How does Swoit convert ?

[elmejor]

I saw many ppl using swoit sig here and I wonder if you promote swoit.com as an affiliate, how is the conversion for you and what of their programs you find more attractive..

[Reak]

there 20$ for a free join converting nice

[funkmaster]

Originally posted by elmejor
I saw many ppl using swoit sig here and I wonder if you promote swoit.com as an affiliate, how is the conversion for you and what of their programs you find more attractive..

... they promote it in their sig because there are $1000 per month to be payed between all spoit sig losers ... go figure.

[elmejor]

Originally posted by funkmaster


... they promote it in their sig because there are $1000 per month to be payed between all spoit sig losers ... go figure.

Well.. i thought they also promote swoit.com, not only the sig program.. so my question is for those that do that too...

[Jimbo]

I have no clue

[Odin88]

I just signed up - hopefully I can tell you some good news soon.

[d0se]

I promoted swoit since the start... program converts great - theres a bunch of payment plan options so you can fine tune your traffic to the program...

Swoit =

They are also marketting geniuses

Dont hate the innovators..

[MrPanama]

Originally posted by d0se
I promoted swoit since the start... program converts great - theres a bunch of payment plan options so you can fine tune your traffic to the program...

Swoit =

They are also marketting geniuses

Dont hate the innovators..

This is the program that spams my emails and is promoted on Warez sites.....Marketing geniuses indeed

[James King]

It amazes me that some idiots so quickly forget the fact that Swoit are spamming cocksuckers.

[funkmaster]

Originally posted by James King
It amazes me that some idiots so quickly forget the fact that Swoit are spamming cocksuckers.

... not to forget that charming greg lasrado is part of their opperation.

[Swoit]

Hi

Hey d0se - good to hear from you again - thanks for the kind words mate

It's a pity that there's so many other people here who just don't have a clue. Greg lasrado has nothing to do with us apart from having some of his sites in Swoit. He's made thousands from it already.


*sigh*


Steve

[James King]

So what about the spamming and the cocksucking? Are you going to deny that too?

[Swoit]

So what about the spamming and the cocksucking? Are you going to deny that too?

Mate it's been talked about and explained until the cows come home. If you were too busy doing your grade 9 homework and missed it, i suggest you use the search function.

Steve

[MrPanama]

Originally posted by Swoit


Mate it's been talked about and explained until the cows come home. If you were too busy doing your grade 9 homework and missed it, i suggest you use the search function.

Steve

Please stop spamming my emails.

[James King]

Here's a trip down memory lane for our eager beaver Swoit promoters:

SWOIT spammed my 10 year old daughter!!!!

Swoit is a fucking sham

Just got SWOIT.COM SPAM.. You little sh*ts...

Swoit is up to W on his email

And I'm sure you suck cock too.

[MrPanama]

Originally posted by funkmaster


... they promote it in their sig because there are $1000 per month to be payed between all spoit sig losers ... go figure.

So what they each get like $4.99? LOL
You idiots are selling your soul to the devil for a Happy Meal

[funkmaster]

Originally posted by Swoit

It's a pity that there's so many other people here who just don't have a clue. Greg lasrado has nothing to do with us apart from having some of his sites in Swoit. He's made thousands from it already.

... adding that to the other couple of hundred thousands he stole from other webmasters, great to have a guy like him associated with your programm ... top class style !!

[eiht_98]

1:91 this month for me

[shermo]

Out come the Swoit drones in full force!

[Swoit]

And I'm sure you suck cock too.

Nah i'll leave that to you.. you sound like you're pretty good at it.
Boy it's way past your bed time. Mummy is going to be upset if she finds you on the computer this late.. HAhahahahaha

So you do know how to use a search function. Wow, you must have passed grade 8 with flying colors. How exciting for you!!

Mrpanama - Hey, don't knock happy meals! They used to be my staple diet going through uni :-)

[Swoit]

... adding that to the other couple of hundred thousands he stole from other webmasters, great to have a guy like him associated with your programm ... top class style !!

