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  • UnseenWorld
    Confirmed User
    • May 2001
    • 5279

    #1

    DownloadableContent.com Problem

    Dave Clark of Web-Legal is well-known as about an honest and straight-shooting a guy as you can find on the Web, so when he sends out a notice like this, I think everyone should read it, especially all the content providers in the bunch. Let me add that I (and Dave) are not yet making any specific charges here and there might be some rational explanation for what's going on here, though nothing comes to mind immediately:

    ***** Begin Quote *****

    Heylo!

    (blah, blah, blah)

    It was pointed out to me tonight by one of my publishers that their material was being licensed out on downloadablecontent.com . The problem was that they had no authorization to do this from the publisher. I've given a quick look at downloadablecontent.com, and we have found four products already that may be ripped off.. however, it will be up to the owners to decide.

    I'm asking everyone to go check out that site, and let me know if you find anything of yours that you did not give permission to be there. I want to try to figure out what all is happening here, and then we can plan a course of action once we know what is going on.

    As far as the four that we have possibly ID'ed, I'll contact those
    publishers directly as well, but I strongly urge everyone to go in
    there and have a look around. You will know your works better than I do, and you are the ones that have a legal right to bust some heads if there is illegally used content on there.

    OK, that's all for now... please let me know what you find out.

    Dave Clark

    ***** End Quote *****

    Now, I'm going to trot off and see if any of my content is there. If you buy content from these guys, you might not get a good licence to do it, and as I remind my customers from time to time: I don't really sell photos, I sell the right to use photos.
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  • AaronM
    GFY Royality ;)
    • Oct 2001
    • 46923

    #2
    Very interesting. They have Lightspeed content on that site. I wonder if that was arranged by Lightspeed. I have passed the info on to them just in case.

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    • Paul Markham
      Too old to care
      • Jun 2001
      • 52942

      #3
      Hi Tom
      Thanks for the warning.
      None of our stuff there but it looks like loads of different photographers styles.



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      • Rochard
        Jägermeister Test Pilot
        • Dec 2001
        • 75733

        #4
        These clowns sure are using Lightspeed Conent...... Without my permission. Funny thing, there's no contact information other than an email address........ Whois turns up notta. Our attorney will have a blast with this one......
        Herschel Savage
        Brooklyn, NY

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        • bruce
          Confirmed User
          • May 2001
          • 147

          #5
          unseen, all i can say is THANK YOU!

          just checked their site and found matrix stuff. i think a vein in my neck exploded.

          i'll be all over this like flies on stink.
          Bruce

          Matrix Content

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          • bruce
            Confirmed User
            • May 2001
            • 147

            #6
            here's his whois:
            --------------------------------------------

            Registrant:
            Jason Himes
            Luscious Entertainment
            PO BOX 42267
            Eugene, Oregon 97404
            United States

            Registrar: Go Daddy Software (http://registrar.godaddy.com)
            Domain Name: DOWNLOADABLECONTENT.COM
            Created on: 19-Jan-02
            Expires on: 19-Jan-03
            Last Updated on: 03-Feb-02

            Administrative Contact:
            Himes, Jason [email protected]
            Luscious Entertainment
            PO BOX 42267
            Eugene, Oregon 97404
            United States
            800-523-2929
            Technical Contact:
            Himes, Jason [email protected]
            Luscious Entertainment
            PO BOX 42267
            Eugene, Oregon 97404
            United States
            800-523-2929

            Domain servers in listed order:
            NS1.MTR-INTERNET.NET
            NS2.MTR-INTERNET.NET
            Bruce

            Matrix Content

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            • kmanrox
              aka K-Man
              • Oct 2001
              • 29295

              #7
              figures hes from oregon ;-)
              Crypto HODLr
              Crypto mining
              Angel investor

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              • UnseenWorld
                Confirmed User
                • May 2001
                • 5279

                #8
                Originally posted by bruce
                unseen, all i can say is THANK YOU!

                just checked their site and found matrix stuff. i think a vein in my neck exploded.

                i'll be all over this like flies on stink.

