Prohosters Down again?

[amadman]

or is it just me.

[vegasdude]

i think the water4 is down or sumthin ...hehe thankz god the other serverz ain't down cuz my sitez load really nice

[amadman]

HeHe...

I dont know if that is good or bad news for me

Oh well... my center is not hosted there. Just some outer stuff.

[amadman]

just heard they had a 'major drive failure' and that it may be down for another 5 more hours

[sakamoto]

no, it's not just you.... shitty hosting

[evil_c]

if they keep on having downtime and keep on giving us credit on our months hosting bill(which i am expecting because of this downtime) how the FUCK are they gonna make any money???

[LiveDose]

$2/gig prepay and $2.50/gig overage, trust me they are making plenty...

LD

[Sjayne]

ugh..i like them, they are nice guys and when they are up they have always been excellent customer service wise.

But, yeah it is getting to be alot but I just can't even think of the nightmare of moving all my sites. Lost my backup discs and it would take me weeks to download everything and upload it again.

[AWC]

http://bb.4ph.com/

to check your prohoster's status...

[amadman]

new eta 6+ hours :o(

[sakamoto]

Still fucking down....

[chass]

Originally posted by amadman
new eta 6+ hours :o(

Yea...that was 10 hours ago and still down!

[Theo]

be smart, move to jesushosting.tk

[amadman]

[lawpal]

Now more than 40 hours down!

[sakamoto]

Topic is 'Welcome to ProHosters -- We are awaiting the new server now .... when it will be up is unknown right now'

this must be a fucking joke!

Someone at PH told me that our server, water, was a modified gameboy...

[FATPad]

Might as well prepare for a long delay. Last I heard it'll be 1 to 2 days until they get the new server(s) and get them installed.

[chachy]

That's terrible....I keep spare equipment for those emergencies.

[amadman]

I heard it was made with used spare parts from Commodore PET's and TRS-80's.

[Nedder]

Well they are flushing my life down the toilet, but thats my fault for staying with them thru last Decembers multiple outages.

I have alot of non-adult clients that I moved there so I could keep the hosting fees for myself, bad move as the phone's been ringing off the hook for the last 2 days and I've got no ETA in sight.

I was taking the whole thing in stride until I got their last fuckup email stating:

"Please bear with us during this downtime. You will be glad you did. "

Now come on, call a fuckup a fuckup but don't fucking tell me I should be glad I'm bearing with you through this mess. That's like anally raping someone and wiping the shit off on their forehead.

Nz

[amadman]

How many people will be left when this is fixed?

I have only been there a couple months. With only 3 very undeveloped domains and I still dread the Idea of moving them when things are back up.

So I realy feel for the people that have been with them for a long time and have many developed domains there.

[Houdini]

I have 3 non-adult domains that I've had hosted there for about 5 months now. This downtime isn't even worth their good customer service and support when they are up. As soon as it's back on, I'm switching to another host. These past 2 days that it's been down has lost me more money that my entire hosting would cost in a year. Screw that.

[lawpal]

Crash - 2:00AM on Friday March 1 2002

Current Time: 7:00PM Saturday March 2, 2002

problem remains unresolved - this sucks

[lawpal]

12:30 pm - prohosters still down

[theWatsonian]

If you can't see the button in my sig they are still down.

[Nurgle]

Just been in their IRC channel.. expected uptime, is sometime Monday...

Nurgle

[lawpal]

I don't know what to think.

Email below received 2/3/2002 9:53 p.m.:

Yes this has been a bad weekend for us. However there are things that need to be cleared up. Alot of rumors are flying around and there have been imposters imitating Prohosters staff saying things that are very untrue.

Here are the facts:

1. We are not closing down Virtual accounts. Much to the opposite we have been working very diligently to get water back up and running.
2. All data is lost. Again this is not true. Can there be some data loss? yes but very minimal and we are doing everything in our power to prevent even that.

We are and always have been committed to our customers. The boards can say what they want but the fact is water will be restored as promptly as we can.

The drives are running fsck now. On a 1tb (tera-byte) drive this is a lengthy process and thus the reason for the downtime.

More to follow.

Thanks,

Prohosters Support Team
Prohosters L.L.C.

[Sjayne]

Data loss won't seem minimal if it is your data.

[theWatsonian]

SNIP
The boards can say what they want but the fact is water will be restored as promptly as we can.
SNIP

I don't much care about the immediate downtime, the real question is how promptly can your traffic be restored?

[Nedder]

I want to hear directly from Prohosters regarding what steps they will take to keep this from EVER happening again.

Otherwise my exodus begins.

Nz

[pimpshost]

If you are looking for hosting, give us a call. We avoid these problems by running Dual 1 GHz machines with, (this is the key) Mirrored Hard Disks. Basically, that is a real time backup of your files in case a disk fails. We had a failure happen to us once and that is why we only deploy deploy Dual Disk Machines.

Anyways, for Sjayne, if you run your own server, we do file transfers for you, so you don't have to download and upload all your files. All we need is access to your machine and the Apache .conf file. You'd be off your current host before they even knew what happened.

