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  • Sunny Day
    Confirmed User
    • Dec 2010
    • 1406

    #1

    PHP Question

    I have a PHP question.

    I paid a guy to do a web site in PHP and he got it 1/2 done and disappeared on me. The site was OK, but I couldn't edit anything. On each page there were small pictures with descriptive text next to the picture. The text was 10 point black Arial. There was no way to change color, size or font. Also you couldn't have paragraph breaks. Reminds me of an old database memo field.

    I know have a guy writing the site in WordPress an assures me I can have all I desire in the text.

    At some later date when the site is generating revenue I want to go back to PHP. However the new guy knows nothing of PHP. Can PHP do it all? Was the guy I hired not that good at PHP or am I stuck with boring descriptions?

    Thanks for any answers
  • Miguel T
    ♦ Web Developer ♦
    • May 2005
    • 12473

    #2
    Wordpress is PHP

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    • edgeprod
      Permanently Gone
      • Mar 2004
      • 10019

      #3
      You can add a CSS to it, and change the PHP output to use the CSS -- that way, you can have any look you want.

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      • glowlite
        Confirmed User
        • Dec 2005
        • 366

        #4
        Doesn't sound like you know enough to own a web site.

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        • dicknipples
          Formerly known as Lensman
          • May 2014
          • 654

          #5
          DerpPress is PHP nub.

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          • Sunny Day
            Confirmed User
            • Dec 2010
            • 1406

            #6
            Original site

            The original had CSS.

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            • edgeprod
              Permanently Gone
              • Mar 2004
              • 10019

              #7
              Originally posted by Sunny Day
              The original had CSS.
              If the CSS and PHP were done correctly, you would have been able to edit it without an issue. My guess is that you hired based on price, and got a lackluster coder who abandoned you. Happens all the time, sadly. Sounds like the new guy is fucking it up as well.

              Sorry to hear it!

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              • sarettah
                see you later, I'm gone
                • Oct 2002
                • 14297

                #8
                Originally posted by Sunny Day
                I paid a guy to do a web site in PHP ....

                I know have a guy writing the site in WordPress.........

                At some later date when the site is generating revenue I want to go back to PHP. However the new guy knows nothing of PHP. Can PHP do it all? Was the guy I hired not that good at PHP or am I stuck with boring descriptions?
                Originally posted by Sunny Day
                The original had CSS.
                Really? I mean Really?????

                How the hell did you do manage to make those sites for Marion?



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                • blinki bill
                  Confirmed User
                  • Oct 2006
                  • 123

                  #9
                  If the new guy doesn't know php the I don't know what the heck is he doing cause wordpress is php... He is probably just installing a template and plugins that will somehat let you do what you want (something you can do on your own if you know a thing or two about running websites)

                  It seems to me that you don't know enough about websites to hire a coder directly, you need to know some basic stuff about it in order to give proper instructions, be able to choose a coder wisely and know if they do the job as they are supposed to or not

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                  • blackmonsters
                    Making PHP work
                    • Nov 2002
                    • 20963

                    #10
                    The best way to get a good coder is to ask for a programmer.
                    Nobody has a degree in coding.
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                    • Klen
                      • Aug 2006
                      • 32235

                      #11
                      Originally posted by blackmonsters
                      The best way to get a good coder is to ask for a programmer.
                      Nobody has a degree in coding.
                      Actually...i have it

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                      • freecartoonporn
                        Confirmed User
                        • Jan 2012
                        • 7683

                        #12
                        hire good coder . and wp is made of php.
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                        • suesheboy
                          Confirmed User
                          • Nov 2002
                          • 5211

                          #13
                          Originally posted by edgeprod
                          You can add a CSS to it, and change the PHP output to use the CSS -- that way, you can have any look you want.
                          This and this

                          Originally posted by blinki bill
                          If the new guy doesn't know php the I don't know what the heck is he doing cause wordpress is php... He is probably just installing a template and plugins that will somehat let you do what you want (something you can do on your own if you know a thing or two about running websites)

