Busty2.com

[CRAB]

anyone promotes them ? how are the conversions ?

[ldinternet]

Not heard much from them since BA closed down.

Personally I wouldn't put my trust in a program like that... yeah, its not the exact same people, but the affiliation with BA is still there... so, you either trust them or you don't. Either way I know I'd be pissed if I lost $6k + in recurrings.

[ez12]

that's fucked up man lets get the wodka !

[J.R.]

I heard that they do not do well.
A bunch of my webmasters were promoting
them but they only retained about 10% of initial joins.

If you want to know, look at the quality
of the images and see for yourself or join and
see why no one stays past the trial.

I personally, have not promoted them
and yes, they are competition, but I have
been around for nearly 5 years online.

I would not touch them, and if your wondering
I was the marketing webmaster for Busty-Amateurs.com
until it closed. I was there from day 1 to day end.

I lost over 150k a year and yes that pissed me off.

So, check out http://www.wantboobs.com and you can
make more money.. I would sell my site before I ever closed
it.


Oh, the Busty 2 site only provided a small % of the images
to the site. The former REAL photographers for BA work for me.

Thanks.. hope that helps!

[Gary]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Thats a BIG help, thank you very much.

[Theo]

Originally posted by J.R.
I heard that they do not do well.
A bunch of my webmasters were promoting
them but they only retained about 10% of initial joins.

If you want to know, look at the quality
of the images and see for yourself or join and
see why no one stays past the trial.

I personally, have not promoted them
and yes, they are competition, but I have
been around for nearly 5 years online.

I would not touch them, and if your wondering
I was the marketing webmaster for Busty-Amateurs.com
until it closed. I was there from day 1 to day end.

I lost over 150k a year and yes that pissed me off.

So, check out http://www.wantboobs.com and you can
make more money.. I would sell my site before I ever closed
it.


Oh, the Busty 2 site only provided a small % of the images
to the site. The former REAL photographers for BA work for me.

Thanks.. hope that helps!

very creative

[Theo]

nice avs you have though
http://www.wantboobs.com

[ADIDAS]

I swear, JR did nothing but try and SLANDER Busty2 on their message board! He's pissed they are doing better! I get decent recurring and retention with B2! They have some decent content! And since I know some of the guys there and from the former BA I can tell you that the photographer did over 50% of the pics for them the last year of BA's life!

I was skeptical about joining the program since I lost $4000+ a month with their closure. Give em a try, I did! And I am happy, it does well with cheaply done amateur galleries!

Just my 2 cents!

[J.R.]

Adidas,

I am guessing your friends with them. Funny that
you mention what you did since I have NEVER actually
been a member of their site.

I was given a pass for about 24 hours, hmm.. 2 months ago
and that was enough for me.

If they were doing as well as you say, they would have more
the 4 models and 2 feeds.

I am not going to slam them one bit, I don't need to.
I wish them the best of luck

[quiet]

4 models? is that the truth, or more bullshit?

[webmasterb2]

I am one of the webmasters for Busty2.com and the stuff JR is posting is crap and lies. The owner of Busty2 is a Photographer called Phil Warren who has been in
Glamour Photography for more than 20 years. He was the photographer on the sex survivor 2000 shot in the Hollywood hills about 18 months ago.
Phil was Busty-Amateurs main photographer during 2000 and 2001, before he came on the scene they did in fact use two other local guys who they where
not to happy with, why else would they give most of there work to Phil. He shot 24 videos and more than 76 sets of images for Busty, he also introduced Erica
Rose Campbell, Trisha, Lilliana and a few other models to the site. When Jeff decided to close Busty, webmasters lost a lot of money including Phil who was shooting
14 days a month for BA. So when they closed Phil decided, as he had all the contacts with the current models to open Busty2
To show how committed he is he spent a ton of $$$ on a booth at the internext show which was a fantastic success and his connections in the industry have
help tremendously with the growth of the site. All his images are new and exclusive and shot with the same exact equipment as used for BA.
On B2 we don't have a load of old images from the old site but all new image / videos.

With regard to our retention rate 2 -3 months is average with more than 25% joining for the 3 month membership and 10 % joining for the 6 month
membership. A new 12 month membership is being added next week at the request of many clients. He is opening more new sites during the coming months
and is here for many years to come. To get our members we don't have to resort to name calling or putting down other sites. instead we invest all our time in
keeping our members happy and increasing the content on the sites, advertising and promoting B2.

