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  • mce
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    • Jun 2012
    • 3915

    #1

    Google now indexing HTTPS by default

    https://www.seroundtable.com/google-...ult-21362.html

    Wake up call for those who haven't made the switch to https for their online properties.

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  • epitome
    So Fucking Lame
    • Jun 2009
    • 12156

    #2
    I've been running HTTPS Everywhere extension for so long that I forgot the web had http.

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    • $money$
      So Fucking Banned
      • Nov 2015
      • 1416

      #3
      Originally posted by epitome
      I've been running HTTPS Everywhere extension for so long that I forgot the web had http.

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      • MakeMeGrrrrowl
        Grrrrrrrrr
        • Oct 2002
        • 4986

        #4
        So then they just want you to have a secure domain and that takes precedence?

        I did that this year!!! So yeahhhhh! Woo hoo.

        Now I just gotta get with the times and be mobile ready.

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        • clickity click
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          • Aug 2014
          • 3682

          #5
          Is this recommended for all websites or just those with a database / those that have a members area etc.
          For example if I have a 20 page, static HTML info page would that need to be https?

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          • Ferus
            Bye - Left to do stuff
            • Feb 2013
            • 4108

            #6
            Originally posted by clickity click
            Is this recommended for all websites or just those with a database / those that have a members area etc.
            For example if I have a 20 page, static HTML info page would that need to be https?
            If it makes you more than $200 a year and you consider it a valuable domain you want to grow the value of? then yes

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            • clickity click
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              • Aug 2014
              • 3682

              #7
              Originally posted by Ferus
              If it makes you more than $200 a year and you consider it a valuable domain you want to grow the value of? then yes
              Well it's an info site so it doesn't make me anything.
              I'm not bothered about growing the value of it either.

              What I do want though is it to remain and improve in the Google rankings. It currently does well, I wish for that to continue.

              I am guessing Google want to protect users search queries rather that protecting supplied credentials to a DB.
              That's why they are moving to HTTPS. Therefore I will be making the switch although I don't like not being able to snoop on my visitors search queries in Statcounter.

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              • clickity click
                So Fecking Bummed
                • Aug 2014
                • 3682

                #8
                Also, if you Google "google https"

                It looks like the top indexed sites such as

                Are not using https

                So, based on these results I am not so sure.

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                • clickity click
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                  • Aug 2014
                  • 3682

                  #9
                  Originally posted by clickity click
                  Also, if you Google "google https"

                  It looks like the top indexed sites such as



                  Are not using https

                  So, based on these results I am not so sure.
                  Fucking stupid forum converting URL's to links. I just wanted to post the direct link so you could see that they are http, not https. Now you will need to mouseover.
                  I even tried putting in a quote and it still fucked it up.

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                  • xxxjay
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                    • Aug 2002
                    • 13482

                    #10
                    Because it can be old little bit cost prohibitive, I would definitely do it on my "money sites"... If you had some feeders, I don't know that it would be worth the money
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                    • CPA-Rush
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                      • Mar 2012
                      • 4927

                      #11
                      Originally posted by clickity click
                      Fucking stupid forum converting URL's to links. I just wanted to post the direct link so you could see that they are http, not https. Now you will need to mouseover.
                      I even tried putting in a quote and it still fucked it up.
                      i want to be nice with u ..but please stop being fucking idiot !! what u was looking for ?

                      https sites ?? because u did google this term "google https" ??? those sites don't have this protocal how fucking google will hand it to u?


                      and to put urls , u do it like that .

                      Code:
                      http://qz.com/246441/what-is-https-and-why-does-google-like-it-so-much/

                      fuck

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                      • NatalieK
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by CPA-Rush
                        i want to be nice with u ..but please stop being fucking idiot !! what u was looking for ?

                        https sites ?? because u did google this term "google https" ??? those sites don't have this protocal how fucking google will hand it to u?


                        and to put urls , u do it like that .

                        Code:
                        http://qz.com/246441/what-is-https-and-why-does-google-like-it-so-much/

                        fuck
                        ok, thanks for the link, now I understand what https is, how do you make your pages https please?
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                        • MakeMeGrrrrowl
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                          • Oct 2002
                          • 4986

                          #13
                          Originally posted by GspotProductions
                          ok, thanks for the link, now I understand what https is, how do you make your pages https please?
                          You have to get an SSL certificate.

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                          • blackmonsters
                            Making PHP work
                            • Nov 2002
                            • 20961

                            #14
                            Google's moves may be helping some people but I feel like the search results aren't as good as they used to be.

