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  • Cameltoepro
    Confirmed User
    • Sep 2012
    • 1526

    #1

    Adobe?

    I have been using Adobe programs for many years. Tired of paying $53 a month and getting constant problems with their software. What would you suggest instead, for programs like Photoshop, Dreamweaver, and premiere?
    Thanks in advance
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  • Grapesoda
    So Fucking Banned
    • Jul 2003
    • 46238

    #2
    Originally posted by Cameltoepro
    I have been using Adobe programs for many years. Tired of paying $53 a month and getting constant problems with their software. What would you suggest instead, for programs like Photoshop, Dreamweaver, and premiere?
    Thanks in advance
    adobe is super problematic however nothing really does a better job for photography.. video I used vegas, there are very many website builders... for me the very best part of not shooting is NOT touching adobe software

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    • EddyTheDog
      Just Doing My Own Thing
      • Jan 2011
      • 25433

      #3
      I know what you mean - I downloaded Dreamweaver after not using it for a few years and I was amazed - It's the biggest pile of shit I have had the misfortune of using!..

      As far as replacements for that go I am using Wappler - It has a high learning curve but is seriously powerful, especially for database/Api integration.....

      As far as the image progs go I use a whole variety of different software that are specialist in what they do - But I am a lightweight on that side of things...

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      • Klen
        • Aug 2006
        • 32235

        #4
        Yes Dreamweaver was great piece of software till they got sold to adobe.

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        • blackmonsters
          Making PHP work
          • Nov 2002
          • 20966

          #5
          I use gimp.



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          • tfto
            GFY and your feelings.
            • Sep 2001
            • 2121

            #6
            Just use an older version of DW and PS.

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            • Cameltoepro
              Confirmed User
              • Sep 2012
              • 1526

              #7
              I have heard of a free product called DaVinci Resolve. Anyone using it?
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              • Grapesoda
                So Fucking Banned
                • Jul 2003
                • 46238

                #8
                Originally posted by blackmonsters
                most people re not willing to deal with a command line unless gimp has changed AND I doubt very seriously you are doing pro-level touch ups

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                • Grapesoda
                  So Fucking Banned
                  • Jul 2003
                  • 46238

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Cameltoepro
                  I have heard of a free product called DaVinci Resolve. Anyone using it?
                  just for video

                  https://www.blackmagicdesign.com/pro...avinciresolve/

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                  • EddyTheDog
                    Just Doing My Own Thing
                    • Jan 2011
                    • 25433

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Grapesoda
                    That's pretty heavy duty stuff - Try https://shotcut.org/ - Free as well and you don't need a super computer to run it...

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                    • SilentKnight
                      Megan Fox's fluffer
                      • Oct 2005
                      • 24818

                      #11
                      Using PS Elements 14 here, along with Ulead PhotoImpact.

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                      • Grapesoda
                        So Fucking Banned
                        • Jul 2003
                        • 46238

                        #12
                        Originally posted by EddyTheDog
                        That's pretty heavy duty stuff - Try https://shotcut.org/ - Free as well and you don't need a super computer to run it...
                        cool....

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                        • Jim_Gunn
                          Confirmed User
                          • Feb 2003
                          • 5702

                          #13
                          I agree- I hate the idea of paying an ongoing subscription for creative software. I subscribed to Adobe Creative Cloud recently for a couple of months just to use Premiere Pro to edit a movie since I was so familiar with it from years ago before it was Pro version even. But I'm cancelling before getting re-billed. I'm actually open to trying Vegas or Davinci Resolve for the first time now if they can work with modern day codecs I would use. For photo editing GIMP is freeware and pretty powerful nowadays with a nice graphical interface.

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                          • Mr Pheer
                            So Fucking Banned
                            • Dec 2002
                            • 22083

                            #14
                            I only pay $20 for Adobe CC. I have a family member that is a university student and she didn't need it, so she let me use her student discount.

                            Maybe that's an idea for some of you.

