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  • VideoVoyeur
    So Fucking Banned
    • Jun 2003
    • 2181

    #1

    quick iBill question

    Why is it that Visa came up with charges for what they call risk sites (ie: adult sites"

    and yet I have a bud who went there to sell items from his home shopping business, iBill still wanted to charge him $750 to open an account whereas ccbill did not.



    iBill is getting $750 accross the board from everyone even if they arent in the adult bus? Thats not what Visa had in mind...
  • Incredicash
    Registered User
    • Jan 2004
    • 18

    #2
    IncrediCASH provides the expertise required to acquire electronic payments safely, securely, and reliably on a global scale. From the establishment of a corporate domicile through acquiring a merchant account we can lead you safely to the right payment processing relationships. As well, we will provide the day to day expertise to manage your sales and maintain your merchant account in good standing.


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    ZERO chargebacks if you participate in VBV/3DSecure. Consumers that are verified through this process CANNOT chargeback. This is an optional add-on product that is only available to certain industries and is not availble for adult internet processing.
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    • Turboface
      Back in Black
      • Mar 2002
      • 9976

      #3
      Dave, I love you.

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      • xdcdave
        Confirmed User
        • Feb 2003
        • 1911

        #4
        Originally posted by Incredicash
        IncrediCASH provides the expertise required to acquire electronic payments safely, securely, and reliably on a global scale. From the establishment of a corporate domicile through acquiring a merchant account we can lead you safely to the right payment processing relationships. As well, we will provide the day to day expertise to manage your sales and maintain your merchant account in good standing.


        Verified by Visa and 3-D Secure
        ZERO chargebacks if you participate in VBV/3DSecure. Consumers that are verified through this process CANNOT chargeback. This is an optional add-on product that is only available to certain industries and is not availble for adult internet processing.
        my god, I cant look in a single fucking billing thread without your horrible spam.

        STOP FUCKING SPAMMING!!! You're rates are not that good! Do you see NetBilling in every damn thread?

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        • adjektiv
          Confirmed User
          • Jan 2003
          • 381

          #5
          Your friend did not ask enough questions.
          I set up an account with Ibill for a mainstream site two weeks ago and they didn't charge me a damn thing.

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          • MarkIBill
            Confirmed User
            • Jan 2003
            • 125

            #6
            You should only pay the $750 registration fee for what Visa designates as high risk which is primarily adult. Check with your account rep tomorrow. You can contact me directly if you have any questions. [email protected].

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            • mmaisonet
              Confirmed User
              • Jan 2003
              • 252

              #7
              Thats not true dude. They're only collecting that fee from high risk sites which VISA designates is the adult market. Having said that, the fee is collected from sites located within the US. Of course, if you're located outside of the US, the you do not have to pay that fee. But you will pay higher % fee's.
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              • icedemon
                Confirmed User
                • Jun 2003
                • 1022

                #8
                I have a friend that doesn't have a adult site and is not high risk. iBill still wanted the $750 from her. Just extra money for iBill to pocket I guess. She never paid it though and isn't using them anymore.
                Clips4Sale.com

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                • tony299
                  lurker
                  • Aug 2002
                  • 57021

                  #9
                  Originally posted by icedemon
                  I have a friend that doesn't have a adult site and is not high risk. iBill still wanted the $750 from her. Just extra money for iBill to pocket I guess. She never paid it though and isn't using them anymore.
                  I am sure it was a mistake, have your friend call again and ask to speak to a manager.

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                  • Incredicash
                    Registered User
                    • Jan 2004
                    • 18

                    #10
                    Originally posted by xdcdave


                    my god, I cant look in a single fucking billing thread without your horrible spam.

                    STOP FUCKING SPAMMING!!! You're rates are not that good! Do you see NetBilling in every damn thread?
                    Dave- I don't know how you don't think that 5.5% is not an aggressive rate.

                    Why would I care what Netbilling posts in billing threads? They are in a completely different business than we are.

                    What in your opinion is a good rate?
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                    • dotwind
                      Confirmed User
                      • Dec 2003
                      • 285

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Incredicash


                      Dave- I don't know how you don't think that 5.5% is not an aggressive rate.

                      Why would I care what Netbilling posts in billing threads? They are in a completely different business than we are.