                            Seems like the more stuff they add or tweak the less I like the search results.
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                            • NatalieK
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                              • Apr 2010
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by MakeMeGrrrrowl
                              You have to get an SSL certificate.
                              ahh ok, thanks
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                              • mce
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                                • Jun 2012
                                • 3915

                                #16
                                Originally posted by blackmonsters
                                Google's moves may be helping some people but I feel like the search results aren't as good as they used to be.

                                Seems like the more stuff they add or tweak the less I like the search results.
                                I think they may have reached the point of diminishing returns. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diminishing_returns

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                                • TheSenator
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                                  • Feb 2003
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                                  #17
                                  Does it even matter for adult sites?
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                                  • clickity click
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                                    • Aug 2014
                                    • 3682

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by MakeMeGrrrrowl
                                    You have to get an SSL certificate.
                                    So what's this https anywhere?

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                                    • clickity click
                                      So Fecking Bummed
                                      • Aug 2014
                                      • 3682

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by CPA-Rush
                                      i want to be nice with u ..but please stop being fucking idiot !! what u was looking for ?

                                      https sites ?? because u did google this term "google https" ??? those sites don't have this protocal how fucking google will hand it to u?


                                      and to put urls , u do it like that .

                                      Code:
                                      http://qz.com/246441/what-is-https-and-why-does-google-like-it-so-much/

                                      fuck
                                      Why you mad bro?

                                      You obviously didn't understand.

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                                      • XSAXS
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                                        • Nov 2004
                                        • 652

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by TheSenator
                                        Does it even matter for adult sites?
                                        PornHub
                                        Beeg
                                        RedTube
                                        YouPorn
                                        Porn.com
                                        XVideos
                                        XNXX

                                        None of them are using https. So I don't think it matters for porn (yet). I suppose it could theoretically give a little bump in the SERPs. But none of the above are relying on it to achieve their own rankings.

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                                        • CPA-Rush
                                          small trip to underworld
                                          • Mar 2012
                                          • 4927

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by clickity click
                                          Why you mad bro?

                                          You obviously didn't understand.
                                          sorry, i'm not angry now .

                                          what was your point ?

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                                          • clickity click
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                                            • Aug 2014
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                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by CPA-Rush
                                            sorry, i'm not angry now .

                                            what was your point ?
                                            Give me a hug.

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                                            • CPA-Rush
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                                              • Mar 2012
                                              • 4927

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by clickity click
                                              Give me a hug.
                                              hug sent over secure https .

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                                              • clickity click
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                                                • Aug 2014
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                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by CPA-Rush
                                                hug sent over secure https .
                                                Hug received - (keywords unavailable)

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                                                • MakeMeGrrrrowl
                                                  Grrrrrrrrr
                                                  • Oct 2002
                                                  • 4986

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by clickity click
                                                  So what's this https anywhere?
                                                  I don't understand? Is it really possible you don't know what a secure certificate is? Or are you just kidding me?

                                                  If you go to facebook you will see it's https facebook . com not http it's green and has a lock on the browser.

                                                  That tells you the site is secure, encrypted, all that bullshit.

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                                                  • CPA-Rush
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                                                    • Mar 2012
                                                    • 4927

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by clickity click
                                                    Hug received
                                                    nice very happy our message has been protected against middle man attacks.

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                                                    • clickity click
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                                                      • Aug 2014
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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by CPA-Rush
                                                      nice very happy our messages has been protected against middle man attacks.
                                                      Yah, fuck them middlemen like MakeMeGrrrrowl.

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                                                      • MakeMeGrrrrowl
                                                        Grrrrrrrrr
                                                        • Oct 2002
                                                        • 4986

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by CPA-Rush
                                                        nice very happy our messages has been protected against middle man attacks.
                                                        Very freeking gay if you ask me.

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                                                        • clickity click
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                                                          • Aug 2014
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                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by MakeMeGrrrrowl
                                                          I don't understand? Is it really possible you don't know what a secure certificate is? Or are you just kidding me?

                                                          If you go to facebook you will see it's https facebook . com not http it's green and has a lock on the browser.

                                                          That tells you the site is secure, encrypted, all that bullshit.
                                                          Au contraire MMG, I know exactly what an SSL is and I know exactly what HTTPS is.
                                                          As previously posted though I googled HTTPS GOOGLE and got a bunch of news sites, listed on Page #1 for the search term HTTPS GOOGLE.
                                                          None of those sites actually used HTTPS despite talking about security.

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                                                          • CPA-Rush
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                                                            • Mar 2012
                                                            • 4927

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by MakeMeGrrrrowl
                                                            Very freeking gay if you ask me.
                                                            ..............

