Why models doesn't perform outside?

[bamxo]

I am wondering why all models perform only in their rooms and they are not using their courtyard or other private places?

[pimpmaster9000]

Internet connection and hardware

[Barry-xlovecam]

and privacy factors ...

[bamxo]

Internet connection and hardware

I am sure that a good wi-fi router support streaming very well. Also they can easily install their cams outside.

[bamxo]

and privacy factors ...

Sure, but in their courtyard where let's say anybody could look?

[MiamiBoyz]

Sure, but in their courtyard where let's say anybody could look?

Why bother when you can control the lighting in a bedroom and have a fucking bed to kick back on while you finger your pussy.

[Rochard]

Common sense?

[CaptainHowdy]

[DawnWillow]

Nothing beats the comfort of a bed and pillows. It's much easier to set up and clean up too.

[NatalieK]

no way, i´m always on cam outdoors on my solarium in the sun or outside as much as I can

[minniesoporno]

I am wondering why all models perform only in their rooms and they are not using their courtyard or other private places?

Well no one really wants their neighbours knowing what we are doing.

Some models who have broadcast/performer outside have been arrested.


I like my home base for shows. it creates the college girl, girl friend experience for my viewers and fans.

[CurrentlySober]

Pimp say no to prevent escape

[Paul Markham]

They rarely earn enough to afford a private garden.

Amazed no one hit on the most logical answer.

[EthanJoy]

It's much more comfortable and easier to perform indoors. In order to have a good performance you need to spend quite a lot of hours online so the weather factor can create some problems. When you perform indoors you don't care if it's rainy, snowy, windy or way too hot.
Also wouldn't the microphone capture other sounds like birds singing or wind...?!
And there's also the privacy issue...
From my point of view all these aspects reduce the intimacy that I can create indoors...
But performing outdoors can be an interesting perspective for summer...

[pimpmaster9000]

They rarely earn enough to afford a private garden.

Amazed no one hit on the most logical answer.

You are the Jon Snow of camming...

[Paul Markham]

Unique locations are great sellers. With 99% of girls offering the same or similar location, something like a garden would be a bonus. The problem isn't setting it up.

It's the costs. How many girls or studios have the money to set up a webcam in an outdoor location? It requires a property that isn't overlooked or can be overheard, (can you imagine a neighbour's reaction to a girl orgasming in the garden next door? Every hour.) cables to supply power and Internet. There are such things the problem is they cost $100s or even extra $1,000s a day. Affordable for those shooting recorded porn, unaffordable for webcam. Despite what anyone else says.

They're restricted on price so most need to squeeze as many girls into as smaller space as possible. Even buying/renting premium properties so their girls do look a bit better is beyond their budgets.

How many have a house with girls dedicated to live webcam and not the usual studio setup? And just because they can do it, doesn't mean everyone can.

We content producers have been able to afford to shoot outdoors for decades. Seems webcams can't.

[LovinNothin]

I am wondering why all models perform only in their rooms and they are not using their courtyard or other private places?

Bees. When the bees smell that nectar they will come 'o buzzin.

[Odysseus]

Just try yourself!

[lys11]

Bees. When the bees smell that nectar they will come 'o buzzin.

LOOOL This is more like it why they don't perform outside

[Barry-xlovecam]

I have seen a few girls camming on the fenced in balcony of the apartment.

Privacy is an issue. There are not that many cam models working from home and with enclosed private outdoor areas available to them.

A camgirl can use a laptop on wireless on the patio table to do this. It is not about the quality of the image or the professional 'shoot' -- you just don't get it.

Last night we tested my new 4G live webcast -- it worked for hours but only the front cam of the phones would work. Still this opens the market to millions of potential sex cam performers globally. Also, the chat text auto translator test worked.

The best part -- this new process will use the user's bandwidth -- the whole operation is like a switchboard in the internet cloud -- connecting peers with video, voice and text. So yes, you could do a sex scene in the park bushes and LIVE. Just don't get caught being lewd in a public place. If you don't think wankers will pay good money for this and beat off with the private BYOD smartphone at the desk in their closed private office ... cha ching!

