHING> I, as well as almost everyone I am associated with, can handle someone making mistakes, good grief, we all do that, but to come back, showing NO remorse and doing it all over again? And STILL I tried to show you where you were screwing up, and you STILL don't get it?

GOD I am so done with this....... YOU are what make people paranoid about helping new webmasters, YOU are the epitome of what makes us all weary of assisting ANYONE that is trying to make a name for themselves in this Industry........

BUT You have provided a good learning experience, next newbie that comes to me will get links to all threads concerning YOU as to what NOT to do to be successful....... thanks for the help you have given those of us who try and help new people use as tools to help other "SERIOUS and HONEST" new webmasters.

I ALWAYS try to find something good in a situation and I think I just found it..

"How NOT to be successful as an adult webmaster"

Tam

I think ALL newbies can learn ALOT by using TennisAce as a Case Study.

[Trax]

lol

[theWatsonian]

Cross Hungryman and you will never forget it.

[-=HUNGRYMAN=-]

Originally posted by theWatsonian
Cross Hungryman and you will never forget it.

Ya know Wat .... it's not even that ...
I devote about 12-15 hours a week helping out newbies ... I get ICQ requests like no tomorrow (my list of 751 contacts proves it too !!! LOL). I do it because that is just the well natured person I am ... I beleive that helping newbies will benefit me in the long run, because you know what ?? Eventually these newbies are looking for sponsors ....

When somebody takes advantage of you because of your good nature ... (and not ONCE, but TWICE ...) it really steams you ...

Like Tam said ... this guy is so UN-REMORSEFUL it is pathetic ...

I think if even ONE person can learn something from this jackass' behavior, then it's all good !

[Forkbeard]

How come this thread isn't entitled "Newbie Cheaters pls READ!!!"?

Foo. I'm a fuckin' newbie, but this thread still wasted my time.

[Jakke PNG]

Originally posted by Forkbeard
How come this thread isn't entitled "Newbie Cheaters pls READ!!!"?

Foo. I'm a fuckin' newbie, but this thread still wasted my time.

Cheater!

[-=HUNGRYMAN=-]

Originally posted by Forkbeard
How come this thread isn't entitled "Newbie Cheaters pls READ!!!"?

Foo. I'm a fuckin' newbie, but this thread still wasted my time.

I am sorry to have wasted your time ... but I think there is a message here that EVEN NON-NEWBIES could learn something from ... but I am not going to center Brad out here ...

I never said or implied that ALL newbs are cheaters .... if that were the case, I'd have said FUCK YAS ALL a long time ago ...

All I am suggesting, is that ANYBODY thinking they can gain from dishonesty, you will eventually be sniffed out, and it may not be pretty ...

[theWatsonian]

I don't think this thread is a waste of time.
What I've learned:
TennisAce is incorrigible.
Hungryman is helpful.
Newbies are... Well, that's up to the individual newbie to decide.

[Anthony_Whitcon]

Damn.

As someone who helped Hungryman back when he started, this is very sad.

[GTS Mark]

Trust me Hungryman does spend a shitload of time helping other webmasters and I know I have been to his house and have seen his ICQ list (oh momma!)

I wonder sometimes how the guy ever has any time to do any work for himself.

Hungryman was the 1st adult webmaster that I ever met and he has been a good friend to me from day 1.

DH

He's also the only guy I know that will accept beer and chicken wings as payment for jobs! LOL!

[UnseenWorld]

When will people get it, that the keys to long term success are the same in any industry: hard work and honest dealings?

[-=HUNGRYMAN=-]

Originally posted by Anthony_Whitcon
Damn.

As someone who helped Hungryman back when he started, this is very sad.

Anthony .... what is your beef with me Bro ???

I made unwise choices when I began in this industry, including my stint as a woman .... but the difference here is that I did not blatently RIP OFF anybody ....

I think you (along with Ryan (nee Sweet))are still hurt that Brianna was not real ... If you have a beef with me Anthony, please lets straighten it out on ICQ ... not here.