                          It seems to me that you don't know enough about websites to hire a coder directly, you need to know some basic stuff about it in order to give proper instructions, be able to choose a coder wisely and know if they do the job as they are supposed to or not
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                          • michael.kickass
                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                            • Mar 2009
                            • 11039

                            #14
                            I don't like wordpress, but that's just me. Any coder will tell you the best approach in order to change fonts and colors is CSS, anyone telling you differently is clearly not the right person for the job.
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                            • sarettah
                              see you later, I'm gone
                              • Oct 2002
                              • 14297

                              #15
                              Way back when
                              Originally posted by Sunny Day
                              Sally (****** ****) talked Ted into doing a web site for his farm that had a Disc Golf course.
                              Marion charged him $200 for a year's domain & web site.
                              That was last summer. but the site is down. Marion was paying by the month, pocketed the cash instead of buying a year's domain & site.
                              And never paid me for doing the web site.
                              Originally posted by Sunny Day
                              So far the site has taken 2 years to develop. Programming is one problem.
                              The other is just developing the directory, lots of information. However,
                              I don't work on it full-time as I have other things that need attention.
                              This last glitch has been going on since before 2012.

                              My programmer has been paid to date and hasn't charged me lately for the final fix.
                              A reason I hate to drop him. And as I said he's reasonable and lives in the same city, so that's a big plus.
                              I also think one of the reasons he hasn't charged is he likes the niche and believes it will be a long-term money maker for both.

                              I just hate to start over as my budget is draining away quickly.
                              I understand he's working several jobs, looking for a better one and has some ill family members, but I need to get this site up and making money now.

                              Once that's up any running, the goal is to create blogs to generate traffic.
                              7/17/2013
                              Originally posted by Sunny Day
                              I have a main stream domain the guys keep promising to do but seem to stall out on me.

                              Guy 1 set up the site using php but disappeared on me and I can't change anything on the site. Charged me a lot.

                              GF's brother offered to do it for free, then wanted a percentage then said he didn't want to do it.

                              Guy 3 offered to do it for $150 in Word Press as he just retired and it would be a learning experience as he had been doing city government sites and private business would be different.

                              I realize the site has some complicated issues. It's a business directory broken down by areas of a state and then other vendors would be listed by that area.

                              I'm just tired of hearing, "I'm just so busy at the moment I had to put your project on the back burner. Time to find someone who can deliver now at a reasonable price.

                              mail me.. hahatanka [at] ijmdigital [dot] com
                              12/8/2014
                              Originally posted by Sunny Day
                              I have a PHP question.

                              I paid a guy to do a web site in PHP and he got it 1/2 done and disappeared on me.
                              The site was OK, but I couldn't edit anything.
                              On each page there were small pictures with descriptive text next to the picture.
                              The text was 10 point black Arial. There was no way to change color, size or font.
                              Also you couldn't have paragraph breaks. Reminds me of an old database memo field.

                              I know have a guy writing the site in WordPress an assures me I can have all I desire in the text.

                              At some later date when the site is generating revenue I want to go back to PHP.
                              However the new guy knows nothing of PHP.
                              Can PHP do it all?
                              Was the guy I hired not that good at PHP or am I stuck with boring descriptions?

                              Thanks for any answers
                              So. let's see, way back when like 2010 you had already done sites for Sally.

                              Then in 2012, you come on taklking about a site that has been in development for 2 years (so 2010) that you were having issues with regarding programmers, etc.

                              2013, you are talking about the same site, same issues.

                              2014, again, the same thing.

                              You haven't learned what PHP or CSS is in those 4 years? But you have the absolute gall to say something like this about someone else?

                              5/2/2012
                              Originally posted by Sunny Day
                              Biggest is my programmer can't solve one problem to make to make the web site work.