Also, virtual accounts are $50 with 100 GB Transfer included and overages are $.50/GB. If you have a dedicated machine, it is no setup, $200/Mo and $.50/GB.

Check us out. Lots of references that we are saving money.

Jason
408-209-8949
858-456-7378
[email protected]
www.cologroup.com

[Wiredoctor]

PimpHost, 1 quick question for you. It seems you popped onto this board all of a suddn and are jumping into every hosting thread and spamming your host. OK so question is with the prices your saying I have to ask, whats your bandwidth supplier??...is it anything todo with Cogent ???

[amadman]

looks like the wolves are coming out!

[XP]

First they use congentco for bandwith

14 495 ms 493 ms 493 ms 64.124.11.181.cogentco.com [64.124.11.181]
15 491 ms 492 ms 493 ms p4-0.core01.sjc01.atlas.cogentco.com [66.28.4.94
]
16 506 ms 508 ms 507 ms p13-0.core01.lax01.atlas.cogentco.com [66.28.4.7
3]
17 512 ms 514 ms 517 ms p5-0.core01.san01.atlas.cogentco.com [66.28.4.78
]
18 512 ms 532 ms 510 ms g8.ba21.b006588-1.san01.atlas.cogentco.com [66.2
8.66.110]
19 511 ms 514 ms 511 ms 66.28.28.126
20 506 ms 508 ms 506 ms cologroup.com [209.126.182.40]


second,
Bandwidth is supplied by redundant providers
Bandwidth is billed on the 95th Percentile
99.99% Uptime Guarantee

I remember that 95th percentile was bullshit.

[theWatsonian]

The problem with hosts that come out of the woodwork when Prohosters has downtime is that they simply cannot offer what we are getting. I think the virtual accounts attract those of us running a score of free and avs sites, for the most part, and do very little tgp work (or keep our galleries on free hosts like I do).

These other hosts don't understand that we can make decent sales off a few thousands surfers a month but we need gobs of space, domains, static IP addresses, email accounts for each domain and reasonable prices for bandwidth overages.

Hosts that want to get my attention need to offer the following for less than 15 bucks per month:

* up to 50 static IPs right away, no monthly charge for additional IPs
* 500MB disk space
* 10 pop email accounts and a catchall for anything sent to other domains
* FTP 24/7, naturally
* Telnet, cgi, php, optional mysql
* Online realtime stats
And, most importantly, acting like a dick when a host has problems won't make me a customer.

Now, I haven't seen any other hosts that can meet these requirements. It's probably crazy to try. Who knows...

[FATPad]

Originally posted by theWatsonian
The problem with hosts that come out of the woodwork when Prohosters has downtime is that they simply cannot offer what we are getting.

I dunno. Great support, a million IP #'s, email catchalls, cgi, php, mySQL is hard enough, but I think the other hosts might have problems attaining that lofty 50% uptime goal.

Stupid mouse button...

[theWatsonian]

Originally posted by FATPad


I dunno. Great support, a million IP #'s, email catchalls, cgi, php, mySQL is hard enough, but I think the other hosts might have problems attaining that lofty 50% uptime goal.

Stupid mouse button...

Yeah, that's a tough one, apparently.

[Mango]

Originally posted by lawpal
...On a 1tb (tera-byte) drive this is a lengthy process and thus the reason for the downtime.

While I don't want to bash other hosts at all, it looks to me like they are technologically more advanced than the computer industry is...

[theWatsonian]

Originally posted by Mango


While I don't want to bash other hosts at all, it looks to me like they are technologically more advanced than the computer industry is...

Heh, yeah, I'm hoping they meant disk array.

[Mango]

Originally posted by theWatsonian


Heh, yeah, I'm hoping they meant disk array.

Well, that could be an explanation. However, an 1TB disk array for a webserver ?? Hell, let's connect an EMC² or Clariion to our servers ;)
Also, if it were a disk array, would one faulty drive cause a crash then ? Guess they would at least be mirrored...

[theWatsonian]

Considering all the shit that virtual accounts get for next to nothing, would you bother mirroring them?

[Chris R]

Originally posted by theWatsonian
The problem with hosts that come out of the woodwork when Prohosters has downtime is that they simply cannot offer what we are getting. I think the virtual accounts attract those of us running a score of free and avs sites, for the most part, and do very little tgp work (or keep our galleries on free hosts like I do).

These other hosts don't understand that we can make decent sales off a few thousands surfers a month but we need gobs of space, domains, static IP addresses, email accounts for each domain and reasonable prices for bandwidth overages.

Hosts that want to get my attention need to offer the following for less than 15 bucks per month:

* up to 50 static IPs right away, no monthly charge for additional IPs
* 500MB disk space
* 10 pop email accounts and a catchall for anything sent to other domains
* FTP 24/7, naturally
* Telnet, cgi, php, optional mysql
* Online realtime stats
And, most importantly, acting like a dick when a host has problems won't make me a customer.