I have NOTHING but respect for you ... and you know that.
I've asked you countless times to hit me up on ICQ (I thought even after i "came out" , we were still friends ??)

In my own defense ... Yes I have made some poor choices in the past ... I don't know many webmasters who've "been around the block" who haven't (right Anthony??) ...

The fact still remains, if you are a big fraud, and you get caught ... fess up to it and learn from your mistakes .... don't wait 3 months, assume that everybody has forgot about it, and then do the EXACT SAME FUCKING THING AGAIN !!!!


Oh yeah ... you know the 'Asian Schwarzenegger' comment was only a joke ... right ?!? If anything it was a compliment ... I wish I was HALF as buff as you are man !!!

[smack]

you guys have any links to any of tennisace's old posts i wanna read em.

[-=HUNGRYMAN=-]

Alright .... I AM OFFICIALLY FINISHED with anything to do with TennisAce !!

The flack I am catching from some PPL about me being a heartless bastard disturbs me ....

Anybody who has chatted with me ONE-ON-ONE either on ICQ, face to face, or on the phone should know that that is the furthest thing from the truth ... but yet I am being chastized ??

So I am 100% finished with this whole saga ... in 3 months time(maybe less, who knows...), when MR DANIEL KING-TURNER strikes again, ... I will be the guy sitting in the corner covering my mouth, (LMAO),and pointing at you(s) ...

Trust me ... he is far from finished.

-=HUNGRYDAMAS=- has predicted it.

[-=HUNGRYMAN=-]

Originally posted by smack
you guys have any links to any of tennisace's old posts i wanna read em.

I'd point you in the direction .... but I'd be accused of being a heartless fuck ... so somebody else will have to ...

/whisper try the search

[Nedder]

Do you think you guys could post any more historical catfighting without explaining with the fuck you are talking about?

Im sitting here trying to follow this thread from TennisAce being a cheater and then the next thing I know HM is a woman or a man and came out and blah blah.

Im so fucking confused.

Shit, I've been honest from day one. My question is, can someone fucking teach me how to cheat?!?!?

Nz

[buster]

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...threadid=52702

[SykkBoy]

Originally posted by -=HUNGRYMAN=-
.... but I'd be accused of being a heartless fuck

hey, you could be called worse...I've made more money since becoming a heartless fuck then when I was Mr. Friendly ;)))

[Nedder]

thanks buster

Nz (no longer confused)

[Forkbeard]

I am sorry to have wasted your time ... but I think there is a message here that EVEN NON-NEWBIES could learn something from

Upon careful rereading, I agree.

I never said or implied that ALL newbs are cheaters

I did take that meaning from your post. Howsomeever, at this point I'm way too drunk to say whether you implied it or whether I merely inferred it.

Rant on!

[-=HUNGRYMAN=-]

Originally posted by Anthony_Whitcon
Damn.

As someone who helped Hungryman back when he started, this is very sad.

OK ... I mistook what Anthony had said ... we chatted on ICQ and he was saying that this sutuation involving TennisAce was really sad ...


Anthony (Netpond) (ICQ#***39908) Wrote:
do me a favor, i can't do it till i get to the office. but post it was a misunderstanding between us. you can even quote my icq that i'm damn proud of you if you want.

Considering you were probably THE FIRST guy to help me in this business ... that means ALOT to me Anthony ....

[Tam]

This will also be my last post on this, I will be sitting with Hungry having a drink, and I ain't even a drinker, and laughing....... GOD!!!!! I am sick of this and have too much work to do to deal with him and trying to protect other people as well. I knew there had been something about me and this subject posted somewhere because he paged me out of the damn blue again. Here is what happened TODAY.... he has REAL damn remorse doesn't he?

TennisAce 3/15/200 3:55 AM hey u here?

Tam 3/15/200 6:21 AM what do you want?