                No problem. And as far as I can see, I'm one that did NOT get hit.
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                • AaronM
                  GFY Royality ;)
                  • Oct 2001
                  • 46923

                  #9
                  Originally posted by bruce
                  here's his whois:
                  --------------------------------------------

                  Registrant:
                  Jason Himes
                  Luscious Entertainment
                  PO BOX 42267
                  Eugene, Oregon 97404
                  United States

                  Registrar: Go Daddy Software (http://registrar.godaddy.com)
                  Domain Name: DOWNLOADABLECONTENT.COM
                  Created on: 19-Jan-02
                  Expires on: 19-Jan-03
                  Last Updated on: 03-Feb-02

                  Administrative Contact:
                  Himes, Jason [email protected]
                  Luscious Entertainment
                  PO BOX 42267
                  Eugene, Oregon 97404
                  United States
                  800-523-2929
                  Technical Contact:
                  Himes, Jason [email protected]
                  Luscious Entertainment
                  PO BOX 42267
                  Eugene, Oregon 97404
                  United States
                  800-523-2929

                  Domain servers in listed order:
                  NS1.MTR-INTERNET.NET
                  NS2.MTR-INTERNET.NET
                  This is only about a 100 mile drive for me. Want me to track this fucker down and pay him a visit?

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                  • AaronM
                    GFY Royality ;)
                    • Oct 2001
                    • 46923

                    #10
                    For those of you that this guy got to.... I would suggest grabbing screen caps before the evidence is gone.

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                    • Danny_C
                      Confirmed User
                      • Feb 2002
                      • 2160

                      #11
                      Well holy shit. I guess I better hurry and remove a link. I thought you were jumping the gun with this post at first, but apparently not.

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                      • bruce
                        Confirmed User
                        • May 2001
                        • 147

                        #12
                        ther was a thread this morning asking if matrix supplied the id's with it's content? any connection?
                        Bruce

                        Matrix Content

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                        • LiveDose
                          Show Yer Tits!
                          • Feb 2002
                          • 25792

                          #13
                          Oh, man this is going to be fun to watch. This guy is done....

                          Scammer Alert: acer19 acer [email protected] [email protected] Money stolen using PayPal

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                          • UnseenWorld
                            Confirmed User
                            • May 2001
                            • 5279

                            #14
                            More News!!!:

                            I got this e-mail just now:

                            ***** BEGIN QUOTE *****

                            Hi Again Tom (and Dave on the CC) -

                            I saw your post on GFY about DownloadableContent.com - I thought you would
                            find this interesting:
                            http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI...tem=1707595052

                            I emailed the guy through ebay and asked what site he was selling. Guess
                            what url he sent me?
                            http://www.downloadablecontent.com/index2.html

                            The auction ended without a sale, but I would keep an eye on that eBay account.

                            Please keep my name out of this, but I thought you might want to know.

                            Good luck with your investigation!

                            Take care,

                            (name withheld)

                            ***** END QUOTE *****

                            Somebody want to contact e-Bay and PayPal?
                            Last edited by UnseenWorld; 02-24-2002, 03:42 PM.
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                            • bruce
                              Confirmed User
                              • May 2001
                              • 147

                              #15
                              mother fucker
                              Bruce

                              Matrix Content

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                              • UnseenWorld
                                Confirmed User
                                • May 2001
                                • 5279

                                #16
                                Originally posted by bruce
                                mother fucker
                                This guy's got brass balls. You've got to give him that. I hope he looks good in stripes, because he seems to be committing a Federal crime.
                                SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.

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                                • jic
                                  Registered User
                                  • Jan 2002
                                  • 17

                                  #17
                                  Well thats him.. here is his ISP.. Its about 1.5 hrs from here .. Well 1 hr doing ~110 MPH hehe..

                                  EPIK Communications
                                  3501 Quadrangle Boulevard
                                  Orlando, Florida 32817
                                  407.482.8400 Phone
                                  407.482.8404 Fax

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                                  • sinmaster
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Dec 2001
                                    • 376

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by AaronM


                                    This is only about a 100 mile drive for me. Want me to track this fucker down and pay him a visit?
                                    Hey AaronM, I am half way between you and eugene, if you want some extra help just give a yell.
                                    Hate to miss out on a good ass whoopin' that is so close to home.

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                                    • AaronM
                                      GFY Royality ;)
                                      • Oct 2001
                                      • 46923

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by sinmaster


                                      Hey AaronM, I am half way between you and eugene, if you want some extra help just give a yell.
                                      Hate to miss out on a good ass whoopin' that is so close to home.
                                      You got it... Meanwhile, why don't you join us for some fun this Friday?

                                      http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...threadid=51242

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                                      • UnseenWorld
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • May 2001
                                        • 5279

                                        #20
                                        Just got more information in an e-mail from Dave Clark at Web-Legal (some of it I've already presented) on the DownloadableContent.com scam:

                                        ***** BEGIN QUOTE *****

                                        Heylo!

