Do Wars Create Wealth?

[mce]

If wars created wealth, the US GDP would far outstrip the average 2% rate of the past 8 years. After all, during the past 8 years, the US has been at war (impacting a total of at least 7 countries)

[Barry-xlovecam]

2% what a chump ...

[mce]

2% what a chump ...

Around there. Some years higher than 2 (but below 3) and some years below 2.

[pimpmaster9000]

Yes they make billions for a few cronies and cost Americans out of the ass...Like 200.000 per taxpayer since Vietnam...All this for a continent nobody plans to invade...It's all presented under a thin veneer of keeping people safe but is terrorism and a classic global protection racket...

[GFED]

yes, and keep stacking.

[Barry-xlovecam]

The chump economy grew 2%
GDP is just the average.
That guy is full of shit.

Another limey telling me about my country -- pompous ass.

The UK lost its British Empire and ended up with a little island with a bunch of inbred asses with bad teeth telling the fuckin' world how great they are.

Real shit is my dad and a few million other yanks saved your asses from Hitler. Pompous assholes.

The sun set on the British Empire in 1949

[mce]

yes, and keep stacking.

You sure about that, bro?

[MaDalton]

Steven Bannon thinks so - and THAT should worry you

[GFED]

You sure about that, bro?

from looking at the charts. yes. (DX failed breakout and EUR/USD at support trendline)
BUT
1. anything is possible
2. things take time

[Rochard]

After all, during the past 8 years, the US has been at war (impacting a total of at least 7 countries)

Who are we at war with? Did I miss something?

[Look Chang]

The true winners are weapons manufacturers

[Jigster715]

The true winners are weapons manufacturers

And those of us who invest in them.

[mce]

Steven Bannon thinks so - and THAT should worry you

Is Steve Bannon chtulu?

[mce]

Who are we at war with? Did I miss something?

In different phases: Iraq, Afghanistan and 5 other countries.

[Paul Markham]

Wars create wealth for the few.

[Barry-xlovecam]

Bannon is so full of shit.
Hitler used 'his supposed' Lutheran version of Christianity and his bullshit racial purity and nationalistic destiny of the German Reich Nazi State to rally the support of the German people -- who then committed war crimes and crimes against humanity.

Bannon will end up rotting in prison just like Eichmann and Haldeman did who were Nixon's demons.


Martin Luther said "let us follow the advice of Christ and shake the dust from our shoes, and say, 'We are innocent of your blood.'"[23]

[Rochard]

In different phases: Iraq, Afghanistan and 5 other countries.

Really? When did we declare war?

How many troops do we have in Iraq right now? The last report I could find was less than five thousand. It's surely less now. That's not a war. I have nearly as many troops stationed up the road from me at an Air Force Base.

We have nine thousand troops in Afghanistan. During 2016 the United States lost 14 lives in Afghanistan. In 2017 to date we've lost none.

Just to compare deaths.... In Afghanistan since 2001 we've lost 2300 men. In Vietnam in one year (1968) we lost 16,899 men.

We are not at war with anyone.

[beerptrol]

Ask the ceos of the companies the make and sell us weapons. Billions if not trillions of dollars spent on weapons/equipment that don't work right and go over budget wasting money. But its all good
Trump wants to expand the military which is code for buying more of these weapons we don't need but is going to cost us big time


the politicians would rather focus on welfare which is chump change compared to what those military contracts fleece us for.

Then again there are no lobbyist putting money in their pockets and paying them off when it comes to welfare

[Barry-xlovecam]

fkn spell ck

like John Ehrlichman and Haldeman did who were Nixon's demons.

[directfiesta]

ask him....

[pimpmaster9000]

Let's not forget the billions made after the war when US installed governments cut deals with their owners...Wesley Clark is a billionaire and Clinton owns 3/4 of Kosovo Telekom...But the Kosovo PM is off the hook for human organ trafficking now Madeleine allbright is in on the Telekom deal...How convenient LOL

[mce]

So much for the myth of WW2 getting the US out of the Great Depression.

[AmeliaG]

Wars create wealth or at least transfer it, but the wealth does not exactly always go evenly to the citizens of the "winning" country.

[brassmonkey]

ask him....

yep he runs the middle east contract on military supplies

[Barry-xlovecam]

discuss LMAO
Millions had war production jobs also

He is SOOO full of shit

[brassmonkey]

oh i forgot the weapon makers the uniforms and all that other shit including medical supplies

[Steve Rupe]

In different phases: Iraq, Afghanistan and 5 other countries.

Military engagements, not war. The US has not engaged in war since WWII ended.

[Barry-xlovecam]

My uncles on my mothers side were in the CCC
"The Civilian Conservation Corps (CCC) was a public work relief program that operated from 1933 to 1942 in the United States for unemployed, unmarried men from relief families as part of the New Deal."
They ALL got jobs after Perl Harbor with General MacArthur ...

My Grandfather on my father's side owned a garment factory -- they made war uniforms for 4 years -- government contracts.

Sammy Wolfe and Nicky the Fish -- two of the old Purple Gang guys I met made a fortune selling tires on the black market.

Fucking idiots buy all the bullshit on Youtube LMFAO

[Steve Rupe]

Bannon is so full of shit.
Hitler used 'his supposed' Lutheran version of Christianity and his bullshit racial purity and nationalistic destiny of the German Reich Nazi State to rally the support of the German people -- who then committed war crimes and crimes against humanity.

Bannon will end up rotting in prison just like Eichmann and Haldeman did who were Nixon's demons.


Martin Luther said "let us follow the advice of Christ and shake the dust from our shoes, and say, 'We are innocent of your blood.'"[23]

Eichmann never worked for Nixon but Ehrlichman did. Neither Haldeman or Ehrlichman rotted in prison. Both served 18 months.