                      What in your opinion is a good rate?
                      You are a joke bro, no phone number to contact you on your website and a design that is done in 5 min and you think people will trust you with their money.

                      people watch out looks scammy
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                      • icedemon
                        Confirmed User
                        • Jun 2003
                        • 1022

                        #12
                        Originally posted by tony404


                        I am sure it was a mistake, have your friend call again and ask to speak to a manager.
                        She did talk to the manager. This was back when iBill first asked for the $750 visa fee. The manager said, she didn't have to pay, but Visa never showed up on her join pages. They kept saying they would fix it, but never did. She's not iBill anymore, so it doesn't matter.
                        Clips4Sale.com

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                        • Incredicash
                          Registered User
                          • Jan 2004
                          • 18

                          #13
                          Originally posted by dotwind


                          You are a joke bro, no phone number to contact you on your website and a design that is done in 5 min and you think people will trust you with their money.

                          people watch out looks scammy
                          You are correct about no number or additional contact info on the site but, if that's all you need to do business with someone, the joke's on you "bro".

                          The site was put up quicky to get the pre-app online so we didn't have to rely on having applicants fill out forms by hand and having to fax them in. There's no need ot put a number up because there's nothing to call about either you fill out the pre-app and get approved or denied. We have an agreement with several Tier 1 European acquirers who are actively seeking adullt/aggregator business.

                          You mention the site, however you make no mention of anything pertaining to my business. If all it took were a good site to make money in this business everybody would be rich and none of the processors would be in trouble. But that, sadly enough, isn't true. We are not a payment processor, we are a transaction gateway services provider. The major diffenrence is simply that you are responsible for your own reporting and the settlements are made directly from the bank, we never touch your money. You don't have to have your business co-mingled with large payment processors less than desireable clients' transactions, so in theory you should be better able to control your own chargebacks.

                          There's no set up fee until you're accepted, so let's do this: You fill out an application, we score you and if you're accepted at a preferred rate you can go ahead make all the gratuitous assertions you want (while saving a shitload on your CC processing). If not, not let us conduct out business how we see fit and you continue yours as you see fit to do so.

                          It easy to make whatever accusations you like and even easier to cry scammer. The question that begs to be answered is why some of you are so obviously threatened?

                          "If a monkey could do more than chatter, chances are he would"- Chinese Proverb
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                          • Kimmykim
                            bitchslapping zebras!!!!!
                            • Jun 2001
                            • 16015

                            #14
                            Someone please teach the spammer some manners.

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                            • icedemon
                              Confirmed User
                              • Jun 2003
                              • 1022

                              #15
                              [QUOTE]Originally posted by Incredicash


                              You are correct about no number or additional contact info on the site but, if that's all you need to do business with someone, the joke's on you "bro".

                              The site was put up quicky to get the pre-app online so we didn't have to rely on having applicants fill out forms by hand and having to fax them in. There's no need ot put a number up because there's nothing to call about either you fill out the pre-app and get approved or denied. We have an agreement with several Tier 1 European acquirers who are actively seeking adullt/aggregator business.
                              [/QUOTE

                              There are several reasons to put up a number. Some people do have questions. You might not think so, but people do come up with questions. Another is that people trust companies that they can call. I'm one of them. If you don't have a phone number and address on your site, I'm not going to use you. I want to talk to a actual person. Not do the email back and forth thingy.

                              I'm just saying you might be losing potential customers, just because you don't have a address and phone number. If people don't have questions like you say they do, then you don't have to worry about them calling. It just gives a impression that your a fly by night business with out that info. Remember, your dealing with peoples money and lively hoods.
                              Clips4Sale.com

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                              • TurboAngel
                                H.B.I.C.
                                • Jun 2003
                                • 30122

                                #16
                                Do you people know that V. V. is a scammer and a conman?

                                Why help him?


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                                • Incredicash
                                  Registered User
                                  • Jan 2004
                                  • 18

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by icedemon

                                  There are several reasons to put up a number. Some people do have questions. You might not think so, but people do come up with questions. Another is that people trust companies that they can call. I'm one of them. If you don't have a phone number and address on your site, I'm not going to use you. I want to talk to a actual person. Not do the email back and forth thingy.

                                  I'm just saying you might be losing potential customers, just because you don't have a address and phone number. If people don't have questions like you say they do, then you don't have to worry about them calling. It just gives a impression that your a fly by night business with out that info. Remember, your dealing with peoples money and lively hoods.
                                  Tried to hit you up, but there's no ICQ, etc. in your sig.
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                                  • AM Jeff
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Aug 2002
                                    • 1320

                                    #18
                                    Dave, pay me my money you owe me.
                                    btw...

                                    Feel the Rage Motherfucker. It's Coming Soon to a Browser near you.

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                                    • AM Jeff
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Aug 2002
                                      • 1320

                                      #19
                                      Some of the newbies have no clue. VideoVoyeur is a major scammer.

                                      Newbies..stay clear of Dave.
                                      Do a search on here and you will learn all about him and his ways.

                                      Feel the Rage Motherfucker. It's Coming Soon to a Browser near you.

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