                            If you have a Mac, there is a software called SetApp that comes with a shitload of useful tools for developers, it $10 a month and it's a bargain.

                            If you're just working with graphics, especially for social media, book covers, t-shirts etc Canva is a good deal for the professional version at $13/month

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                            • EddyTheDog
                              Just Doing My Own Thing
                              • Jan 2011
                              • 25433

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Mr Pheer
                              I only pay $20 for Adobe CC. I have a family member that is a university student and she didn't need it, so she let me use her student discount.

                              Maybe that's an idea for some of you.

                              If you have a Mac, there is a software called SetApp that comes with a shitload of useful tools for developers, it $10 a month and it's a bargain.

                              If you're just working with graphics, especially for social media, book covers, t-shirts etc Canva is a good deal for the professional version at $13/month
                              Canva is great - They have started adding video features as well - 10/10...

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                              • RyuLion
                                • Mar 2003
                                • 32369

                                #16
                                Originally posted by tfto
                                Just use an older version of DW and PS.


                                Originally posted by Jim_Gunn
                                I agree- I hate the idea of paying an ongoing subscription for creative software. I subscribed to Adobe Creative Cloud recently for a couple of months just to use Premiere Pro to edit a movie since I was so familiar with it from years ago before it was Pro version even. But I'm cancelling before getting re-billed. I'm actually open to trying Vegas or Davinci Resolve for the first time now if they can work with modern day codecs I would use. For photo editing GIMP is freeware and pretty powerful nowadays with a nice graphical interface.
                                It's actually worth it if you use it and need it 2-3x a week

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                                • dillfly2000
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                                  • Mar 2012
                                  • 2209

                                  #17
                                  Dreamweaver has been giving problems since day 1.

                                  I downloaded it yesterday.
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                                  • Tubevideditor
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Sep 2013
                                    • 352

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Cameltoepro
                                    I have heard of a free product called DaVinci Resolve. Anyone using it?
                                    Its awesome and way better than Premiere. Even if Premiere was free, I would choose Davinci Resolve.

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                                    • davidCRM
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                                      • Nov 2016
                                      • 1544

                                      #19
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                                      • CurrentlySober
                                        Too lazy to wipe my ass
                                        • Aug 2002
                                        • 38944

                                        #20


                                        Top 8 FREE video editor programs for different needs. The video is a bit dry, but easy to understand and mentions DaVinci and Shotcut. Good overview of your options for video editing.


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                                        • funkypigeon
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Feb 2020
                                          • 350

                                          #21
                                          Have you tried wondershare?

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                                          • Cameltoepro
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Sep 2012
                                            • 1526

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Tubevideditor
                                            Its awesome and way better than Premiere. Even if Premiere was free, I would choose Davinci Resolve.
                                            Yeah just downloaded it. Going to go through the tutorials. Thanks for the info!
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                                            • Cameltoepro
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Sep 2012
                                              • 1526

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by CurrentlySober


                                              Top 8 FREE video editor programs for different needs. The video is a bit dry, but easy to understand and mentions DaVinci and Shotcut. Good overview of your options for video editing.
                                              Thanks Currently Sober.
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                                              • Cameltoepro
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Sep 2012
                                                • 1526

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by funkypigeon
                                                Have you tried wondershare?
                                                Will give that one a look too. Thanks
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                                                • CurrentlySober
                                                  Too lazy to wipe my ass
                                                  • Aug 2002
                                                  • 38944

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Cameltoepro
                                                  Will give that one a look too. Thanks
                                                  Only problem with that, is that unless you use the paid version, you get a HUGE watermark


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                                                  • candyflip
                                                    Carpe Visio
                                                    • Jul 2002
                                                    • 43069

                                                    #26
                                                    Davinci Resolve can replace Premiere, After Effects and Audition if you work with video.

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                                                    • candyflip
                                                      Carpe Visio
                                                      • Jul 2002
                                                      • 43069

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Mr Pheer
                                                      I only pay $20 for Adobe CC. I have a family member that is a university student and she didn't need it, so she let me use her student discount.

