What's a "50% Partnership Program" ???

[fedfest]

Naive as i might be i thought it was a program that payed me 50% of all sales i brought in from my traffic.. Only these days it seems that many sponsors stuff their sites with e-mail catchers and popups not crediting the affiliates.. And that's on their fucking partnership program !!

Just wondering if i'm the only one thinking that's fucking the affiliates in the ass ?

[strobi]

If you don't agree with their terms send your traffic elsewere. Problem solved.

[chodadog]

There are a few partnership programs without traffic leaks that pay on exits, pay you 50% before taking out processing charges, etc.

[fedfest]

Originally posted by strobi
If you don't agree with their terms send your traffic elsewere. Problem solved.

That's what i'm doing... Still, moving traffic all the time gets pretty anoying.. especialy when the programs are "clean" when i join them and then starts making more and more of that funny stuff

[pradaboy]

if someone f*cks you... diss them

[fedfest]

What actualy pisses me off the most is that when i talk to the guys behind those programs they don't even seem to think they are cheating.. Basicly becaurse all the others are doing it aswell..

Seems to be a worrying ongoing trend in adult bizz that if enough are doing it and don't get too much fuzz about it, others follow with the same cheats..

Looks like i have to spend more and more time monitoring sponsors instead of getting them new traffic

[Stud Money]

Originally posted by chodadog
There are a few partnership programs without traffic leaks that pay on exits, pay you 50% before taking out processing charges, etc.

Just like http://www.studmoney.com

Webmasters make 50% of whatever the surfer pays, we eat the processing charges and the most highly trafficked links on our single console all carry the affiliates id too

[Dirty D]

Check us out at http://www.HowIgotRich.com

Lots of sites to promote - CCbill drops a cookie and you get paid on signups to ANY site.

Here is an example of the sites http://www.thestall.com/index2.htm

Signup now and get in on our $1 MILLION in 2004 BONUS MONEY

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[fedfest]

Originally posted by dustman
Check us out at http://www.HowIgotRich.com

Lots of sites to promote - CCbill drops a cookie and you get paid on signups to ANY site.

Here is an example of the sites http://www.thestall.com/index2.htm

Signup now and get in on our $1 MILLION in 2004 BONUS MONEY

Get paid more in 2004!

Did you at all read what i was writing ???

Just for the fun of it lets look at one of your hosted gallery links http://www.whitegirlsblackcocks.com/...?ccbill=480724 Clicking through to the site I'm instantly hit with an entry popup.. Looking at the source code for that popup i don't see the refferal Id Anywhere ??
..okay.. I'm closing it and taking a look at the site..

First you have the mentioned e-mail form at the bottom of the page.. not only do you have it, but your not even targeting it to open in a new window.. there the surfer goes, away from the site i promoted.. Luckily for you though you remembered to put a link on that page to one of your other sites so YOU should have a fair chance of still making sales..

..Okay.. asuming the surfer is still really interested in the first site, he hits the back button.. Weee.. the popup again !
So.. looking at the site now, first you have a picture linked to..ehh..Nothing ??

Then we have your navigation
1.'Members' Hits you with a string of 7-8 popups that allmost crashed my computer.
2.'Join' To my surprise that one was actualy safe to click.. allthough i got the popup when clicking back to the tour..
3.'Girls' Ohh my.. the popup again.. I wonder how many like it better this time than they did the other times they saw it ?
4.'Dvd/Vhs' I'm sure it's a nice thing that your selling some videos.. but why should i as an affiliate waste my traffic on that ??
5.'E-mail' Damn.. this should be your join link.. no fuzz no pop's.. A link that worked and didn't give me the shit *lol*
6. 'Faq' Well you must have those.. but these seems to relate more to you selling videos than selling a membership to the site (you know..the one i was trying to promote..remember ?)
7.'Links' Sure.. theres nothing i would like my traffic spent on more than feeding your traffic trades.. Ehh.. WTF ??

Now your only tracking on cookies, witch is allready loosing my reffcode to all those that have cookies off, but on top of that your site has more traffic leaks than most CJ tgp's i have seen..

Now please read my posts again and tell me.. do you think you program is what i'm looking for ?????

[struggle7]

I agree with you. I think it is an outrage.

What I especially hate are entry popups that go to sites who do not give me a cut. Not only is it giving someone else money, if it steals the focus also it is even making it less likely that the surfer I sent will signup to the site.

You can detect this by looking at the 1st page to 2nd page ratio by the way.

Here's something that might piss off some of the smaller webmaster out there when they consider it.

You have two sponsors, Sponsor A and Sponsor B.

These sponsors make a deal to each have an entry pop up listing only or mostly the other sponsors sites. Both sponsors know that the entry consoles will cut down significantly on sales for their respective sites BUT they don't mind because they are actually more interested in taking the traffic from the affiliate and sending it over to Sponsor B without giving the affiliate the cut.

The problem here is that the sponsor really has little desire to sell sales to their site anymore that you would get a cut for. Why should they when they can sell something else and get it all without paying you a dime? And how much worse it is if it isn't really another sponsor at all that they do this with but another of their own sites that they fail to credit you for.

Add to this:

Exit consoles w/ non credited links
"Back up" / "secondary" processors
Cross sells w/o giving the affiliate a cut

"Partnership program" "50/50. Suuuuuuuuure it is.

Sometimes I wonder about people when they call themselves "businessmen". What kind of businessman are you when you can't survive without these tactics? Seems you'd be a better one if you could pull it off honestly and earn the title. For some using such tactics I'd say "scam artist" would be a more deserved title.

The email programs (that are not consoles) have never bugged me though. And the cross sells hardly bother me either since you get credit for the sale still.

[fedfest]

Nice post struggle7

Only thing i can't agrea on is the e-mail programs.. they bug the hell out of me *lol*

Not so much becaurse i think they take that many of my signups themselfs but rather becaurse for me they are the first sign of not crediting me for all my traffic..

First comes the e-mail program, then if there's not too many complaining about those the bad coding starts (Usualy about the time you get their newsletter telling you that their new tour/site converts like crazy.. but your own ratios drop).. and then they often go on to the popups or other little trics, depending only on how gready they are i guess