PROGRAMMERS: can you do this ??

**Juicy D. Links** · 07-16-2003, 05:00 AM

**funkmaster** · 07-16-2003, 05:05 AM

... is that a no, or do you want me to spank you ?

**bawdy** · 07-16-2003, 05:07 AM

interesting i will look into it tomorrow

**PowerCum** · 07-16-2003, 05:08 AM

Yes, it's easy to be done.
asuming you are checking google PR

**funkmaster** · 07-16-2003, 05:11 AM

... yes, google PR and I don´t give a fuck if it´s a perl script or some windows application.

... how much do you want, how long will it take ?

**PowerCum** · 07-16-2003, 05:16 AM

I figure it will take about 1 or 2 hours of work, perhaps less if google pr can be consulted in the way I think it is consulted. If no, it could take a day as much.

Do you want it server side executed or for windows stuff?

And no, I don't code perl because I don't like it

I charge by project made, not by hours worked, so if you are interested, ICQ me (171216535).

I will take my lunch now, so I will be for an hour or so offline

**goBigtime** · 07-16-2003, 05:19 AM

This'll be good.

**Mr.Fiction** · 07-16-2003, 05:19 AM

Originally posted by PowerCum

I will take my lunch now, so I will be for an hour or so offline

Who pays for lunch?

**bawdy** · 07-16-2003, 05:24 AM

Originally posted by PowerCum
I figure it will take about 1 or 2 hours of work, perhaps less if google pr can be consulted in the way I think it is consulted. If no, it could take a day as much.

Do you want it server side executed or for windows stuff?

And no, I don't code perl because I don't like it

I charge by project made, not by hours worked, so if you are interested, ICQ me (171216535).

I will take my lunch now, so I will be for an hour or so offline

have fun calculating the checksum for each url you wish to query

**lock** · 07-16-2003, 05:27 AM

In some old bookmarks once there was a site that could tell how many sites have a link to that domain you just typed in the url i wish i had this has anyone seen anything like it before i remebr i think davxxx koolcards gave me the link years ago.

**Juicy D. Links** · 07-16-2003, 05:29 AM

Originally posted by funkmaster
... is that a no, or do you want me to spank you ?

spank please

**funkmaster** · 07-16-2003, 05:30 AM

Originally posted by bawdy

have fun calculating the checksum for each url you wish to query

... that´s where stuff gets tricky, like I said many people failed so far and I guess the only way to to it is by decompiling the google toolbar source. (reverse engeneering)

**goBigtime** · 07-16-2003, 05:33 AM

Originally posted by PowerCum
I charge by project made, not by hours worked, so if you are interested, ICQ me (171216535).

Btw, a working private application like this would be valued (to some) in the high thousands -- probably even in the tens of thousands (to high priced mainstream SEO's anyway).

Here's a good start & end for you:

http://www.webmasterworld.com/forum3/1057.htm

**Reak** · 07-16-2003, 05:35 AM

Originally posted by funkmaster
... is there anybody that can code a software to batch check on domains pageranks. like I add a list of domains and the software tells me each domains pagerank ??

... too many have failed so far, so is it possible ?

Funny, i'm creating this script for one of my clients

Its not finnish yet tough..

**goBigtime** · 07-16-2003, 05:36 AM

Originally posted by Reak
...Its not finnish yet tough..

Finnish, Korean, Japanese, or Eskimo -- you're not getting around googles checksum

**Brujah** · 07-16-2003, 05:39 AM

Funk, what kind of names are you looking to check ?

**Reak** · 07-16-2003, 05:40 AM

Originally posted by goBigtime

Finnish, Korean, Japanese, or Eskimo -- you're not getting around googles checksum

**funkmaster** · 07-16-2003, 05:43 AM

Originally posted by Brujah
Funk, what kind of names are you looking to check ?

... I´ll be monitoring your domains !!

**Babaganoosh** · 07-16-2003, 05:51 AM

Right now it can't be done. Google's API doesn't support the return of PR. The one real Google tech I talked to didn't think it would ever be available within the API since Google's PR is proprietary.

http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=e...ublic.web-apis

Try a search for pagerank.

**Luc** · 07-16-2003, 06:00 AM

it can be done, but not in 2 hours or even a day like the
other guy said.

something like this would take at least a week and you'd
have to either not sell it at all (use it for yourself) or sell
it high.

google will sniff out mass queries in a day and then you'll
be doing check/2seconds tops, if that.

good luck!
luc l.

**fiveyes** · 07-16-2003, 06:49 AM

Their TOS (http://www.google.com/terms_of_service.html) expressly forbids exactly this under "No Automated Querying".