                                                      Maybe that's an idea for some of you.

                                                      If you have a Mac, there is a software called SetApp that comes with a shitload of useful tools for developers, it $10 a month and it's a bargain.

                                                      If you're just working with graphics, especially for social media, book covers, t-shirts etc Canva is a good deal for the professional version at $13/month
                                                      That is only good for 3 years they told me last week. I just found out that I've been paying $50+ a month for the past two years, thinking that I was still on my student program (and I'm still a student). It will disappear at some point.

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                                                      • plsureking
                                                        bored
                                                        • Aug 2003
                                                        • 4904

                                                        #28
                                                        there's no substitute for photoshop. you gotta bite the bullet on that one.

                                                        dreamweaver is lame as fuck. learn html or use one of a thousand page builders online. i didn't even know they still sold it lol

                                                        this is the coolest video editor:
                                                        Download Free Video Editor: best software for video editing.

                                                        free version is fully functional, pro version, for $20 a YEAR has tons of extras.

                                                        i used premiere and sony vegas for many years. i switched to vsdc and haven't looked back. you have to learn it, like anything else, but then you can edit video really fast.

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                                                        • Cameltoepro
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Sep 2012
                                                          • 1526

                                                          #29
                                                          Spoke with adobe yesterday...they offered me 3 months free..then only 30 a month after that...going with it..there is a large learning curve for me on davince..so it give me time to learn. Then drop it
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                                                          • Cameltoepro
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                                                            • Sep 2012
                                                            • 1526

                                                            #30
                                                            Spoke with adobe yesterday...they offered me 3 months free..then only 30 a month after that...going with it..there is a large learning curve for me on davince..so it give me time to learn. Then drop it
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                                                            • crockett
                                                              in a van by the river
                                                              • May 2003
                                                              • 76818

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by Klen
                                                              Yes Dreamweaver was great piece of software till they got sold to adobe.
                                                              Macromedia was the shit.. they were the only real competition to adobe.. It's just like in the 3D world audiodesk has bought up so much of their competition.
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                                                              • EddyTheDog
                                                                Just Doing My Own Thing
                                                                • Jan 2011
                                                                • 25433

                                                                #32
                                                                A tip for those that don't have their own Cray Supercomputer at home, you can fire up a Google Cloud Platform Windows instance for just a few cents an hour that will run any of this software - You get $300 free credit when you start your account, so basically it's free for the first year...

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                                                                • Cameltoepro
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • Sep 2012
                                                                  • 1526

                                                                  #33
                                                                  I notice over the years of using Adobe. That the best version always seems the 3 year old versions. The new update and the second year version always loaded with problems. Yet, for some reason when the verson gets to be 3 years old, it all works.
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                                                                  • Applebite Media
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                                                                    • Apr 2018
                                                                    • 406

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Google GIMP. I use it on Linux. Very good! Not quite as good as Photoshop but it's FREE! I dumped windoz at version 7, version 10 came with a computer I purchased and I fucking hate it! Too many adds on software you pay for. Total bullshit. I do keep it though as Linux dose not really have anything that will read my older canon video recorder. Tape and firewire.... the good old days LMAO. Other than that, I switched over to Linux Mint Cinnamon. Damn good OS IMO.

                                                                    KdenLive is decent for video, Vegas Video like. As for Dreamweaver... I use an IDE to code. I use Oracle Netbeans 8.2, I like it better than the new Apache version.

                                                                    They ALL have windows versions if you do not want to switch to Linux and they are still free. Just watch getting from the Microsoft store, they charge for some of these free programs.

                                                                    Hope some of this helps.