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                                                            • gnawledge
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                                                              • Jul 2012
                                                              • 1092

                                                              #31
                                                              I bought an SSL for a celebrity site I run and it didn't help worth a shit. It actually dropped me 500+ visitors a day for some reason. It isn't a special site or anything worth a hoot, but traffic is traffic. I could see pay sites even before you get to sign up part needing an SSL. A measly tube site? Or a blog to be treated like royalty to the holy Google? Fuck that shit.
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                                                              • MakeMeGrrrrowl
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                                                                • Oct 2002
                                                                • 4986

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by clickity click
                                                                Au contraire MMG, I know exactly what an SSL is and I know exactly what HTTPS is.
                                                                As previously posted though I googled HTTPS GOOGLE and got a bunch of news sites, listed on Page #1 for the search term HTTPS GOOGLE.
                                                                None of those sites actually used HTTPS despite talking about security.
                                                                Maybe they haven't made the change yet. I just know my site is https, not for any other reason than I needed a secure site so if it's true, awesome, if it doesn't matter then awesome too.

                                                                The article was just written, give it time.

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                                                                • mce
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                                                                  • Jun 2012
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  I suspect there will be nastier surprises come 2016 c/o Google.

                                                                  PBN's might be problematic....

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                                                                  • xxxjay
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                                                                    • Aug 2002
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by mce
                                                                    I suspect there will be nastier surprises come 2016 c/o Google.

                                                                    PBN's might be problematic....
                                                                    PBN's are already done. I already know work around
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                                                                    • mce
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                                                                      • Jun 2012
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by xxxjay
                                                                      PBN's are already done. I already know work around
                                                                      You can get around a dropped domain filter?

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                                                                      • xxxjay
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                                                                        • Aug 2002
                                                                        • 13482

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by mce
                                                                        You can get around a dropped domain filter?
                                                                        I never did the dropped domain thing. I know that a lot of PBN guys are big on that. I saw it for what it was, it was an exploit that would work for only a limited period of time and them would be a big footprint issue later.

                                                                        I was able to rank for "Charlie Sheen HIV" with the domain I'd only bought a few hours before. That was proved to me that in 2015 that expired domains aren't what they used to be
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                                                                        • Denny
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                                                                          • Feb 2005
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                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by gnawledge
                                                                          I bought an SSL for a celebrity site I run and it didn't help worth a shit. It actually dropped me 500+ visitors a day for some reason. It isn't a special site or anything worth a hoot, but traffic is traffic. I could see pay sites even before you get to sign up part needing an SSL. A measly tube site? Or a blog to be treated like royalty to the holy Google? Fuck that shit.

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                                                                          • xxxjay
                                                                            Tube groupie.
                                                                            • Aug 2002
                                                                            • 13482

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by Denny
                                                                            I thought about this a lot and this is my conclusion. Google is a publicly held company. It is the officers fiduciary responsibility to make that company grow every year. What Google can be taking in on search is basically maxed out. They aren't going to sell X% more adwords to satisfy investors.

                                                                            Google is now primarily in the INFORMATION BUSINESS...
                                                                            https://cloud.google.com/bigquery/

                                                                            The big reason they want to move to the https encryption is because they will among the few people with the keys.

                                                                            http://donttellmehowtoruinmylife.com/ - http://www.jmdigitalmarketing.com/my...s-and-reviews/ - http://www.wouldyouhitit.org - http://shinyobjectreviews.com/

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                                                                            • GLMBV
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                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by gnawledge
                                                                              I bought an SSL for a celebrity site I run and it didn't help worth a shit. It actually dropped me 500+ visitors a day for some reason. It isn't a special site or anything worth a hoot, but traffic is traffic. I could see pay sites even before you get to sign up part needing an SSL. A measly tube site? Or a blog to be treated like royalty to the holy Google? Fuck that shit.
                                                                              Same here, we've read about this so we decided to test it and we switched a couple of domains from http to https and they definitely lost a lot of rankings in google..
                                                                              Kinda looks like google is treating them like new sites. Hoping rankings will be restored but for now we say f*ck switching to https

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                                                                              • freecartoonporn
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                                                                                • Jan 2012
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                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by gnawledge
                                                                                I bought an SSL for a celebrity site I run and it didn't help worth a shit. It actually dropped me 500+ visitors a day for some reason. It isn't a special site or anything worth a hoot, but traffic is traffic. I could see pay sites even before you get to sign up part needing an SSL. A measly tube site? Or a blog to be treated like royalty to the holy Google? Fuck that shit.
                                                                                Originally posted by GLMBV
                                                                                Same here, we've read about this so we decided to test it and we switched a couple of domains from http to https and they definitely lost a lot of rankings in google..
                                                                                Kinda looks like google is treating them like new sites. Hoping rankings will be restored but for now we say f*ck switching to https
                                                                                you guys forced https ?
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                                                                                • 3xmedia
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                                                                                  • Apr 2004
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                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  yep, it can more harm than help in many cases... I mostly run niche tubes and porn blogs... not going to switch unless it's absolutely necessary.
                                                                                  ---