Now, I haven't seen any other hosts that can meet these requirements. It's probably crazy to try. Who knows...

I couldn't say it better myself.
I don't mind paying $1 or so an IP. I don't mind paying even a few dollars for bandwidth, but other hosts just don't offer what they do - find someone else that offers 100 unique IPs for free, FREE cusomt name servers, SQL, SSI on html pages, and fast 24 hour support.

Unfortunately - they are down too often. Here is the closest match I have found for what I thik is reasonable. greenguy uses them:

https://secure130.allwebsites.com/de...ableprices.php

The say on the front page you can get extra IPs for $1.00 a month, but when I try to place an order it says $5.00 and they MUST BE PLACED AT THE TIME YOU ORDER. What is the deal with that? Anyway, I am starting to lose track of the hosts I am going through. I see the spam on here all the time, but almost no one addresses the specifics.

I was told by another host (that is mentioned on here all the time) that I could have all the unique IPS I wanted. I added a dozen or so sites with them and told a friend about them He said they told him he couldn't have unique IPs. I looked at the website and it had been changed - no more unique IPs - and worse yet - found that most of my sites were not on unique IPS - even though I was promised the would be. The then became so poor at figuring every thing out - that he had to drop them. I still have some sites there - as the have good uptime and good prices.

[Dualcpu]

Stick with the old reliable hosts, back in 1997/1998 there weren't as many hosts as now.

Everyone is opening their own hosts these days, I am not suprised this causes problems.

And no, I am not going to mention any reliable hosts ;-)

[sakamoto]

PROHOSTERS GO FUCK YOURSELF!

They have destroyed all my traffic trades... bastards!

[pimpshost]

Hello Wiredoctor, I have been up tonight on the message boards and I am offering help to people that ask for it. I did go and reply to all the threads with hosting questions or concerns, because that is what interests me. And I am definately not here to bash any companies or SPAM.

I just happened to be up late on a Saturday night and saw a few people are having problems with their hosting company. Some of them even asking for help or where to go. So I gave my advice. We offer great prices, we are reliable, we will help people move files from one account to another, we provide 24 hour customer support. If anyone needs help, send me an email: [email protected]

Here is the answer to yoru question:
Our providers are Level 3 and Cogent. We are on a multiple Gig-E backbone. Almost all of our traffic goes through Cogent and we use Level 3 as the backup. We host a lot of the freehosts out there on our backbone.

[Dualcpu]

Pimpshost,

So Cogent bandwidth is good?

We use UUNET, MCI WORLDCOM and IBM-NET ourselves and are very happy with them.

There is a big price difference between Cogent and others, there should be a reason for that?

[amadman]

Originally posted by pimpshost
Hello Wiredoctor, I have been up tonight on the message boards and I am offering help to people that ask for it. I did go and reply to all the threads with hosting questions or concerns, because that is what interests me.

The thread 'Hosting that meets my requirements'
May have been a good opening for you to spam your host.

But this tread is about the status/details of a host that is down.
Not people asking for a new host.

And I am definately not here to bash any companies or SPAM.

Yes you are.(see above)

...... Some of them even asking for help or where to go.

Not on this thread.

So I gave my advice.

Again...nobody asked for it here.

We offer great prices, we are reliable, we will help people move files from one account to another, we provide 24 hour customer support. If anyone needs help, send me an email: [email protected]

There it is again!

Looks like it! Smells like it! Taste like it!
Its Spam!

[Sjayne]

Well, I am on a virtual plan so I don't have my own server and it isn't a huge account either.

Just as theWatsonian said, I used prohosters for a bum load of free and AVS sites. I never used it for the TGP stuff I do..I used Oscer's host for that and never had any complaints. So, I don't use a huge amount of bandwith with them. I guess I am at about 20-30gb on that host. In addtion I use them because I have a lot of domains..both for adult and non adult projects and it is invaluable that I can just tell them to add a domain and they do and there isn't a charge.

See, until recently Prohosters were very reliable. Then they started having trouble a few months ago when they had that big outage. I mean, their own site is down so I doubt they are sitting around with their thumbs up their bums doing nothing. Also, in the past when I have needed help them have been right there to help me.

Yes, I am worried about my traffic. I am worried about the status of my AVS sites. If they get removed from the AVS systems I really dread having to go through and check to see if they are still there. Not to mention the Freenetpass premium sites that took ages to build and I had just started promoting.

I have been looking at some other hosts but I am going to give them until monday to be back up and to tell us what they are going to do to #1 make sure this doesn't happen again and #2 compensate. Especially as I just paid my bill.

[mariuz]

Pimps host = cologroup = hosting.fm
http://gofuckyourself.com/showthread...threadid=50731

If your such a good quality standup host..why change the name of your company?

[amadman]

Yeah I am pretty small and only use there smallest account.

I think the biggest pull of prohosters for me was the free ip/domains.

The other hosting company I use charges $10 a month per ip :o(

So prohosters seemed like a logical choice for starting new domains.

But it has really turned sour here lately.