[AndyA]

because the cops frown when your filming people fucking outside

[2MuchMark]

We had 2 models who used to broadcast from outside.

One girl would chat from her backyard. Fenced in so no one could see, etc, but she got caught from her parents and that was the end of that.

Another model used to sit on her front porch in a skit or bikini, and then drop the camera down below the short fence, showing her fingers going to town on her vag', while she just looked around, and tried to contain her excitement. It was pretty cool actually.

Another girl I know broadcasts her live show from her pool. Nothing crazy, just topless. Still fun.

[CurrentlySober]

Here is one performing outside right now!

https://chaturbate.com/jazzmin69papi/

[TheDynasty]

They don't just cam inside there room theirs always cams going outside too

[Paul Markham]

I have seen a few girls camming on the fenced in balcony of the apartment.

Privacy is an issue. There are not that many cam models working from home and with enclosed private outdoor areas available to them.

A camgirl can use a laptop on wireless on the patio table to do this. It is not about the quality of the image or the professional 'shoot' -- you just don't get it.

Last night we tested my new 4G live webcast -- it worked for hours but only the front cam of the phones would work. Still this opens the market to millions of potential sex cam performers globally. Also, the chat text auto translator test worked.

The best part -- this new process will use the user's bandwidth -- the whole operation is like a switchboard in the internet cloud -- connecting peers with video, voice and text. So yes, you could do a sex scene in the park bushes and LIVE. Just don't get caught being lewd in a public place. If you don't think wankers will pay good money for this and beat off with the private BYOD smartphone at the desk in their closed private office ... cha ching!

So why don't Webcam studios organise it?

As for WiFi connections, why not run a cable out to the laptop?

The idea of filming a scene outdoors while a voyeur looks on jerking off is a good idea. I've had it happen in real life twice. The girls thought it was funny they were doing their thing while some guy was jerking off from behind the bushes.

[Barry-xlovecam]

IDK maybe the studios cannot produce it or cannot because of rigid webcam site rules of the sites that they appear/perform on.

Yes, in many cases a $20 Cat cable would do the trick.

I am more interested in the 4G mobile applications -- everyone with a decent mobile device with a cam could become an independent model. Even if the 4G broadcast cam has limited bandwidth available the performance can be transcoded to HLS and rebroadcast from a server (or networked servers).

I think in time OTG will support wired or bluetooth cams at some point in the near future. With a high-end tablet for a few hundred dollars and a $150 webcam you will be able to publish, tech-term for broadcast, a good enough quality webcam stream to be commercially viable.

Right now with a Windows 10 Tablet you can USB attach a logitec cam -- it has the drivers.

A whole new world of decadence is upon us and the market distribution and segmentation is going to change rapidly. Technology and the "Intention Economy" is going to change the game for today's stakeholders.

[NatalieK]

Pimp say no to prevent escape

They rarely earn enough to afford a private garden.

Amazed no one hit on the most logical answer.

you are joking?


Most cam girls earn at least 100 a session, 3 or 4 times a week & it pays a better wage than most on GFY

[Paul Markham]

you are joking?


Most cam girls earn at least 100 a session, 3 or 4 times a week & it pays a better wage than most on GFY

$20,000 a year doesn't buy a model a house with a garden so secluded they can do live shows in. They would need to do it 2-3 times a day. Now if those girls belonged to a studio that was doing decent money. It's possible. The problem is after affiliates, company and models are paid there's not a lot left. I knew people who ran studios, not many made a lot of money.

Spot on about what most of GFY earn.

[pimpmaster9000]

Unique locations are great sellers. With 99% of girls offering the same or similar location, something like a garden would be a bonus. The problem isn't setting it up.

It's the costs. How many girls or studios have the money to set up a webcam in an outdoor location? It requires a property that isn't overlooked or can be overheard, (can you imagine a neighbour's reaction to a girl orgasming in the garden next door? Every hour.) cables to supply power and Internet. There are such things the problem is they cost $100s or even extra $1,000s a day. Affordable for those shooting recorded porn, unaffordable for webcam. Despite what anyone else says.