                                        Several people have checked in and told me that they have found
                                        their content on http://www.downloadablecontent.com for sale
                                        without authorization now. In addition to this, these were brought to
                                        my attention:

                                        http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-
                                        cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1703763527

                                        http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-
                                        cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1707595052

                                        One is an auction that was successfully completed, one expired
                                        yesterday without a purchaser. They are identical, and were posted
                                        by the same user account. The person reporting the "newer" one
                                        was told in private e-mail that the site for sale was
                                        downloadablecontent.com .

                                        Read over the description of the website, paying particular note to
                                        the "expenses" (notice no content expenses) and bragging about
                                        how many customers they have. I think that it's time to shut these
                                        twerps down.

                                        I'm going to suggest that everyone that has content being pirated
                                        here, get out and post some info on the webmaster boards out
                                        there to let people know NOT to be sucked in by this sham. Then,
                                        you may want to see about filing a DMCA claim against their ISP to
                                        get them shut down. If you want to take further action, you may want
                                        to look into it, but I have no idea if it would be worth the time.
                                        Getting this character out of the marketplace would seem to me to
                                        be the #1 priority...

                                        Please, if you haven't checked out that site yet, please do so
                                        quickly, and see if your material is being pirated there.

                                        Dave Clark

                                        ***** END QUOTE *****

                                        Do your various things!
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                                        • bruce
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • May 2001
                                          • 147

                                          #21
                                          mother fucker. i fired off a bunch of emails but no response (no surprise). well, guess i have my day cut out for me tomorrow.
                                          Bruce

                                          Matrix Content

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                                          • sinmaster
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Dec 2001
                                            • 376

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by AaronM


                                            You got it... Meanwhile, why don't you join us for some fun this Friday?

                                            http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...threadid=51242
                                            I wish I could but I have to go pick-up a car I purchased, gonna be sweet to get my ass back in a porsche again

                                            I have checked the local phone directory in eugene and the name dickwad gives comes up as unlisted, the phone number on the whois is to reality office.

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                                            • AaronM
                                              GFY Royality ;)
                                              • Oct 2001
                                              • 46923

                                              #23
                                              Cross check the name with the name provided in the eBay seller info and if they match, we have a winner.

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                                              • TroubleMaker
                                                Registered User
                                                • Feb 2002
                                                • 2

                                                #24
                                                I received an e-mail from Lady Sharlot regarding Downloadablecontent and, sure enough, he had my content for sale!

                                                I sent him a Digital Millennium Copyright Act Notification, along with one to his Host, and received a reply from an "HT" at [email protected] that claims he purchased the content off e-bay. Strangly enough though, my stolen content (the "River" series) was immediately removed.

                                                And even though his Host (MR Entreprises dba MTR-Internet.net and LightSpeedServers.net) states in their AUP that what he's doing is grounds for pulling the plug - he's still up and running.

                                                Is it possible to pool our legal efforts or should we each sue this bastard individually?

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                                                • UnseenWorld
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • May 2001
                                                  • 5279

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by TroubleMaker
                                                  I received an e-mail from Lady Sharlot regarding Downloadablecontent and, sure enough, he had my content for sale!

                                                  I sent him a Digital Millennium Copyright Act Notification, along with one to his Host, and received a reply from an "HT" at [email protected] that claims he purchased the content off e-bay. Strangly enough though, my stolen content (the "River" series) was immediately removed.

                                                  And even though his Host (MR Entreprises dba MTR-Internet.net and LightSpeedServers.net) states in their AUP that what he's doing is grounds for pulling the plug - he's still up and running.

                                                  Is it possible to pool our legal efforts or should we each sue this bastard individually?

                                                  What a lot of webmasters don't get is that they don't really buy photos, they buy the RIGHT to use the photos, and that unless they buy those rights from the actual owner of the photos, or someone licensed to resell them, they have diddly-squat.

                                                  I would tell that poor person that they need to buy the right to use the photos from you if they want to use them, and that they need to get their money back (if they can) from downloadablecontent.com, or they'll be listed as a defendant along with downloadablecontent.com.
                                                  Last edited by UnseenWorld; 02-25-2002, 10:52 AM.
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                                                  • Paul Markham
                                                    Too old to care
                                                    • Jun 2001
                                                    • 52942

                                                    #26
                                                    Get a lawyer to serve notice on him. Do not tell him which sets are in dispute.
                                                    Then serve notice on his host they are also liable once they have recieved notice.
                                                    APIC said they were on to it but the site is still up.

                                                    Also email Ebay

                                                    [email protected]



                                                    Blowout deal. 880 videos, 2,400 image sets, plus many RAW videos. $500.
                                                    PM me for a deal. Skype Paulmarkham70

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                                                    • picpile
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Nov 2001
                                                      • 734

                                                      #27
                                                      looks like paypal has shut down his account for ordering content.

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