And I'd be willing to bet they'd catch you in no time at all if you did have such a program...

**funkmaster** · 07-16-2003, 06:53 AM

Originally posted by fiveyes
Their TOS (http://www.google.com/terms_of_service.html) expressly forbids exactly this under "No Automated Querying".

And I'd be willing to bet they'd catch you in no time at all if you did have such a program...

... in that case, I will also stop spaming them ...

**kad** · 07-16-2003, 07:36 AM

It can be done.

Dont even think about reversing the checksum algo, Ive tried and its hard

Im not available to work on it, but if you want to hit me up on kad at fakeplasticrobot . com, I can help you out with some ideas to run with.

edit: or you can ICQ me, ill be up for a couple more hours yet...

**icedemon** · 07-16-2003, 07:40 AM

Here is the type of url the the google toolbar uses to retrieve a pagerank.

http://www.google.com/search?
client=navclient-auto&
ch=0123456789&
features=Rank&
q=info:http://www.domain.com/

The problem comes with the ch= number changes through the toolbar. Unless you can some how get the number that is needed, it can't be done.

**fiveyes** · 07-16-2003, 07:51 AM

Here you go -

http://www-diglib.stanford.edu/~test...nkFetcher.html

Now, all you need to figure out is how to implement it. Start at http://www-diglib.stanford.edu/~testbed/doc2/WebBase/ and work your way through it...

**gornyhuy** · 07-16-2003, 07:56 AM

Keep us posted on this thing...

If nobody has a solution ready to sell for "tens of thousands of dollars" I'll take a crack at a little "out of the box" approach.

As previously stated, you'd have to be very careful to distribute your queries and cover your tracks to prevent them detecting your automated query engine.

**icedemon** · 07-16-2003, 08:11 AM

Here is a actual working link to what the toolbar uses to get the pagerank

Code:

http://216.239.51.104/search?client=navclient-auto&ch=5760693589&

Code:

dq=spider&features=Rank&q=info:http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Espiderman%2Esonypictures%2Ecom%2F

I can't get the url posted here so it shows up right.

If someone can figure out how to get the ch= number, the rest would be real easy to work with. You could even use open proxy servers to cover your tracks and make it look like it's coming from serveral different people.

**michaelw** · 07-16-2003, 08:14 AM

Hello

Ive got software made already that does this

you enter in your urls (unlimited amount, just put em in a text file) and the program will grab the page rank

this is just part of my newest app, a program that checks for expired domains, grabs the pagerank and the dmoz category the url belongs to

If youre interested in the PR program, hit me up

146423631

**kad** · 07-16-2003, 08:15 AM

Originally posted by gornyhuy
Keep us posted on this thing...

If nobody has a solution ready to sell for "tens of thousands of dollars" I'll take a crack at a little "out of the box" approach.

As previously stated, you'd have to be very careful to distribute your queries and cover your tracks to prevent them detecting your automated query engine.

I dont agree. Think about how many queries your machine makes when your surfing. As long as your not doing 100/s per second, you will be fine..

**michaelw** · 07-16-2003, 08:18 AM

Originally posted by icedemon
Here is a actual working link to what the toolbar uses to get the pagerank

Code:

http://216.239.51.104/search?client=navclient-auto&ch=5760693589&

Code:

dq=spider&features=Rank&q=info:http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Espiderman%2Esonypictures%2Ecom%2F

I can't get the url posted here so it shows up right.

If someone can figure out how to get the ch= number, the rest would be real easy to work with. You could even use open proxy servers to cover your tracks and make it look like it's coming from serveral different people.

The CH is the key behind the google toolbar, and pagerank.

ch changes daily, google uses a very strong algorithm to make sure that people cannot grab pageranks without using the toolbar, but i found a way around it

**michaelw** · 07-16-2003, 08:22 AM

Ive got software made already that does this

you enter in your urls (unlimited amount, just put em in a text file) and the program will grab the page rank

this is just part of my newest app, a program that checks for expired domains, grabs the pagerank and the dmoz category the url belongs to

If youre interested in the PR program, hit me up

146423631

**AssFairy** · 07-16-2003, 08:29 AM

Originally posted by funkmaster
... is there anybody that can code a software to batch check on domains pageranks. like I add a list of domains and the software tells me each domains pagerank ??

... too many have failed so far, so is it possible ?

I see a problem with your question...

As I understand it you can't really give a domain a Google PR because each individual page that is indexed has its OWN PR

Your main index page may only have a PR3 but some of its sub pages might have a PR4 or PR5.

**goBigtime** · 07-16-2003, 08:29 AM

Originally posted by michaelw
ch changes daily....

