CCbill - Next Processor to go under.

[TDF]

200 sunk boats

[JFK]

201 Suspicions

[Ray@TastyDollars]

202 overy excited webmasters

[TDF]

203 hunches and hoodoos

[psyko514]

204...


hmm...



204.

[BVF]

This is all a bunch of bullpuckey. The real "reason" is sour grapes. Case Closed.

I'm going back to work. This whole thread is a bunch of shit.

[KRL]

For Hooper to so boldly make statements like he has on this thread, you do have to assume he knows something.

Also, why no counter posts from CCB yet????

[Hooper]

it's sour grapes?

over what?

[chowda]

208

to far behind

[BVF]

Originally posted by Hooper
it's sour grapes?

over what?

You started the thread...spit out the reason.

[Donny]

Originally posted by KRL
Also, why no counter posts from CCB yet????

Because most companies don't waste their time responding to claims that are so ridiculous and unbelievable.

[Hooper]

I would usually agree with you DP


but for two reasons.

1) 2003 was the year of the failing processor. how many fell? 3? 4? So the idea of another falling is not so outlandish.

2) The NUMBER ONE indicator that a processor is going to fail is.... *drumroll*

SILENCE

Perhaps it's something like an osterich sticking it's head in the ground?

[Ray@TastyDollars]

Originally posted by DonovanPhillips



Because most companies don't waste their time responding to claims that are so ridiculous and unbelievable.

What a crock! If I were them Id get my ass responding to this quick. True or not, many webmasters are gonna pull their links just to be safe!!

[BVF]

Originally posted by Ray

What a crock! If I were them Id get my ass responding to this quick. True or not, many webmasters are gonna pull their links just to be safe!!

Then they would be some jackass idiot webmasters..

[Donny]

Originally posted by Ray

What a crock! If I were them Id get my ass responding to this quick. True or not, many webmasters are gonna pull their links just to be safe!!

Only the stupid new ones that don't know any better and make no one any money.

Seriously.

[Donny]

Originally posted by BVF


Then they would be some jackass idiot webmasters..

Damn, you beat me to it.

[Ray@TastyDollars]

Originally posted by BVF


Then they would be some jackass idiot webmasters..

I guess that would be true in a situation where CCbill would have at least tried to defend them selves. CCbill really needs to make a statment if its all bull.

[Observing]

As said before you wont get an xbox for posting so much in your own thread. I have processed through ccbill for the past 2 years (1 year first with ibill) and I don't get why ppl are on Ibill's back either, for me ccbill simply offered me services that Ibill couldnt which is why I switched. I have been very happy with ccb through the years, the phone support is really ok and mail support likewise. The two times I have seen drastic changes to their interfaces a few bugs have followed but it has been minimal. Checks/wires arrive on time every time so I just dont see any signs at all that would point to them going out of business.

Personally I dont see why anyone would start a thread like this, and then keep posting in it. First you are like "I'm just saying Im pulling out bla bla bla" and still you keep posting and defending and accusing and explaining...
Hope you can take it if you are sure it isn't but, smells like bullshit to me

[Kimmykim]

Originally posted by Hooper
1) 2003 was the year of the failing processor. how many fell? 3? 4? So the idea of another falling is not so outlandish.

2) The NUMBER ONE indicator that a processor is going to fail is.... *drumroll*

SILENCE

Perhaps it's something like an osterich sticking it's head in the ground?

Come on Hoop, this just gets more whacked every time I look at it.

Out of the processors that 'fell' as you call it last year, how many were 'pushed over the cliff' by Visa for refusing to comply with their regulations and rules?

I'll answer that... EVERY ONE of them. Epoch, Jettis, Ibill and yes, CCBill, are all properly structured and in compliance with Visa so they were not targets.

Add to that the fact that processors go out of business all the time -- shall I remind the board readers of DMR, Digiblaze, MSBill, and a couple of other smaller ones that went out of business well before last year?

As for silence, tell me who has really been loud and vocal at CCBill since I left? Corvett does a bit of posting but why would he post here in this thread? What else can or would CCBill say but that they aren't going out of business?

There are three sides to every story, this much I know. And while I don't know the sides to this one particularly, it seems that tempers might have gotten out of hand and we've now got the porn version of the Cuban Missile Crisis started up...

CCBill isn't going under, everyone shoulda used Quickbuck, it's just another sunny Thursday at the beach. Let's all get to work and make a few more dollars today...

[4Pics]

back up

[webair]

Originally posted by Hooper
i'm just telling you that we're pulling our processing from them.

we pulled our processing from wsb about 3 months before they went under.

we pulled our processing from pswbilling about 2 months before they went under.

i'm not going to point fingers.

you should process wherever you feel most confident that you'll get your money.

The man has a good track record thus far (see above =), i'd suggest taking it for what it is (hint hint) and make some desicsions as to where you will be processing in the future.

[sexsup]

Originally posted by Catalinas
What are the reasons you think they might go under?

Just the new rules of VISA sorted out everyday

[pornstar2pac]

Originally posted by Hooper
I would usually agree with you DP


but for two reasons.

1) 2003 was the year of the failing processor. how many fell? 3? 4? So the idea of another falling is not so outlandish.

2) The NUMBER ONE indicator that a processor is going to fail is.... *drumroll*

SILENCE

Perhaps it's something like an osterich sticking it's head in the ground?

hopper said "DP"

[TonyL]

Lots of "fuzzy math" in this thread.