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                                                                                  • GLMBV
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                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by freecartoonporn
                                                                                    you guys forced https ?
                                                                                    Yes permanent redirect port 80 to https

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                                                                                    • PornSEO
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                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by mce
                                                                                      https://www.seroundtable.com/google-...ult-21362.html

                                                                                      Wake up call for those who haven't made the switch to https for their online properties.
                                                                                      Yea... It's now official.
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                                                                                      • freecartoonporn
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                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by GLMBV
                                                                                        Yes permanent redirect port 80 to https
                                                                                        then this is what caused traffic drop. if your ssl uses sni
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                                                                                        • Barry-xlovecam
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                                                                                          • Jun 2010
                                                                                          • 18083

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by xxxjay
                                                                                          I thought about this a lot and this is my conclusion. Google is a publicly held company. It is the officers fiduciary responsibility to make that company grow every year. What Google can be taking in on search is basically maxed out. They aren't going to sell X% more adwords to satisfy investors.

                                                                                          Google is now primarily in the INFORMATION BUSINESS...
                                                                                          https://cloud.google.com/bigquery/

                                                                                          The big reason they want to move to the https encryption is because they will among the few people with the keys.

                                                                                          That's interesting only if it can take Google's own transactional data provided to you, (i.e.; the encrypted search strings with keywords from Google-Analytics , ) and then you could correlate the paths (transactional analysis) to your specific URI's.

                                                                                          Data Mining with nosql is old hat already AWS cloud has had this service for a few years now -- Google is just playing catch-up with some added value code availability.
                                                                                          https://cloud.google.com/datastore/
                                                                                          https://cloud.google.com/prediction/
                                                                                          https://cloud.google.com/s/results?q...Fdocs%2Fpython

                                                                                          In any event, this has nothing to do with the mantra for https.
                                                                                          • OAuth, SSO and other sign-ins should be in https
                                                                                          • ecommerce activities should be in https
                                                                                          • in https ONLY the path and parameters are encrypted -- server addresses are in plain text


                                                                                          https does prevent DNS *spoofing in most cases*

                                                                                          https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest/
                                                                                          check your (or your bank's) https^

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                                                                                          • mce
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                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Originally posted by xxxjay
                                                                                            I thought about this a lot and this is my conclusion. Google is a publicly held company. It is the officers fiduciary responsibility to make that company grow every year. What Google can be taking in on search is basically maxed out. They aren't going to sell X% more adwords to satisfy investors.

                                                                                            Google is now primarily in the INFORMATION BUSINESS...
                                                                                            https://cloud.google.com/bigquery/

                                                                                            The big reason they want to move to the https encryption is because they will among the few people with the keys.

                                                                                            I think you may be on to something. GOOG has been under a lot of pressure from the evolution of FB. They need to take search to a totally different direction or they will become irrelevant in the raging battle for traffic and content consumption. So far, GOOG is showing signs of erosion against mobile apps and social traffic.

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                                                                                            • anexsia
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                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Originally posted by 3xmedia
                                                                                              yep, it can more harm than help in many cases... I mostly run niche tubes and porn blogs... not going to switch unless it's absolutely necessary.
                                                                                              That's because some people here are using HTTPS for all the wrong reasons and it's not going to magically make your website shoot up on Google. Just focus on making great websites and keeping your visitors happy.

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                                                                                              • xxxjay
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                                                                                                • Aug 2002
                                                                                                • 13482

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Do you guys remember her Mobilegeddon from a new months ago? I haven't seen that much of a dramatic effect on the SERPS yet... I wouldn't be rushing out and buying HTTPS
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                                                                                                • mce
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                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  Originally posted by gnawledge
                                                                                                  I bought an SSL for a celebrity site I run and it didn't help worth a shit. It actually dropped me 500+ visitors a day for some reason. It isn't a special site or anything worth a hoot, but traffic is traffic. I could see pay sites even before you get to sign up part needing an SSL. A measly tube site? Or a blog to be treated like royalty to the holy Google? Fuck that shit.
                                                                                                  The game is definitely changing... quickly.

                                                                                                  I suspect, based on noises Google and blackhat forums have been making, that something BIG is going to happen in 2016 in terms of algos.

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                                                                                                  • incredibleworkethic
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                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    I'll let you guys know how this works out for me. I'm just doing this on one site.

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