TennisAce 3/15/200 2:07 PM I just want to say i understand how you are
upset and angry at me,
I am very very sad at this end, i am not
taking this laughing and just thinking to come
back and do it all again that is not true...
to tell you the truth my family is in alot of
trouble right now financially and well we have
to move to pay cheaper rent but that is not
your problem at all. it is tough times where i
am and i have FUCKED it up for me and them
even more.

Tam 3/15/200 2:09 PM ok so what is your point..... I have been
homeless with 3 kids and another on the way
but I never cheated anyone...... whine to
someone who gives a shit. I have put up with
all your crying I am going to. I have BEEN in
trouble but at NO time would or could I ever
cheat ANYONE

TennisAce 3/15/200 2:09 PM i understand you are angry and I dont expect
you to say oh ok then you are forgivin. i want
to earn my trust back but not untill i am good
enough..i am doing a webdesign course at
present to prove myself it cost $7000 so this
is all not a joke.
I am very sorry for what i have done and i
brought everything on myself i know that. But
dont bring yourself down with me you are a
good person i am sure no wanker will take
advantage of you like i did

TennisAce 3/15/200 2:10 PM yes i cheated ytou and it was FUCKEN wrong.

i am sorry that is all i can say at the
present.....

i am sorry for disturbing you....

SOrry one last time. SORRY

THIS last remark got me going again and I thought maybe I could head someone off at the pass so no one else gets bit as this is a HUGE sum of money here. So I tried to get more info on this person, and typical of TennisAce:

Tam 3/15/200 2:10 PM so you have a design you are doing now? May I
take a look at it to see how much improvement
you have made?

TennisAce 3/15/200 2:15 PM i am doing a WEBDESIGN course...

but i have made some stuff in it... ummm i
made a card for a business i will start up, a
fax head, letter head, with compliments sheet,
logo, tax invoice and receipt...

and i have made something out of photoshop
which i think is at the school computers...
umm i dont know what i can show you....



Tam 3/15/200 2:16 PM somehow I knew you'd say that, you never
do........... fuck this.........

GO AWAY

TennisAce 3/15/200 2:19 PM as soon as i make my webpage for it or
something i will show you....
oh i understand u dont believe me....
damn it....

ummm.... i will send you something as soon as
I make it and can show you i promise..
sorry

TennisAce 3/15/200 2:19 PM talkt o ulater

Tam 3/15/200 2:20 PM don't page me again, I am done with your lying
ass and You are on my ignore list, don't email
me, page me..... don't contact me at ALL

TennisAce 3/15/200 2:20 PM oh damn
bye

ALL Hungry and I have tried to do is to keep HONEST people from being screwed, as you can see here, he admits he screwed me and now he is off to his next victim. The pity me and my family is so poor thing is classic and how he gets people to give him work to do and sending him money, I know because I fell for this SAME DAMN LINE!!

NO way are all newbies cheat, I have seen so many excel, many bypassing me along the way...... but when you get a bad one they REALLY and truly stand out!! And after awhile you kind of get jaded to it all. I am basically a nobody, but what no one can say about me, I have never cheated anyone....... and therefore don't think I deserve to be cheated.

Tam

[-=HUNGRYMAN=-]

Hey Tam .... I got a bottle of Mezcal with our names on it ...

Get your famous ass over here and help me put a dent in it ...




3 hours later .....

[Anthony_Whitcon]

Originally posted by -=HUNGRYMAN=-


OK ... I mistook what Anthony had said ... we chatted on ICQ and he was saying that this sutuation involving TennisAce was really sad ...


Anthony (Netpond) (ICQ#***39908) Wrote:
do me a favor, i can't do it till i get to the office. but post it was a misunderstanding between us. you can even quote my icq that i'm damn proud of you if you want.

Considering you were probably THE FIRST guy to help me in this business ... that means ALOT to me Anthony ....

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You need to refresh your ICQ list dude! =o)

It's no longer Anthony (Netpond) anymore.