-Tony

[SpoinkDexter]

Hello, I am new here but I couldn't contain myself.

The guy who said there was a 250K limit has been misinformed, and I didn't see any examples so I thought I would help out:

1) Dish Network has over 7 million subscribers worldwide. They say that over 50% use autopay though their credit cards.

3.5 million users times the BASE rate of $29.99 = 104,965,000

per month. Just a thought.

What about chain stores? Sears limited to 250Kbux? I think perhaps not.

Amazon.com has yet to refuse to sell me something because they went over their processing limit. What must THEY process a month?

I appreciate the opportunity to post here. Thanks for listening.

Spoink

Originally posted by TonyL
Lots of "fuzzy math" in this thread.

-Tony

[quiet]

cough.

[bryany]

I don't think they are gonna go anywhere. They are a bunch of great guys who have their shit together IMO

[V_RocKs]

CCBILL is pretty solid and has been paying me some sweet cash for a long time now.. I don't see any reason that will stop.

[Shooting_Manic]

If I were Ron I would have called my Laywer already based on your post. You have tread a very fine line here in my opinion.

People start pulling their business based on your remarks in this thread one could argue your "speculation" cost them business. This was a very irresponsible post by a vet in the business if you ask me.

[Nickless]

fucking year old thread people read before you post.

[power182]

This thread is over a year old..... did you bump it to prove he was wrong?

[jimmyf]

This is all a bunch of bullpuckey. The real "reason" is sour grapes. Case Closed.

I'm going back to work. This whole thread is a bunch of shit.

and I took the time 2 read all this shit

[jimmyf]

fucking year old thread people read before you post.

really

[Zprogramz]

Think most use their own merchant account with gateway service from 3rd parties kinda like netbilling.. diff story.

I know we are using Netbilling almost exclusively. With their business model, they will surelyu be the last ones standing.

Z

[Shooting_Manic]

fucking year old thread people read before you post.

WTF! BryanY bumped it? WTF?

[ProjectNaked]

Some people are completely ass-backwards in timeframes

[Pornwolf]

Bryan, I think Corvet hates you today.

[andrej_NDC]

all those people who were talking 1 year ago about how rock solid ibill is are great

[keyboard warrior]

*GO SIGN UP AT PAYCOM where i personally think you'll make more $ and send 50% of your new joins there so that you're protected!*
from hooper^


I agree 100% on this as i was fucked with ibill.
DONT WHORE ALL YOUR $$$$$$ in one place.

[David - PG]

I know we are using Netbilling almost exclusively. With their business model, they will surelyu be the last ones standing.

Z

DUH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Netbilling is not a processor!!!!!!!!

Makes a *lot* of sense to compare them to CCBill or any other 3rd party processor in every thread you post in.

[tony286]

I hope no one goes under its bad for all of us . What I dont understand if you are processing gorilla numbers , why not your own merchant account and just use the gateway? You owning the database would seem worth it to me. Also I would bet you verotel is just hustlers gateway.

[Zprogramz]

DUH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Netbilling is not a processor!!!!!!!!

Makes a *lot* of sense to compare them to CCBill or any other 3rd party processor in every thread you post in.

You are wrong! They are a processor. They process transactions. Just because they are not a "3rd party processor" doesn't mean that they are not a processor. I know my moeny is safe with them.

Z

[tony286]

You are wrong! They are a processor. They process transactions. Just because they are not a "3rd party processor" doesn't mean that they are not a processor. I know my moeny is safe with them.

Z

They are called a gateway , its different but a real good one mitch is a great guy

[Donny]

Hooper said we'd all see in a year.

Well, here it is a year later. iBill=gone. CCBill = strong.

Fuck you Hooper.

[Bansheelinks]

this is one old motherfuckin thread

but its interesting to see what ppl claim will happen as to what actually DOES happen

one thing i have to say to ccbill though, lower your goddamn scrub for 2005 already. its worse than last year noticeably.

[Raven]

I hope you are wrong this time Hooper.

I've had a very close relationship to CCbill for nearly 5 years now, as we push nearly all our processing though them. I haven't seen or heard anything that would make me believe they are next on the chopping block.

Five years of CCbill's solid support and not one missed payment has earned my trust.

Steve Lightspeed

That's how we feel, too, Steve....I am surprised by this thread....we've been with them for six years now.....not a single hint of trouble and never a missed payment, plus excellent service......

Things that make me go hmmm...

[JulianSosa]

I don't think they are gonna go anywhere. They are a bunch of great guys who have their shit together IMO

WTF did you have to gain by bumping this thread?

Get a clue

[stev0]

i'm just telling you that we're pulling our processing from them.

we pulled our processing from wsb about 3 months before they went under.

we pulled our processing from pswbilling about 2 months before they went under.

i'm not going to point fingers.

you should process wherever you feel most confident that you'll get your money.

This thread looks like a pointed finger to me... why would you even start a thread like this if you have no reasoning behind it, honestly...?

[stev0]

I feel dumb for responding to the first post in a year old thread

[will76]

jmho, but i was right in advance about pswbilling and websitebilling.

we'll see in a year i guess.

in the mean time we'll be taking all of our processing away from ccbill as a precaution.

Well they are like the only one left.. so not much insight on your part to say that they will be next...