[Steve Rupe]

Let's not forget the billions made after the war when US installed governments cut deals with their owners...Wesley Clark is a billionaire and Clinton owns 3/4 of Kosovo Telekom...But the Kosovo PM is off the hook for human organ trafficking now Madeleine allbright is in on the Telekom deal...How convenient LOL

What ever gave you the idea that General Clark is a "billionaire"?

[BestOnlinesex]

during the past 8 years, the US has been at war (impacting a total of at least 7 countries)

Hasn't the US been at war since WWII?

[BestOnlinesex]

Military engagements, not war. The US has not engaged in war since WWII ended.

What's your definition of war?
I count:
Cold war (ok this one might be a stretch)
Vietnam
Panama
1st Gulf war
Bosnia
Kosovo
Afghanistan
Iraq
Pakistan
Libya

[Steve Rupe]

What's your definition of war?
I count:
Cold war (ok this one might be a stretch)
Vietnam
Panama
1st Gulf war
Bosnia
Kosovo
Afghanistan
Iraq
Pakistan
Libya

None of those were wars. Only Congress can declare war and the declaration of war has legal ramifications and places the entire nation on a war time footing. Congress has not declared war since WWII. All of those were military engagements and for the most part, minor military engagements. BTW, you forgot Korea.

[ruff]

Of course wars create wealth. Check your history books. The US has been in various wars since WW2 and the Republicans are cumming in their panties right now with fresh plans for more wars. Get out the popcorn and hide your children. The oligarchs get richer and we get fucked. I'm surprised more of you can't see that.

By the way, the definition of war that I am using? It's when the USA sends our children somewhere with weapons to kill other children while the old white men stay home and get fatter and richer. You will never see the orange idiot lead a platoon into harms way. Never.

[Barry-xlovecam]

Eichmann never worked for Nixon but Ehrlichman did. Neither Haldeman or Ehrlichman rotted in prison. Both served 18 months.

I corrected that SPELL CHECK ERROR

You go do 18 months LMAO talking shit
i was speaking figuratively -- Rudolf Hess rotted
Haldeman, Ehrlichman and Nixon should have been hung till dead in a fair world.

It is not a fair world ...

Eichmann worked for Hitler he was hanged about midnight May 31, 1962 in Israel. Some get what they deserve and others do not. Nixon is responsible for the needless death of many thousands in Vietnam including over 10,000 US soldiers all for the sake of making money -- so the question was do wars create wealth...

Wars create wealth transfers and death and debt. Anyone educated knows that

[BestOnlinesex]

None of those were wars. Only Congress can declare war and the declaration of war has legal ramifications and places the entire nation on a war time footing. Congress has not declared war since WWII. All of those were military engagements and for the most part, minor military engagements. BTW, you forgot Korea.

Good point for Korea.

I see your point now, but it remains very lexical.
I am pretty sure OP included military engagements in his question.

[beerptrol]

call it what you want. war, conflict, military action.
Someone is making money off of it

[directfiesta]

What's your definition of war?
I count:
Cold war (ok this one might be a stretch)
Vietnam
Panama
1st Gulf war
Bosnia
Kosovo
Afghanistan
Iraq
Pakistan
Libya

damn ... you forgot ..... GRENADA !!!!!

[ruff]

damn ... you forgot ..... GRENADA !!!!!

and you forgot Kent State.

[Barry-xlovecam]

My cousin was one of the medical students 'saved' by the 'intervention' in Grenada. Grenada was an international military police raid more or less -- the intervention in Grenada was not a war.

[pimpmaster9000]

What ever gave you the idea that General Clark is a "billionaire"?

oh I am glad you asked he owns rights to mine 3/4 of kosovo the deposits are enough for the next 200 years he is a 4 star general but now works as the "main adviser"

People – Envidity Energy Inc.

or simply google "wesley clark kosovo coal monopoly"

how convenient?...google also "madelen allbright kosovo telekom"

their puppet government is put in place by the cronies and they get very rich...a 200 year mineral supply and monopoly sounds like mucho $$$$ eh?

[BestOnlinesex]

My cousin was one of the medical students 'saved' by the 'intervention' in Grenada. Grenada was an international military police raid more or less -- the intervention in Grenada was not a war.

It's also the reason why Grant killed Telford

[Rochard]

What's your definition of war?
I count:
Cold war (ok this one might be a stretch)
Vietnam
Panama
1st Gulf war
Bosnia
Kosovo
Afghanistan
Iraq
Pakistan
Libya

There is a difference between a war, a military conflict, and a police action.

Vietnam and Gulf Wars were clearly wars, even if war was not officially declared.

Some of the countries on this list we've never had troops in, such as Pakistan or Libya. (A raid by a handful of troops to snatch a single person is clearly not a war or even a military police action - it's a raid.)

[ruff]

There is a difference between a war, a military conflict, and a police action.

Vietnam and Gulf Wars were clearly wars, even if war was not officially declared.

Some of the countries on this list we've never had troops in, such as Pakistan or Libya. (A raid by a handful of troops to snatch a single person is clearly not a war or even a military police action - it's a raid.)

When you are a dead soldier, there is no difference.

[directfiesta]

My cousin was one of the medical students 'saved' by the 'intervention' in Grenada. Grenada was an international military police raid more or less -- the intervention in Grenada was not a war.

as one poster pointed out , the US has been in NO ''WAR'' since WW2 ( aside from the war on drugs, war on terror , war on women ).

Here how Grenada is called:

The Invasion of Grenada was a 1983 United States?led invasion of the Caribbean island nation of Grenada, codenamed Operation Urgent Fury

They even did a movie with Clint Eastwood ....

Really, invading GRENADA ....