The URL:

http://www.google.com/search?client=...yahoo%2Ecom%2F

Was posted on the 4th of July 2001.

to: http://www.webmasterworld.com/forum3/1057.htm

It still works.

But now you've got me curious.... [wanders off to investigate]

**goBigtime** · 07-16-2003, 08:34 AM

Originally posted by AssFairy

I see a problem with your question...

As I understand it you can't really give a domain a Google PR because each individual page that is indexed has its OWN PR

Your main index page may only have a PR3 but some of its sub pages might have a PR4 or PR5.

Sure, but you would most likely link back to your [MAIN] page from that high ranking page... so if the high rank was a PR9 then the main might be a PR8 (search anybrowser.org for example)

So you could flag anything above PR7, then enter in the root domains & then flag any pages that are listed above the /root in google results.

ie: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&l...8&q=anybrowser

note: looks like anybrowsers "campaign" page finally took a beating... reads 0 PR here.

**vending_machine** · 07-16-2003, 08:42 AM

This page has a form (bottom left) that grabs the PR/LP:

http://bannedstuff.com/

However, it doesn't look like it's working that great anymore..

**michaelw** · 07-16-2003, 08:47 AM

ive already made an app that grabs the pr

hit me up!

**fiveyes** · 07-16-2003, 08:57 AM

Well, the google toolbar does automatically update itself and it seems the checksum algorithm did, in fact, change at least once before (and, with typical google humor, you'd still get results when you used the old codes, they just weren't the correct results

).

There was a program once (about two years ago) that calculated the checksum. It was named "PRMaster" but I doubt you'll find a copy of it unless you went around to some warez sites and trusted what you found there. Good luck with that!

**Brujah** · 07-16-2003, 09:00 AM

Originally posted by michaelw
ive already made an app that grabs the pr

hit me up!

Why don't you just mention the price you want for it ? Whats the big secret ? You do want to sell it don't you ?

**goBigtime** · 07-16-2003, 09:19 AM

Anyone speak french? (lol)

http://www.abc-actu.com/abc-pr.html

**goBigtime** · 07-16-2003, 09:22 AM

actually from the looks of that screenshot, that is an application to TRACK pagerank -- not sure if that's what you're looking to do funkmaster.

I was under the impression you wanted to run checks on 100,000's domains... but maybe you just want to keep tabs on your own domains - which would be A LOT easier.

**lawked** · 07-16-2003, 11:22 AM

**woj** · 07-16-2003, 11:22 AM

If anyone is interested, I can query the google PR for some reasonable price, for example: $5/1000 queries.
If the price is right, I may also be willing to sell the software to do it.
(Price is negotiable, contact me for details, ICQ-33375924)

If anyone wants to see a demo, either post list of urls to be queried or contact me on ICQ.

**rowan** · 07-16-2003, 11:30 AM

Would it be possible to command the browser to load a URL, then passively 'read' the screen to get the PR value? Can Windows programs grab arbitrary chunks of the screen memory to analyse?

**rowan** · 07-16-2003, 11:33 AM

Expanding on my last suggestion... a standard macro program to stuff keystrokes into the keyboard buffer would probably work - enter the url, wait a moment until it and the PR loads, then PrScr, paste to a paint app, save. Then write something to analyse the hundreds of bmp screenshots you've saved.

**vending_machine** · 07-16-2003, 11:39 AM

Originally posted by rowan
Expanding on my last suggestion... a standard macro program to stuff keystrokes into the keyboard buffer would probably work - enter the url, wait a moment until it and the PR loads, then PrScr, paste to a paint app, save. Then write something to analyse the hundreds of bmp screenshots you've saved.

That would be like trying to paint your house using a bicycle as a brush. Not going to happen.

**Mr.Fiction** · 07-16-2003, 11:39 AM

Originally posted by rowan
Would it be possible to command the browser to load a URL, then passively 'read' the screen to get the PR value? Can Windows programs grab arbitrary chunks of the screen memory to analyse?

Anything can be done if you have enough money and find the right programmer.

**lawked** · 07-16-2003, 11:42 AM

I gotta go out but someone post a list of domains that they want done and then we can all stop 'talking' about it and put out

Hurry tho cause I gotta go to fedex so others will have a head start

**lawked** · 07-16-2003, 11:46 AM

Originally posted by Mr.Fiction

Anything can be done if you have enough money and find the right programmer.

How much money do you have?

I'm the right programmer

**cash69** · 07-16-2003, 12:30 PM

it can easily be done.. if there is just a url you goto.. instr out the html and it's done.. the coding should take like 30 mins tops.. if you want a simple ass iface.. could be done in 1 hour..

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