Sounds like your beef is with him.

All i know is that he has pretty good members sections and keeps my members happy and retaining for a long time.


Steve

[funkmaster]

Originally posted by Swoit

All i know is that he has pretty good members sections and keeps my members happy and retaining for a long time.


Steve

... I remember the days when his membersection were just a blank page ... mind to post some logins here to see if things have really changed ?

[Swoit]

mind to post some logins here to see if things have really changed ?

Mate, i'd be happy to - but not publically. Sign up and send me your username by email and i'll give you a login so you can look around. (we actually do this as a courtesy for any WM who wants to see Swoit before they promote it)

They definately arent blank sites. They never would have made it past our checking if they were :-)

Steve

[funkmaster]

... he still owes me a lot of money, I don´t think I will come close to anything that´s associated with him before he pays up !!

[Swoit]

he still owes me a lot of money

Really? Ok, well it's a shame you're tarring us with his brush. I'd have really liked to show you around Swoit, but i understand your position.

Steve

[justsexxx]

Maybe swoit is good., maybe not, eitherway I don't use them because I hate the spam, and they use cheap ppl to promote them...Never seen a "bigger" webmaster saying something good about them.

Andre

[elmejor]

Hmm... it look like I started some sort of fight, and was not my intention.. i was just curious..

I found swoit and thought is an interesting and new concept... i know some1 that tried to do something similar but never heard about that program again...

Any way.. i will tell you how good or bad is swoit after i will test them for a while.. cant harm me.. i am already shaved by actual sponsors

[funkmaster]

Originally posted by Swoit


Really? Ok, well it's a shame you're tarring us with his brush.

... no, I think it´s a shame you guys are associated with one of the biggest crooks of the web.

... it was your decission to get him into your boat, no you gotta live with that and from my expirience anything that has lasrado invoved stinks ...

[iwantchixx]

I have checked swoit out when the spammign first started and here are reasons NOT to shake a stick at them


1) You could sign up for the programs yourself and make the sales for yourself.

2) Program owners are losing money.

3) Swoit seems to have an attitude problem.

4) Spammers

5) Taking advantage of newbies laziness

Here are reason you SHOULD use swoit.


.........

[iwantchixx]

Originally posted by Reak
there 20$ for a free join converting nice

Many of the programs in there have $30-35 per free trial as far as I remember. Again, I don't see the point of swoit maybe I'm missing something

[elmejor]

Originally posted by iwantchixx


Many of the programs in there have $30-35 per free trial as far as I remember. Again, I don't see the point of swoit maybe I'm missing something

Well.. they give $30 and convert 1:3000.. is not quite good.. or it is ?!
I dont know what swoit conversion is, and is irrelevant.. the problem was, is and will be DAMN SHAVEING !

[Swoit]

iwantchixx

I think you are missing the point.

You are right - you could sign up to any of those sites and promote them individually through their own affiliate programs. Thats perfectly fine.

The thing is when you promote swoit, and a member signs up, they get access to all the paysites with one subscription. Not just one. That's around 160 paysites now and growing.

That is why we incorporated a recurring component into our $25 payouts (plus $10 recurring) because retention under this model is awesome and webmasters are doing well out of it.

Steve

[iwantchixx]

Originally posted by elmejor


Well.. they give $30 and convert 1:3000.. is not quite good.. or it is ?!
I dont know what swoit conversion is, and is irrelevant.. the problem was, is and will be DAMN SHAVEING !

DO you have proof of shaving? When I was a nebie I thought everybody shaved too, well, if they do, move on or push more sales to get mor emoney. When programs do shave they don't wait until 3k+ clicks to give a sale. they would be retarted to wait that long to give you a sale.

If you have 3k clicks and no sale, either move on, or learn how to sell porn. I get 1:3k on some sites, but just because they don't do well on my traffic base. Another person could do 1:50 with the same amount fo clicks form their own traffic base. I start sending that 3k clicks to another site from the SAME sponsor, and I get 1:42. Go figure.If they were shaving, don't you think I'd get 1:3k on the other site too?

