British Question

[HairyChick]

I watch Embarrassing Bodies on Netflix and have a question. Why are some doctors called Mr. or Mister and not Dr. or Doctor? Some surgeons are mister or miss and some consultants are doctor.

Looking at penises, vaginas and assholes on tv is definitely odd.

[CurrentlySober]

No idea, but may I, (as a British person) take this opperpoonity to mention that I like poo?

[EddyTheDog]

Surgeons in the UK are generally referred to as Mr...

[balint]

[CurrentlySober]

Surgeons in the UK are generally referred to as Mr...

Plus the NHS is so understaffed, they let anyone have a job, regardless of medical qualifications. These people are able to do anything a doctor can do, such as prescribe medicines, perform examinations and carry out surgeries etc etc, but cant legally call themselves Doctors.

https://www.nuffieldtrust.org.uk/res...rce-in-numbers

https://www.theguardian.com/society/...johnson-survey

[HairyChick]

Plus the NHS is so understaffed, they let anyone have a job, regardless of medical qualifications. These people are able to do anything a doctor can do, such as prescribe medicines, perform examinations and carry out surgeries etc etc, but cant legally call themselves Doctors.

https://www.nuffieldtrust.org.uk/res...rce-in-numbers

https://www.theguardian.com/society/...johnson-survey

It's odd they go to school for a dozen years, earn a doctorate degree, and can't get the respect or title.

"I'm Ms Winter and I'm a thoracic surgeon" or "I'm Dr Winter and I'll be doing your heart surgery." Which sounds more reassuring?!

NHS is mentioned during the program. I've seen most segments at one hospital but they've had segments at other hospitals. Most shown are clean and under-staffed, though. They show some unusual situations! Some guys I feel bad for when large dildoes or objects are stuck up their arses!!

They did a segment on the dental crisis in the country. I've noticed many Brits have poor dental hygiene but they say up to 75% of Brits don't see a dentist. No reason given but I wondered if health insurance covers dentistry.

The woman who gave birth despite having less-than-A-cup breasts -- totally flat -- was eye-opening. The breast cancer survivor who had reconstructive surgery but didn't get an areole or nipple was definitely depressing. The msn with a dick the size of a thumb, the man who lost his hand after sticking it ina shredder, and the guy who got stabbed in the head and came in with a knife in his head ... I watch it during dinner and close my eyes during part of it. They warn you beforehand, luckily.

[rogueteens]

The woman who gave birth despite having less-than-A-cup breasts -- totally flat -- was eye-opening.

Okay, ill ask. Why should having a flat chest stop her from giving birth.

[Rochard]

Surgeons in the UK are generally referred to as Mr...

How interesting is that.... I had no idea.

[redwhiteandblue]

The woman who gave birth despite having less-than-A-cup breasts -- totally flat -- was eye-opening. The breast cancer survivor who had reconstructive surgery but didn't get an areole or nipple was definitely depressing. The msn with a dick the size of a thumb, the man who lost his hand after sticking it ina shredder, and the guy who got stabbed in the head and came in with a knife in his head ... I watch it during dinner and close my eyes during part of it. They warn you beforehand, luckily.

What they don't show you on Embarrassing Bodies are the ones where they went "Arghhhhh Jesus Christ! No sorry we can't help you, you might as well just kill yourself."

[EddyTheDog]

How interesting is that.... I had no idea.

We have loads of weird shit like that in the UK - Most of it is historical - We are very proud of our history...

In most other parts of the world all medical practitioners, physicians and surgeons alike, are referred to as Dr while in the UK surgeons are usually referred to as Mr/Miss/Ms/Mrs. This is because, from the Middle Ages physicians had to embark on formal university training to gain possession of a degree in medicine before they could enter practice. The possession of this degree, a doctorate, entitled them to the title of ‘Doctor of Medicine’ or Doctor.

The training of surgeons until the mid-19th century was different. They did not have to go to university to gain a degree; instead they usually served as an apprentice to a surgeon. Afterwards they took an examination. In London, after 1745, this was conducted by the Surgeons' Company and after 1800 by The Royal College of Surgeons. If successful they were awarded a diploma, not a degree, therefore they were unable to call themselves 'Doctor', and stayed instead with the title 'Mr'.

Outside London and in the largest cities, the surgeon served as an apprentice like many other tradesmen, but did not necessarily take any examination. Today all medical practitioners, whether physicians or surgeons have to undertake training at medical school to obtain a qualifying degree. Thereafter a further period of postgraduate study and training through junior posts is required before full consultant surgeon status is achieved. Thus the tradition of a surgeon being referred to as Mr/Miss/Ms/Mrs has continued, meaning that in effect a person starts as Mr/Miss/Ms/Mrs, becomes a Dr and then goes back to being a Mr/Miss/Ms/Mrs again!

[HairyChick]

Okay, ill ask. Why should having a flat chest stop her from giving birth.

She couldn’t breast feed

Tonight they showed her with new perky nipples after surgery. She looked great despite the fresh scar.

[HairyChick]

What they don't show you on Embarrassing Bodies are the ones where they went "Arghhhhh Jesus Christ! No sorry we can't help you, you might as well just kill yourself."

Lol they can’t fix some people but they treat them. Or rather refer them to others.

[celandina]

I watch Embarrassing Bodies on Netflix and have a question. Why are some doctors called Mr. or Mister and not Dr. or Doctor? Some surgeons are mister or miss and some consultants are doctor.

Looking at penises, vaginas and assholes on tv is definitely odd.

Really an easy answer. You know that Britain maintains traditions, so here it goes..

1) since medieval times English doctors were learned men treating diseases and were called Doctors.

2) surgery was then only known as cutting of limbs, catheterising or sewing wounds on battlefields. These were performed in the early times by anyone who could handle and stomach blood and guts, mainly butchers or older experienced battle worn soldiers...they had then NO medical training and were called Mister since they were not learned men.

In the modern era of course surgeons have even more training then regular doctor but the tradition and pride dictates they continue to call themslevs Misters....it is an actuall badge of honor because if somebody is a suregon and thus a Mister, everyone ( except here ) knows he is educated more then a plain Doctor. So in UK a Mister studies to become a Doctor and then studies more to again become a Mister....purely a British quirk.

And there you have it...