Freelance Programming Websites

[Rick Latona]

I know there are a lot of websites where you can post a job that you need done and get bids from freelancers. I'm trying to find out what the biggest one is because I don't feel like using 10 sites. Anyone have a recommendation for me?

[FuqALot]

GFYboard.com.

So, if you need a programmer, <a href="mailto:[email protected]">hit</a> me <a href="http://go.icq.com/whitepages/message_me/1,,,00.icq?uin=17285634&action=message">up</a> :-).

[Babaganoosh]

scriptlance.com has always been good to me. Like FuqALot said though, there are tons of people here willing to whore themselves out although you will be able to get your job done for a LOT less by hiring an eastern european programmer. Some of them are really excellent and work for peanuts.

[SMG]

I've been doing scripting for around 5 years now, and if you need someone who's done a bit with adult sites I'm looking to take on a few regular people right now so I don't have to look so much, if you're interested email me matt at lust host dot com

[Rick Latona]

Scriptlance.com is the type of thing I am looking for. Any others?

[Mikey_219Inc]

let me say that i used elance and hired 3 programmers and they all sucked tremendous ass. low prices, promises to the moon, i would (just my opinion) NEVER use one of these bidding sites for programming.

I have a solid programmer, if you want to email me the details at mb at 219inc dot com i will ask him if he wants the job ...

I lost more money fucking around with the low life scavengers on those bid for programming sites than i would have spent on a competent reliable programmer.

just my

[Jimmer]

Try smartbrainsoftware.com, check out the work they have done:
http://www.smartbrainsoftware.com/Sm...utsourcing.htm

[WiredGuy]

Originally posted by Rick Latona
Scriptlance.com is the type of thing I am looking for. Any others?

Here's a few I can think off the top of my heaad:

http://www.guru.com/
http://www.elance.com/
http://www.brainbid.com/
http://www.ubidcontract.com/

The bigger two I've heard good things in the past are eLance and Guru.

WG

[goBigtime]

Originally posted by Mikey_219Inc
let me say that i used elance and hired 3 programmers and they all sucked tremendous ass. low prices, promises to the moon, i would (just my opinion) NEVER use one of these bidding sites for programming.

My first two or three times dealing with people on elance was pretty rough, but once I got the feel for it.. and how to work it, it was fine. Better than fine even - it was fantastic.

#1: Pay 10% up front. 90% on satisfactory completion to spec. Non-Negotiable.

Most important. NEVER pay more than that up front. 8/10 times your get screwed over or the person will drag ass and work on other projects since hes already been paid a considerable amount of money for yours. If they don't like your terms - they wont bid. But trust that people will bid.

Some people get lazy when they have all the money upfront.

#2: Give them a FULLY DETAILED spec of what you want.

If your idea of what you want isn't well described then expect problems. You HAVE to list every possible feature and function you want the application to do. How else is the programmer going to know what you want?

Some people say "I want a clone of XXXXXXX.com"... hehe.. well if you think about that you can see how that could be problematic. You can see the front end of XXXXXXX.com, but not what goes on behind the scenes. You and the programmer might have entirely different idea's of that. You need to convey yours since ultimately, the programmer needs to make YOU happy to get the money.


#3: Tell them to bid on a FLAT RATE for the project completed to the specifications you post.

If you are detailed enough with what you want. There should be no need for extra features. If they have extra features they think you should throw in, negotiate that with them AFTER they complete the application to your specs and it is in your hands.


A few more rules I have.. but those are the basics that will help you enjoy better outcomes when dealing with freelancer boards.

[Rick Latona]

Originally posted by goBigtime



My first two or three times dealing with people on elance was pretty rough, but once I got the feel for it.. and how to work it, it was fine. Better than fine even - it was fantastic.

#1: Pay 10% up front. 90% on satisfactory completion to spec. Non-Negotiable.

Most important. NEVER pay more than that up front. 8/10 times your get screwed over or the person will drag ass and work on other projects since hes already been paid a considerable amount of money for yours. If they don't like your terms - they wont bid. But trust that people will bid.

Some people get lazy when they have all the money upfront.

#2: Give them a FULLY DETAILED spec of what you want.

If your idea of what you want isn't well described then expect problems. You HAVE to list every possible feature and function you want the application to do. How else is the programmer going to know what you want?

Some people say "I want a clone of XXXXXXX.com"... hehe.. well if you think about that you can see how that could be problematic. You can see the front end of XXXXXXX.com, but not what goes on behind the scenes. You and the programmer might have entirely different idea's of that. You need to convey yours since ultimately, the programmer needs to make YOU happy to get the money.


#3: Tell them to bid on a FLAT RATE for the project completed to the specifications you post.

If you are detailed enough with what you want. There should be no need for extra features. If they have extra features they think you should throw in, negotiate that with them AFTER they complete the application to your specs and it is in your hands.


A few more rules I have.. but those are the basics that will help you enjoy better outcomes when dealing with freelancer boards.

Solid advice. Thank you.

[Mikey_219Inc]

Originally posted by goBigtime



My first two or three times dealing with people on elance was pretty rough, but once I got the feel for it.. and how to work it, it was fine. Better than fine even - it was fantastic.

#1: Pay 10% up front. 90% on satisfactory completion to spec. Non-Negotiable.

Most important. NEVER pay more than that up front. 8/10 times your get screwed over or the person will drag ass and work on other projects since hes already been paid a considerable amount of money for yours. If they don't like your terms - they wont bid. But trust that people will bid.