DOn;t be so quick to say "shave" Just work the traffic bettera nd avoid mickey mosue operations liek swoit that want to take advantage of your newness to the biz.

[iwantchixx]

Originally posted by Swoit
iwantchixx

I think you are missing the point.

You are right - you could sign up to any of those sites and promote them individually through their own affiliate programs. Thats perfectly fine.

The thing is when you promote swoit, and a member signs up, they get access to all the paysites with one subscription. Not just one. That's around 160 paysites now and growing.

That is why we incorporated a recurring component into our $25 payouts (plus $10 recurring) because retention under this model is awesome and webmasters are doing well out of it.

Steve

Ok yes, that is a good advantage.. but what about the webmaster programs losing money? gesus, thats 159 potential other sales. Christ, even paysites are giving away free porn now I guess

[Swoit]

Ok yes, that is a good advantage.. but what about the webmaster programs losing money? gesus, thats 159 potential other sales

Huh?

All the paysites in Swoit are still free to run their own sites as they wish. They can still take signups, process through whomever they want, and run their own affiliate programs.

Swoit is just supplimental daily income for them.



Steve

[elmejor]

Don't try to convince me sponsors dont shave.. is useless..
You can call me newbie if u want , but they shave..

If they don't, why they use affiliates scripts with built in shave options ?!
Of course is hard to prouve.. but is a fact.. EVERYBODY SHAVE.. in a way or other..

EG: Legal Shave: some kind of traffic is redirected to dialers, they keep and count only US and other countries traffic.. rest go to dialer.. but webmasters not get a dime from dialer... i call this sahev too.. or steal..

[diesel]

Originally posted by Swoit




Swoit is just supplimental daily income for them.



Steve

How much paysite owner gets from the signup ?

[Swoit]

How much paysite owner gets from the signup ?

We get the total usage (calculated in minutes) that Swoit members spend in each of the sites in swoit each day. Then we work out each site's percentage of the total of all the minutes spent on all sites for the day.

Then we apportion up a chunk of our recurring income to all the paysites.

So in effect, paysites that get lots of Swoit members going to them (and spending time on them) get a bigger slice of the pie. Paysites that are minimal in content will not hold members long and will get a smaller % of the pie.

(Edit: here is a complete list of the paysites that your surfers get access to when they signup: http://www.swoit.com/sitesall.php)

Steve

[iwantchixx]

Not all sponsors shave man, Quit crying. I do VERY well with pibcash, does that mean they don't shave? playboy does fuckall for me, does that mean they do?


no no and no. it just means I am good at selling lesbians for pibcash but horrible at selling plastic babes. Is it possible your not good at selling yet period?

[iwantchixx]

Originally posted by Swoit


We get the total usage (calculated in minutes) that Swoit members spend in each of the sites in swoit each day. Then we work out each site's percentage of the total of all the minutes spent on all sites for the day.

Then we apportion up a chunk of our recurring income to all the paysites.

So in effect, paysites that get lots of Swoit members going to them (and spending time on them) get a bigger slice of the pie. Paysites that are minimal in content will not hold members long and will get a smaller % of the pie.

Steve

Intersting. I was about to ask the same question. I think I am understanding your concept now. The way I was seeing it was that paysites get like a dollar or less per month regardless of all the bandwidth members use.

If the site is really good, they could just pull out a few months down the road and the members would get antsy and sign up at the paysite itself I guess

[elmejor]

well... i dont want to get into details.. as i dont have proves.. but i had enough fishing things with sponsors to feel like they cheat.. maybe not all or not as much.. but they do..

Question:
With same amount of traffic, same traffic source, how can u make this month 300$, next month, after sponsor announce bigger commisions, contests.. etc, make 1600$ and a month after big release back to 200$ ?! Is this just a coincidence ?