We are changing from IBILL as our main Processor to Epoch which we know will
increase our sign ups and retention even more, as many will know IBILL is in a real mess !!!
If you wish to join our affiliate program great and if not that's great to. One last piece of information we are not connected to the old management of
Busty-Amateurs who have moved on to other projects outside the adult industry.

[webmasterb2]

Its bull shit what else can you expect from this guy he is desperate for members.
The list of models with all new images on the busty site is as follows.
Erica Campbell, Jovanna, Aria giovanni, Alisa, Abi, Kelly, Fawna, Tiffanee, Butter, Gabriella,
Julie, Susie, Danni, Crissy, Mia, Terrie, Rula, Kira, Mai, Alissa, Daizie, Natalia, Penny, Ivy, Becky , Rachel. with about two new models added each month.

[chachi]

wantboobs.com fucking sucks.

[Jahz]

webmasterb2 - I'm not sure what you're on, but I find it hard to believe that those poorly lit, grainy pictures on your site were taken by any professional photographer (not to mention one with 20 years experience). And after looking around your site... I only counted 4 models... ??

I can testify that JR is telling it like it is though - i used to do banner design for for BA through him (If you don't believe me, you can find the work at: http://www.emfreelance.com/samples.htm - you'll see a total of 70 banners done for BA - and you'll see some of the new stuff I now do for WantBoobs.com). And as far as I've seen, WantBoobs.com is the only thing that compares to the original BA (the only thing i'd add is daily updates instead of bi-weekly) - but they've got all the models, and any moron can see that the photographs are taken with the same style/skill as the content that used to be on BA (and i've still got a shit load of BA content sitting on my computer from the banner work I did for them... I'll send samples to anyone who wants them so you can compare for yourself!).

SO... in conclusion... Busty2.com seems to be some cheap-ass knockoff trying to ride on the tails of Busty-Amateurs, and WantBoobs.com is a pretty damn good site, that is run by someone who actually was the head marketing Webmaster for the original BA (hey... if he wasn't... then how the fuck did I get all that work from BA, and then how come I'm still doing work for him now?)

Peace - Out!

[CRAB]

you all confuse me

[Wiredoctor]

This is a funny as shit thread. 2 old competitors pissing on each others spinoff, of busty amateurs. First Busty amateurs pulled of 1 great big scam, and screwed thousands of webmasters, now all their old partners, or employees are all popping up with spinoff sites, and pissing on each other..This is just hysterical....
My 2 cents says they are all connected and if you trust any of them your a fool...

[Gary]

Yup, wiredoctor speaks the truth. Let them all sit in their piss and fight it out. After what BA did, why would anyone want to be assosiated with them, and go as far as calling your site busty2.
LOL

[J.R.]

Wiredoctor,

I agree.. it was one big scam. I lost over
150k a year in recurring revenue when Jeff shut
the site down.. that really hurt.

My only beef is rip-off sites using Busty-Amateurs
fame to try and get ahead. I wouldn't use their name
in the way b2 has. The name is tainted....

Perhaps, B2 should pay me all my lost revenue. The only
thing they lost was some photography work. Many of
us, lost tens of thousands. If you claim to be the next
Busty-Amateurs, then you better pay their debts too!

2 top promoters combined lost over 100k a month
when Busty Closed.

Anyways, best of luck to everyone!

I made busty their money, now its my turn to make
mine and share it with others. Most people forget how
busty made their money, it wasn't from just pictures alone.

Have a great week!

[Jahz]

Another thing not to forget about Busty-Amateurs (whether it was a scam or not, and no matter how many people got screwed) - they had a good thing going while it was going - their site sold itself (quality content, simple design, daily updates - hell, it was addictive!) - so if people try to recapture that strategy, can you blame them? (next you'll bitch about how the japanesse companies copied our idea and started making cars).

But dont' get me wrong... there's a difference between trying to create a quality product by following a working example, and trying to ride on the popularity of someone else's work by claiming to be associated with them, copying the site design and choosing a cheap rip-off name - I'm surprised Jeff from BA (who still owns all the rights to the name) isn't sueing them!! (Busty2.com ?? I mean what the hell... you should hire someone with at least an ounce of creativity to think up your domain name:P instead of trying to siphone traffic and recognition from an established brand)

Consumers aren't that stupid, and yes, we can be lulled if you're providing us with something of quality, but if the product quality sucks ass too... ? I mean, c'mon...

anyways... just my 2 cents ;)