                                                                    Originally posted by Cameltoepro
                                                                    I have been using Adobe programs for many years. Tired of paying $53 a month and getting constant problems with their software. What would you suggest instead, for programs like Photoshop, Dreamweaver, and premiere?
                                                                    Thanks in advance
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                                                                    • Cameltoepro
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                                                                      • Sep 2012
                                                                      • 1526

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by Applebite Media
                                                                      Google GIMP. I use it on Linux. Very good! Not quite as good as Photoshop but it's FREE! I dumped windoz at version 7, version 10 came with a computer I purchased and I fucking hate it! Too many adds on software you pay for. Total bullshit. I do keep it though as Linux dose not really have anything that will read my older canon video recorder. Tape and firewire.... the good old days LMAO. Other than that, I switched over to Linux Mint Cinnamon. Damn good OS IMO.

                                                                      KdenLive is decent for video, Vegas Video like. As for Dreamweaver... I use an IDE to code. I use Oracle Netbeans 8.2, I like it better than the new Apache version.

                                                                      They ALL have windows versions if you do not want to switch to Linux and they are still free. Just watch getting from the Microsoft store, they charge for some of these free programs.

                                                                      Hope some of this helps.

                                                                      Thanks for the info
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                                                                      • Applebite Media
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                                                                        • Apr 2018
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                                                                        #36
                                                                        Good luck, hope something works for you
                                                                        Originally posted by Cameltoepro
                                                                        Thanks for the info
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                                                                        • candyflip
                                                                          Carpe Visio
                                                                          • Jul 2002
                                                                          • 43069

                                                                          #37
                                                                          If anyone wants a cheaper than retail Davinci Resolve Studio license, let me know. I've got a whole bunch of them sitting here collecting dust. I'd give someone a good deal.

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                                                                          • Cameltoepro
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                                                                            • 1526

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by candyflip
                                                                            If anyone wants a cheaper than retail Davinci Resolve Studio license, let me know. I've got a whole bunch of them sitting here collecting dust. I'd give someone a good deal.
                                                                            Yeah, Shot me a email [email protected] thnaks
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                                                                            • Applebite Media
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                                                                              • Apr 2018
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                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by candyflip
                                                                              If anyone wants a cheaper than retail Davinci Resolve Studio license, let me know. I've got a whole bunch of them sitting here collecting dust. I'd give someone a good deal.
                                                                              I might be interested. I have tried their demo... had issues with it and their support was not much help.

                                                                              I have an older Canon video camera. It will not pull video from the camera so I have been using Vegas. Even the files I pull from the camera from Vegas would not load in Davinci. Pulling stock video from the web, I was able to play with it a bit. I do like the program and would not mind having a copy... I really want to dump windows altogether. I only use it to pull video. So far all I can find in Linux to do this is a program that is command line driven.

                                                                              I was real hopeful with this software, I like that they have their own consoles as well. Maybe it's time to update my video camera LOL.

                                                                              It been a while since I have been in this forum, do they have private email here? If so, please mail me your terms
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                                                                              Help, HELP!.... Jane, Stop This Crazy Thing!!!!!!

                                                                              Stop renting software!
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                                                                              • candyflip
                                                                                Carpe Visio
                                                                                • Jul 2002
                                                                                • 43069

                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by Applebite Media
                                                                                I might be interested. I have tried their demo... had issues with it and their support was not much help.

                                                                                I have an older Canon video camera. It will not pull video from the camera so I have been using Vegas. Even the files I pull from the camera from Vegas would not load in Davinci. Pulling stock video from the web, I was able to play with it a bit. I do like the program and would not mind having a copy... I really want to dump windows altogether. I only use it to pull video. So far all I can find in Linux to do this is a program that is command line driven.

                                                                                I was real hopeful with this software, I like that they have their own consoles as well. Maybe it's time to update my video camera LOL.

                                                                                It been a while since I have been in this forum, do they have private email here? If so, please mail me your terms
                                                                                It would probably be best for you to just use their free version. Unless you're needing to output 4K DCi files (Free resolve can handle up to UHD) you should have everything you need in the Free version. There's not much the average user won't be able to do with it.

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