They're restricted on price so most need to squeeze as many girls into as smaller space as possible. Even buying/renting premium properties so their girls do look a bit better is beyond their budgets.

How many have a house with girls dedicated to live webcam and not the usual studio setup? And just because they can do it, doesn't mean everyone can.

We content producers have been able to afford to shoot outdoors for decades. Seems webcams can't.

Just to remind you that you are the Jon Snow of camming....

[GatorRaved]

Unique locations are great sellers. With 99% of girls offering the same or similar location, something like a garden would be a bonus. The problem isn't setting it up.

It's the costs. How many girls or studios have the money to set up a webcam in an outdoor location? It requires a property that isn't overlooked or can be overheard, (can you imagine a neighbour's reaction to a girl orgasming in the garden next door? Every hour.) cables to supply power and Internet. There are such things the problem is they cost $100s or even extra $1,000s a day. Affordable for those shooting recorded porn, unaffordable for webcam. Despite what anyone else says.

They're restricted on price so most need to squeeze as many girls into as smaller space as possible. Even buying/renting premium properties so their girls do look a bit better is beyond their budgets.

How many have a house with girls dedicated to live webcam and not the usual studio setup? And just because they can do it, doesn't mean everyone can.

We content producers have been able to afford to shoot outdoors for decades. Seems webcams can't.

GatorRaved's opinion is you're salty because "content producers" can't make what a single cam girl can do on their own.

GatorRaved has been using affiliate programs very short time and see models making $1000-$1400 US nearly every day they log on. Many models with their own homes, also like as others have stated above just want to maintain some privacy in personal life or avoid obscenity charges for exposing children to sex.

[SBJ]

They rarely earn enough to afford a private garden.

Amazed no one hit on the most logical answer.

actually, it's not about that. CB these days actually require that you get an approval of your backyards with pictures of it to show CB that it is private enough that neighbors can't see anything.

I know this cause I'm friends with a few cam girls and I was joking about another camgirl a few weeks ago got her backyard/pool approved by CB to cam in. I joked that now I can tip that fine diving board some tokens cause it is looking fine these days.

So it's actually a pain to be able to shoot outdoors cause of the whole library girl stuff.

[SBJ]

top cam models make way more than top pornstars these days cause they don't have talent agencies taking their money or cheap ass producers trying to get her to do DP for the price of a BJ elsewhere.

[GatorRaved]

top cam models make way more than top pornstars these days cause they don't have talent agencies taking their money or cheap ass producers trying to get her to do DP for the price of a BJ elsewhere.

Paul is more comfortable exploiting the girls and doing exactly this.

[mineistaken]

They rarely earn enough to afford a private garden.

Amazed no one hit on the most logical answer.

I guess because that was not the point.
You could paraphrase the question this way then:
out of those who has a private garden why most do from inside (and all those answers apply)

[JesseQuinn]

Now if those girls belonged to a studio that was doing decent money. It's possible

my god you really do love talking out of your ass don't you? please never stop, it's entertaining as hell

top cam models make way more than top pornstars these days cause they don't have talent agencies taking their money

(no disrespect whatsoever to porn stars if that needs stating)

[davidCRM]

i saw models doing shows in their car. while driving.

[INever]

Pimp say no to prevent escape

Bingo, correct

[Paul Markham]

GatorRaved's opinion is you're salty because "content producers" can't make what a single cam girl can do on their own.

GatorRaved has been using affiliate programs very short time and see models making $1000-$1400 US nearly every day they log on. Many models with their own homes, also like as others have stated above just want to maintain some privacy in personal life or avoid obscenity charges for exposing children to sex.

How much do you think a house with a garden private enough to do a cam show in would cost?

I do agree with you about the money today that few content producers can earn on a single shoot what a good cam girl will earn on a good day. Back in the day when content producers made good money flying 5-6 girls to a sunny climate, renting a secluded villa where we could be private enough to shoot porn. Was something we did 3-4 times a year.