                              I've had an offer for a free web site, but the guy is so Old School he has no clue what SQL is. Still writes in MS Access.
                              Oh, btw, MS Access uses SQL throughout. The most typical way to access an Access database from a site or application would probably be by utilizing SQL pass through. Just thought I would throw that in there.

                              So, how does it feel to drive for 4 years and go absolutely no where?
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                              • sarettah
                                see you later, I'm gone
                                • Oct 2002
                                • 14297

                                #16
                                One more thing there Sunny Gene..

                                The site you have been working so hard to build for 4 years is called CraigsList

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                                • Tekkno
                                  Registered User
                                  • Nov 2014
                                  • 72

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by sarettah
                                  So, how does it feel to drive for 4 years and go absolutely no where?

                                  So true.. there's always two sides to a story..

                                  Some people just don't have the budget for a good developer (that's how coders/programmers are called these days) and end up working with terrible 'coders'.

                                  Other times the clients aren't able to make proper requirements, or keep changing them.. Generating irritation with the developer, causing him to run away

                                  My tips for making your project a succesful one;

                                  - Have a proper budget. 50 USD/hour is way too cheap for a good developer
                                  - Create a functional design, mockup or wireframe.. plenty of tools out there, you don't need to be a tech to do that
                                  - Select your developer not only on technical skills, but also make sure he understands your business and is able to communicate about what he will do for you in a way you understand
                                  - Let him create a technical design from your mockup. Compare the two, discus about it, ask him for suggestions or improvements.. get him involved
                                  - When agreement has been reached approve the designs and don't make any changes
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                                  • sarettah
                                    see you later, I'm gone
                                    • Oct 2002
                                    • 14297

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Tekkno
                                    So true.. there's always two sides to a story..

                                    Some people just don't have the budget for a good developer (that's how coders/programmers are called these days) and end up working with terrible 'coders'.

                                    yadda yadda yadda.
                                    Those are all probably good point however in this case they are really not applicable.

                                    At one point I was going to help the OP. Had several conversations with him back during the whole Sally Rand fiasco. I ended up rescinding the offer. It was very apparent from the start that any project with him was going to be a death march and I don't do death marches.

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                                    • candyflip
                                      Carpe Visio
                                      • Jul 2002
                                      • 43069

                                      #19
                                      I imagine that this post will now sink quickly and disappear, like Sunny Day hopes it will.

                                      Spend you some brain.
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                                      • nico-t
                                        emperor of my world
                                        • Aug 2004
                                        • 29903

                                        #20
                                        Ok, who is Sunny Day? I thought he was Marion a.k.a. Sally Rand the crossdressing freak?

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                                        • candyflip
                                          Carpe Visio
                                          • Jul 2002
                                          • 43069

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by nico-t
                                          Ok, who is Sunny Day? I thought he was Marion a.k.a. Sally Rand the crossdressing freak?

                                          Spend you some brain.
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                                          • directfiesta
                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                            • Oct 2002
                                            • 30135

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by sarettah
                                            Way back when




                                            7/17/2013


                                            12/8/2014


                                            So. let's see, way back when like 2010 you had already done sites for Sally.

                                            Then in 2012, you come on taklking about a site that has been in development for 2 years (so 2010) that you were having issues with regarding programmers, etc.

                                            2013, you are talking about the same site, same issues.

                                            2014, again, the same thing.

                                            You haven't learned what PHP or CSS is in those 4 years? But you have the absolute gall to say something like this about someone else?

                                            5/2/2012


                                            Oh, btw, MS Access uses SQL throughout. The most typical way to access an Access database from a site or application would probably be by utilizing SQL pass through. Just thought I would throw that in there.

                                            So, how does it feel to drive for 4 years and go absolutely no where?

                                            ouch ...



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                                            • hadden
                                              So Fucking Banned
                                              • Aug 2006
                                              • 1440

                                              #23
                                              oh shit she's got the dates and shit

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