[Swoit]

If the site is really good, they could just pull out a few months down the road and the members would get antsy and sign up at the paysite itself I guess

Hey.. shhhhhhhhhhh!!

If they liked only one or two paysites in swoit, yes, they could quit and join them both individually. But then they'd loose access to the hundreds of other sites, PLUS new sites being added etc.

And don't forget, within the hundreds of sites currently in swoit, lots of them update daily/weekly/monthly. They will *never* run out of content, that's our goal.

Steve

[diesel]

Ok so what is a % of that chunk, of your recurring income to all the paysites, that goes to all paysite owners ?

[Swoit]

Ok so what is a % of that chunk, of your recurring income to all the paysites, that goes to all paysite owners ?

We pay 40% of our recurring income to paysites. It's a huge chunk, but then on the other hand, retention is *that* good that it's worth it.

We calculated the cost to join each site individually, and it would cost you over $5,200 MONTHLY to belong to all the sites that Swoit members get access to.


Steve

[iwantchixx]

Originally posted by elmejor
well... i dont want to get into details.. as i dont have proves.. but i had enough fishing things with sponsors to feel like they cheat.. maybe not all or not as much.. but they do..

Question:
With same amount of traffic, same traffic source, how can u make this month 300$, next month, after sponsor announce bigger commisions, contests.. etc, make 1600$ and a month after big release back to 200$ ?! Is this just a coincidence ?

It's called saturation. A new site will convert well. Sponsors give incentives for more slaes by having bonuses and contests, affiliate works harder by pushing more galleries and other sites to push it, then get more sales. A few months go by and surfers have seen the site advertised 324234244234234 times and start ignoring it so sales go down. If the affiliate is a good seller and learned alot during the promotions he won't lose that many sales.

Fuck man, if you need help gettng sales get some. Work the boards for info. Contact recruitment and support webmaters from the programs. I am intersted to know what you were doing to get 1:3k conversions as I have a good idea what youw ere probably doing wrong

[Swoit]

I'll be back later guys - hit me up on ICQ if you have any other questions.


Steve

[elmejor]

Doesn't matter.. i'll not give names.. i did before and was not good... They told me was not ethical.. that post a bad conversion about some1 doeas not mean anything..
Ill also not get into details about saturation or shave.. maybe will talk on icq someday, if u really want to know more about what i do, think and feel
Have a good time here on my post

[iwantchixx]

Originally posted by elmejor
Doesn't matter.. i'll not give names.. i did before and was not good... They told me was not ethical.. that post a bad conversion about some1 doeas not mean anything..
Ill also not get into details about saturation or shave.. maybe will talk on icq someday, if u really want to know more about what i do, think and feel
Have a good time here on my post

I wasen't asking who the sites were that you promoted. I was asking how you got your traffic, If you are just doing tgp galleries then 1:3k is understandable for someone without good sales pitches and designs.

I have brought friends from 1:10k down to 1:500 in a week. Some as far down as 1:50 by showing them alternate avenues of traffic and sales pitches.

[elmejor]

Originally posted by iwantchixx



I wasen't asking who the sites were that you promoted. I was asking how you got your traffic, If you are just doing tgp galleries then 1:3k is understandable for someone without good sales pitches and designs.

I have brought friends from 1:10k down to 1:500 in a week. Some as far down as 1:50 by showing them alternate avenues of traffic and sales pitches.

Yes, i basicaly have TGP, galleries traffic.. as is hard to get listed in good SEs and not have money to buy traffic..
So, if is not a secret, i am interested in alternate avenues of traffic..
If u dont want to talk in public or do it easier, my icq is in profile, but i can repeat it.. 116839832

[diesel]

This program is ripping off all the paysites that are inside.
One good paysite can take all that chunk so rest will get really few cents.. And that good site will get max 40% which is easily to get anyway for good site.
If the member stay the same on all paysite it will be like 40%/160 then its still few cents per member .. and it can be easily 30% instead of 40% ..

This program is for warez sites