Adaptive Bitrate Streaming

[StinkyPink]

Best way? Cheap and effective? Server setup?

Please advise!

[StinkyPink]

Nothin' huh?

[StinkyPink]

Either nobody knows, or they want it kept a secret so they have that "edge"...

There are many solutions but it seems you have to jump through hoops to get a straight answer from any source... just like trying to get your content displayed on all devices and viewports... nearly impossible? No ONE solution? Will Apple streaming work on all browsers? What about microsoft smooth streaming? What gives folks?

[AsianDivaGirlsWebDude]

Try Wowza:



Or maybe Google it...

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=adaptive+bitrate+streaming

Have luck!



ADG

[StinkyPink]

Oh trust me, I have. I have seen many players, I have seen many server setups, I have seen several remote hosted solutions... nothing solid. I am asking about a solid solution, adult friendly, and of what combinations are fellow publishers implementing. What works and what does not. I see this is not something folks want to discuss... but somehow we bitch about politics and morals of other industries.

[AsianDivaGirlsWebDude]

Oh trust me, I have. I have seen many players, I have seen many server setups, I have seen several remote hosted solutions... nothing solid. I am asking about a solid solution, adult friendly, and of what combinations are fellow publishers implementing. What works and what does not. I see this is not something folks want to discuss... but somehow we bitch about politics and morals of other industries.

Sorry for trying to help a little...





ADG

[StinkyPink]

Haha. I will give you that. At least you replied.

[Due]

Haha. I will give you that. At least you replied.

I think wowza is very common.
I'd also look into streaming through a cdn as it can reduce your server load. Reflected.net got a solid cdn solution. .

[brandonstills]

Usually you have to have custom control over the client and the server to do this. That's why we typically only see it in companies like YouTube and Netflix.

[sandman!]

wowza does a good job

[RSD]

is it live or vod?

[RSD]

it isn't rocket science and easy to setup. just depends on your needs. do you have dedicated server?

[mikesouth]

the real promising technology is MPEG DASH problem is its stalled because there are no cross platform players that support it.

It supports all codecs and it does dynamic adaptive streaming over http so you dont need a media server its an encode once and play anywhere type encode as well because its both dynamic and adaptive.

its a great idea that would also help to thwart piracy in that it could only be ripped via frame grabs

at some point it should be very beneficial to this biz...specially when used with H.265

[RSD]

If its just vod, i shouldn't go with wowza, to much overhead and it isn't free!

[StinkyPink]

is it live or vod?

I will likely want to use both if I find the right setup... looking at Kaltura w/red5 server, and others.

it isn't rocket science and easy to setup. just depends on your needs. do you have dedicated server?

It will be setup on a dedicated server likely with an option to serve media from a cdn in near future. I am not purchasing the server until I know exactly what I need. So many options, but not all work with just any server. Suggestions?

the real promising technology is MPEG DASH problem is its stalled because there are no cross platform players that support it.

It supports all codecs and it does dynamic adaptive streaming over http so you dont need a media server its an encode once and play anywhere type encode as well because its both dynamic and adaptive.

its a great idea that would also help to thwart piracy in that it could only be ripped via frame grabs

at some point it should be very beneficial to this biz...specially when used with H.265

I am aware of this, it was obvious when I read what it was that it would work perfectly. Until the cross platform thing turned it into a deal breaker, at least for now. There are cross platform players that seem to support it, but not fully haha. It would be nice to see a standard for all browsers across all devices. I am wondering what other technologies will try to do to stall it for good, or outperform, though imo unlikely at this point.

I am quite surprised at how much I am learning the more I look into it. So many options and nothing "really" works together lol... I mean finding a good player, a good media server solution, and proper server setup to run them All at a good price. Then you get into transcoding and other add-on features. So much going on at once.

[RSD]

Just stick with nginx, it has everything you need ;-) and easy to setup. The trick is to serve for example 3 different qualities of the same video. You than create segments of each video for example every 5 seconds. Then you load up an m3u8 file in for example jwplayer and in this m3u8 file you put the location of the segments for each quality. The jwplayer checks according to bandwidth which quality it should download. This is for vod, for live streaming you have to transcode the incoming stream with ffmpeg or whatever encoder you use and restream it. This causes some delay and needs some big server for high load.

[SZNY]

Wowza supports DASH. Its pretty cool promising stuff and also Netflix is using it.

Here some links:
http://channel9.msdn.com/Events/Build/2013/3-089
http://www.streamroot.io/
http://www-itec.uni-klu.ac.at/dash/?page_id=746

[StinkyPink]

Thanks guys, this is more like it. These are the replies I was looking for, different ideas and concerns for sure. Still open to ALL suggestions. There may be one I don't know that could be better for my needs. I looked into nginx, I was under the impression that it was a more secure faster http server like apache, though I seen 3rd party add-ons that would make some things simpler. JWplayer is nice, but flowplayer seems cheaper in the long run for unlimited domians. I am not sure flowplayer handles m3u8 the way you explain about jwplayer. Decisions lol

[pornguy]

WOWZA does a good job and is the most reasonable cost wise I think. Check with your host and ask them about it.