Some people get lazy when they have all the money upfront.

#2: Give them a FULLY DETAILED spec of what you want.

If your idea of what you want isn't well described then expect problems. You HAVE to list every possible feature and function you want the application to do. How else is the programmer going to know what you want?

Some people say "I want a clone of XXXXXXX.com"... hehe.. well if you think about that you can see how that could be problematic. You can see the front end of XXXXXXX.com, but not what goes on behind the scenes. You and the programmer might have entirely different idea's of that. You need to convey yours since ultimately, the programmer needs to make YOU happy to get the money.


#3: Tell them to bid on a FLAT RATE for the project completed to the specifications you post.

If you are detailed enough with what you want. There should be no need for extra features. If they have extra features they think you should throw in, negotiate that with them AFTER they complete the application to your specs and it is in your hands.


A few more rules I have.. but those are the basics that will help you enjoy better outcomes when dealing with freelancer boards.

Go Big time, i did ALL of that shit with those programmers ... just fair warning ... i would not wish what i went through on ANYONE ... again, opinions are like assholes, but im telling you i could not have given them more precise instructions, and "oh yes, thats very easy, ill have it in a week ..." all bullshit ...

Me personally, i will NEVER use any of those services ... they get the job then farm it down to students, you end up dealing with a different person every week, this happened to me 3 times! (ok so im an idiot i should have learned the first time

each time i told the new guy "the last guy really wasted my time, i want professional work and no farming down ..." ... they said no problem, assured me, and grabbed the vaseline...

again, just my

[goBigtime]

Originally posted by Mikey_219Inc


Go Big time, i did ALL of that shit with those programmers ... just fair warning ... i would not wish what i went through on ANYONE ... again, opinions are like assholes, but im telling you i could not have given them more precise instructions, and "oh yes, thats very easy, ill have it in a week ..." all bullshit ...

Mikey 219 Inc,


I knew I forgot an important basic rule...


#4 -- Give them a FIRM DEADLINE and penalize them if its missed.

In the original project offering, give them a FIRM DEADLINE...and if it's missed:

Missed deadline by 24 hours+: -10% from project.
Missed deadline by 48 hours+: -20% from project.
Missed deadline by 72 hours+: Stop, drop, and roll cause your fired.

So they can be almost a full day late on the deadline & have some slack.

Some will try to give you half of it by your deadline to show they were working on it. F*ck that. No mercy.

Don't bid on the project saying you can have it done by the deadline if you can't.

I have worked with a lot of coders on many different projects and have a good understanding of what can be done in what timeframe.

I usually give more than enough time to get the project done - even by a student.

So if they can't meet that deadline, it's because they aren't working on the project the agreed to complete.

The delays cost me money - so it's coming out of their end or I'm going to reassign the project. Period.

[roly]

Originally posted by goBigtime



My first two or three times dealing with people on elance was pretty rough, but once I got the feel for it.. and how to work it, it was fine. Better than fine even - it was fantastic.

#1: Pay 10% up front. 90% on satisfactory completion to spec. Non-Negotiable.

Most important. NEVER pay more than that up front. 8/10 times your get screwed over or the person will drag ass and work on other projects since hes already been paid a considerable amount of money for yours. If they don't like your terms - they wont bid. But trust that people will bid.

Some people get lazy when they have all the money upfront.

#2: Give them a FULLY DETAILED spec of what you want.

If your idea of what you want isn't well described then expect problems. You HAVE to list every possible feature and function you want the application to do. How else is the programmer going to know what you want?

Some people say "I want a clone of XXXXXXX.com"... hehe.. well if you think about that you can see how that could be problematic. You can see the front end of XXXXXXX.com, but not what goes on behind the scenes. You and the programmer might have entirely different idea's of that. You need to convey yours since ultimately, the programmer needs to make YOU happy to get the money.


#3: Tell them to bid on a FLAT RATE for the project completed to the specifications you post.

If you are detailed enough with what you want. There should be no need for extra features. If they have extra features they think you should throw in, negotiate that with them AFTER they complete the application to your specs and it is in your hands.


A few more rules I have.. but those are the basics that will help you enjoy better outcomes when dealing with freelancer boards.

and should you get to test the script before paying the balance?

[goBigtime]

Originally posted by roly


and should you get to test the script before paying the balance?

Yes... how else are you going to know if it has been coded to your expectations?

And if they don't like the terms... they don't have to bid.

It's that simple.


Most coders will appreciate a WELL DOCUMENTED spec of what I want though. And I always provide that.... right down to databases names, fields/rows/columns, script names, even subroutines & key processes of how they should interact with each other.

But for most people a simple well documented feature list & what you expect the script or application to do is fine.

[Mikey_219Inc]

ehh, all valid points ... best of luck to anyone using these services ... i guess from your experience youve learned how to work them ...

me ... id rather make html pages for the rest of my life than go to another bidding site. Thank god i have a good reliable programmer now...

[brizzad]

i use rentacoder.com

[bigdog]

you guys should just hire a inhouse programmer you got the money

[boldy]

Hit me up, i know my skills

[ScriptBall]

If you are still looking, My team and I quote fair
Give me a shout at the ICQ in my sig, Thanks

[Rick Latona]

Originally posted by bigdog
you guys should just hire a inhouse programmer you got the money

We have a few. Right now I want to get a few quick projects done quickly and I've always wanted to give something like this a shot so I guess you can call it a trial run.