[Paul Markham]

actually, it's not about that. CB these days actually require that you get an approval of your backyards with pictures of it to show CB that it is private enough that neighbors can't see anything.

I know this cause I'm friends with a few cam girls and I was joking about another camgirl a few weeks ago got her backyard/pool approved by CB to cam in. I joked that now I can tip that fine diving board some tokens cause it is looking fine these days.

So it's actually a pain to be able to shoot outdoors cause of the whole library girl stuff.

It's not just see anything, they have to be out of earshot. The noise is a big give away.

[Paul Markham]

top cam models make way more than top pornstars these days cause they don't have talent agencies taking their money or cheap ass producers trying to get her to do DP for the price of a BJ elsewhere.

Absolutely. Girls who can promote themselves and deliver what the customer wants do make big money. Just not enough to buy a property that's private enough and can't be overheard.

[Paul Markham]

I guess because that was not the point.
You could paraphrase the question this way then:
out of those who has a private garden why most do from inside (and all those answers apply)

Because the garden has someone living next door who can hear them.

[Paul Markham]

my god you really do love talking out of your ass don't you? please never stop, it's entertaining as hell

How many times have you shot porn outdoors?

[JesseQuinn]

How many times have you shot porn outdoors?

uh, if we're talking self-shot or content shot by peeps I was with rather than some sort of 'crew' more times that I can count and certainly not something I plan on stopping any time soon. also have done and will continue to do outdoor stuff in real time with my clients.

In terms of the style of my work in general and my relationships with my dudes specifically the way I cam is not the norm though; I generally advise that women don't because of the serious social, professional and legal risks involved.

not sure how that relates to my comment about performers finding less and less of a need for middle-peeps though, let alone an affirmative rebuttal to the notion that studios (notorious for their traffic-accumulation ability btw) would even be a side factor in a cammers success

reading your posts it really makes sense that arrogance and ignorance are such close compadres, you seriously can't even fathom that you may have more to learn than to teach about an industry you've never even worked in

fucking crazy. fascinating but also sad as you must miss out on a world of cool stuff

[SBJ]

Absolutely. Girls who can promote themselves and deliver what the customer wants do make big money. Just not enough to buy a property that's private enough and can't be overheard.

I don't get you. First, you agree with me that cam girls can make good money but then you insult them saying they don't make enough for a private garden or whatever..

I'll clue you in not all 18-24-year-old girls care about big yards and private gardens. They are young and like to travel or spend money on other things. I knew a cam girl that said she added up all her trips to work with other cam girls and conventions and she was away from her place a week shy of 3 months last year.

Also, a key thing you are forgetting about camming is the most amount of camgirls and surfers are on at night. Girls don't want to drag out lights, laptops, cams, mics, and toys out at night. Most of the bigger camgirls I know have a dedicated room they cam in and they leave all their stuff in that room set up.

[RyuLion]

Lots of common sense answers.

When ever there's filming outside there's potential issue with neighbors reporting and even filming themselves. Some lighting can be seen from far away.
Some moaning can be heard easily, specially at night.

Big Studios that have their own dedicated buildings, such as AJ Studios have premium rooms that are different than just a normal bed, but I won't say.

[GatorRaved]

How much do you think a house with a garden private enough to do a cam show in would cost?

I do agree with you about the money today that few content producers can earn on a single shoot what a good cam girl will earn on a good day. Back in the day when content producers made good money flying 5-6 girls to a sunny climate, renting a secluded villa where we could be private enough to shoot porn. Was something we did 3-4 times a year.

GatorRaved thinks the price will would be determined by the location.

For instance, Colorado GatorRaved could purchase very large mountain home with extremely nice view, yard, and with private garden for $250k-$350k. If cam person make $100k - $200k+ yearly they would be able to afford 20% down with little to no problem.

People in the industry have been sleeping and want to ignore or refuse to acknowledge these cam people are the ones making the crazy money everyone made "back in the day".